Rate the Akatsuki (at Akatsuki time, not at Prime,without Zetsu)

[DrProof]

Kakuzu can beat everyone in Akatsuki except Obito, due to his phasing ability.

Don't believe me? Then let's debate.

 

[SonictheHedgehog]

1. Tobi
2. Oro
3. Pein
4. Itachi
5. Deidara
6. Kisame
7. Kakazu
8. Sasori
9. Hidan
10. Konan
11. Zetsu

This, except Hidan is the weakest and Zetsu is actually stronger than he gets credit for (Army and black)

AlsoI think Kisame > Deidara.

I should post my own but Im too lazy so.

 

[Flawž]

Tobi
Pain
Itachi
oro
Kakazu
Kisame
Deidara
konan
sasori
zetsu
Hidan.

None biased.

 

[DimLord Urza]

Kakuzu can beat everyone in Akatsuki except Obito, due to his phasing ability.

Don't believe me? Then let's debate.

Kakuzu could not defeat Itachi or the six paths of pain or Tobi. I believe Kakuzu may not even be able to defeat Kisame.

And he could never defeat Orochimaru. No one can get rid of Orochimaru lol.

 

[DeathandEnvy]

1. Tobi
2. Itachi
3. Pain
4. Konan(only female that i don't see as a complete fool and fodder.)
5. Deidara
6. Kisame
7. Kakazu
8. Sasori
9. Hidan
10.Black Zetsu

 

[DrProof]

Kakuzu could not defeat Itachi or the six paths of pain or Tobi. I believe Kakuzu may not even be able to defeat Kisame.

Kakuzu very well can defeat Itachi, and SPOP. Like I said early do you want to debate this?

 

[tossmidgetsenpai]

1.Tobi
2.Pain
3.Itachi
4.Oro
5.Kisame
6.Kakuzu
7.Konan
8.Sasori
9.Deidara
10.Hidan

 

[SeriousDogg]

No edo tensei please... because at the time Oro was in the Akatsuki I don't think he knew Edo Tensei or mastered it, because against Hiruzen his edo tensei was weak as hell.

 

[DimLord Urza]

Kakuzu very well can defeat Itachi, and SPOP. Like I said early do you want to debate this?

Haha. You use too many phrases and words out of context, but I think I'd be very eager to see you try to convince me.
As far as I'm concerned, Preta path absorbs anything Kakuzu throws not to mention the other paths to keep him trouble. Itachi uses Totsuka blade to defeat him.

Kakuzu is strong.. don't get me wrong. But I place him beneath a few others.

I don't understand how you could factually convince me on a completely biased scenario. All your threads seem to be completely subjective and correspondingly incorrect.

And yes, I'm biased as well here most likely. Each member has the potential to defeat the other given their tools and abilities, but it's completely subjective to state which one would win. It makes no sense since it's entirely biased.

 

[Organis Machinas]

10- hidan/ immortality isn't everything lol
09- konan/ flight above immortality, since hidan can be disabled rather easily.
08- oro/ as far as durability and intelligence, he is farther up. unfortunately he is rather over confident to an extent.
07- kakuzu/ again, durability and his elements place him above here. but he seems slow to me and he is rather stationary it his fighting style.
06- sasori/ intelligence and multiple puppets+ poison is difficult to counter. take away his ability to use puppets, or an effective way to counter them and their poison, and he's useless/
05- deidara/ with his flight capabilities and clay manipulation skill, he is certainly a difficult opponent. arrogance and a short fuse are and was his downfall
04- kisame/ stamina, chakra reserves and durability+ loyalty to the ninja code make him easily one of the strongest characters without a bijuu or kekkai genkai.
03- tobi/ his kumui abilities have proven to be one of the most effective and talked about skills in the whole series. however without the rinnengan, he can't really put up much of an offense.
02-itachi/ his genjutsu is unrivaled, and his entire shinobi skill set is near perfect. his stamina is next to nill, so he is capable of winning almost every one on one fight with anyone. i don't see him being able to overcome nagato and his paths due to their being six and they all possess a doujutsu that surpasses his in some aspects.
01- pein; nagato/ i give it to him for being able to pretty much tackle all aspects of ninja arts without ever putting himself in danger. he has absolutely no mobility, but he doesn't need to. his six paths cover ninjutsu, taijutsu, summoning, chakra/soul absorption, mecha weapons, and revival. they have the best observation technique within any battle and the best coordinated attacks. if nagato is left uncovered, his paths are essentially immortal.

 

[AnimeKingXD]

Nagato
Orochimaru
Obito
Itachi
Sasori
Kisame
Deidara
Kakuzu
Konan
Hidan

 

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Kakuzu very well can defeat Itachi, and SPOP. Like I said early do you want to debate this?

