[Discussion] homosexuality

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

*points to above post*

So how do you view slavery, and beating your slaves?


As for the rest of the post, by that logic single parents should have their children taken from them because they aren't getting the proper care that a mother and father could provide. There are millions of children throughout the world who don't have any parents, only have one parent or have two abusive and neglectful parents. Any one of them would give anything to have the love and care of two parents, regardless of their gender or sexual orientation.

You speak as if you know what the children are thinking of. You are partially right. There are millions of children who suffer constantly regardless of having parents or none, to dying because they didn't have food. Do not speak for those who have not spoken. You are simply trying to justify what is wrong. I didn't mention this in my last post about the slavery thing. I do believe that no man should serve another, however, think of it as a job. We work for the boss and than we get paid. We just turned "slavery" into a job where instead of being directly fed, we were given the money to go out and pay for food.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Oh come on, slavery isn't being represented that way at all. If it were, why would you be beating your slave? It says its okay to beat someone, and as long as they don't die for a couple of days afterwards its fine.

I do not know because I am not a slave owner nor am I a slave. Neither are you. You need to quit putting your thoughts and words into other people who have actually experienced these hardships. You do not understand the text as a whole, you are only looking at the part where the slaves are being beaten. What if one of the slaves tried to escape from their work when their agreement wasn't fulfilled, what if the slave did not work on the day he was suppose to work, what if the slave chose to commit a sin. Than maybe he did deserve to be beaten, but not be killed. Think outside the box my friend

 

[Typhon]

You speak as if you know what the children are thinking of. You are partially right. There are millions of children who suffer constantly regardless of having parents or none, to dying because they didn't have food. Do not speak for those who have not spoken. You are simply trying to justify what is wrong. I didn't mention this in my last post about the slavery thing. I do believe that no man should serve another, however, think of it as a job. We work for the boss and than we get paid. We just turned "slavery" into a job where instead of being directly fed, we were given the money to go out and pay for food.

Slavery is the equivalent to a job? I must have forgotten that last time I got whipped for drinking some water instead of doing manual labor all day long in the blazing heat. Or that time my wife got taken from me and sold to another slave owner and I never saw her again.

Okay, so you believe no man should serve another despite it being said to be okay in the Bible. So why is the Bible wrong on this issue, but not Homosexuality?

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Slavery is the equivalent to a job? I must have forgotten that last time I got whipped for drinking some water instead of doing manual labor all day long in the blazing heat. Or that time my wife got taken from me and sold to another slave owner and I never saw her again.

Okay, so you believe no man should serve another despite it being said to be okay in the Bible. So why is the Bible wrong on this issue, but not Homosexuality?

To answer your question so that you will understand it.

I was using the job reference as a metaphor, which means to not be taken seriously, though still grasps the same meaning. HAHA and those examples you used, tell me, what was it like 2000 years ago because apparently you know how it was back than. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough. When people work they are employees, "slaves" when people work for the employer/manger "slave owner" Now use your brain on this one, when a man "works" for another man he is given compensation for his work. Please do not compare slavery from the distant past to the present past. You misunderstood lol. Yes you are right I do not believe another man should own another man. The bible does not say that I HAVE to have a slave. Duh and as for your homosexual reference the Bible is not wrong at all. In fact it tells the truth and rules of what humans did in the past.

 

[Typhon]

To answer your question so that you will understand it.

I was using the job reference as a metaphor, which means to not be taken seriously, though still grasps the same meaning. HAHA and those examples you used, tell me, what was it like 2000 years ago because apparently you know how it was back than. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough. When people work they are employees, "slaves" when people work for the employer/manger "slave owner" Now use your brain on this one, when a man "works" for another man he is given compensation for his work. Please do not compare slavery from the distant past to the present past. You misunderstood lol. and as for your homosexual reference the Bible is not wrong at all. In fact it tells the truth and rules of what humans did in the past.

You can't be that ignorant of the past can you? You make it sound as though people walked up to their slave owner, shook their hand and said "Lets get to work!".

The treatment of slaves is well documented, whether it be 200 years ago, 2000 years ago, or further. People recorded this stuff in known languages. Historians have read these documents, studied the artifacts, paintings, murals, artwork, records, novels, etc. All of this stuff tells us the story of the past, and your idea of slavery is historically, factually wrong.

Here, pick your time period:

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Tell me what slavery was like.

Yes you are right I do not believe another man should own another man. The bible does not say that I HAVE to have a slave. Duh

You didn't say you personally wouldn't own a slave. You said that you, and I quote "I do not believe another man should own another man". The Bible says its fine for a man to own another man. You disagree with the bible. You, in your own words, believe something the bible said is fine, is in fact wrong.

Don't try to backpedal now, follow me down this path.

So I'll ask again, why is the bible wrong on owning another man, but right on homosexuality?

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

You can't be that ignorant of the past can you? You make it sound as though people walked up to their slave owner, shook their hand and said "Lets get to work!".

MINE