I'm down, if you are. I'll take you up on the SPOP vs Kakuzu?

 

[Flawž]

Nagato
Orochimaru
Obito
Itachi
Sasori
Kisame
Deidara
Kakuzu
Konan
Hidan

Obito beats nagato and itachi. They can't even touch him.

 

[DrProof]

Haha. You use too many phrases and words out of context, but I think I'd be very eager to see you try to convince me.
As far as I'm concerned, Preta path absorbs anything Kakuzu throws not to mention the other paths to keep him trouble. Itachi uses Totsuka blade to defeat him.

Kakuzu is strong.. don't get me wrong. But I place him beneath a few others.

I don't understand how you could factually convince me on a completely biased scenario. All your threads seem to be completely subjective and correspondingly incorrect.

And yes, I'm biased as well here most likely. Each member has the potential to defeat the other given their tools and abilities, but it's completely subjective to state which one would win. It makes no sense since it's entirely biased.

How do theories seem to be incorrect? When they are simply opinions? Hm.. Also, when have I used a context or word out of place in this conversation? Are you thinking about what you say when you say it? Anyhow, like I stated earlier we can debate. A "Totsuka to the face" phrase is incredibly simplistic.

 

[Zexion~]

Wow kakuzu is soo underrated here

1.Tobi
2.Pain
3.Itachi
4.Kakuzu/kisame ( i give edge to kakuzu due to intelligence)
5.kisane/kakuzu
6.Deidara
7.Sasori
8.Konan
9.Zetsu
10.Hidan

 

[DimLord Urza]

How do theories seem to be incorrect? When they are simply opinions? Hm.. Also, when have I used a context or word out of place in this conversation? Are you thinking about what you say when you say it? Anyhow, like I stated earlier we can debate. A "Totsuka to the face" phrase is incredibly simplistic.

I wasn't calling the theories incorrect, but the method in which you systematically analyze different abilities and attacks are far-fetched and biased. I also didn't say you used a word out of context in our conversation, I was referring to your popular threads.

I do so happen to agree that a Totsuka to the face is simplistic. But you can't convince me that Kakuzu is stronger on a subjective bias. If you said Kakuzu has the potential to defeat so and so, I would completely agree. Just like Itachi, Kisame, and pretty much everyone else has the potential to defeat anyone.

For god sake, Konohamaru could defeat Itachi given specific circumstances. Even if you construct a detailed thread, you'll most likely include circumstances or theoretical ideas that hold no barring in the Narutoverse.

You cannot say for certain that Kakuzu can defeat anyone, because it's completely theoretical and unreliable.

I put Kakuzu below others because I'm biased, just like everyone else, including you.

 

[DrProof]

I wasn't calling the theories incorrect, but the method in which you systematically analyze different abilities and attacks are far-fetched and biased. I also didn't say you used a word out of context in our conversation, I was referring to your popular threads.

I do so happen to agree that a Totsuka to the face is simplistic. But you can't convince me that Kakuzu is stronger on a subjective bias. If you said, Kakuzu has the potential to defeat so and so, I would completely agree. Just like Itachi, Kisame, and pretty much everyone else has the potential to defeat anyone.

For god sake, Konohamaru could defeat Itachi given specific circumstances. Even if you construct a detailed thread, you'll most likely include circumstances or theoretical ideas that hold no barring in the Narutoverse.

You cannot say for certain that Kakuzu can defeat anyone, because it's completely theoretical and unreliable.

I put Kakuzu below others because I'm biased, just like everyone else, including you.

I haven't done any anaylzationing with techniques anyhow, so how exactly have I done something wrong, when I haven't performed the said action? :| Anyhow, I'm not biased I see, and exploit a characters abilities. Don't go labeling me, and other people biased off your own speculations.

 

[DimLord Urza]

I haven't done any anaylzationing with techniques anyhow, so how exactly have I done something wrong, when I haven't performed the said action? :| Anyhow, I'm not biased I see, and exploit a characters abilities. Don't go labeling me, and other people biased off your own speculations.

What are you talking about? You barely analyzed Shiki Fujjin, which is a technique, along with Susanoo, which is a technique. Again, the outcome of all those crazy ideas are completely biased since we will never see it actually happen and we are the ones who speculate.
You analyze techniques all the time, I've seen your threads. I don't know how many instances I can pull out, but if you want me to, I will personally find at least twenty and link them if you want
I don't have a grudge with you, I'm just saying that you're biased and so am I and everyone else when it comes to Naruto: A fictional TV show.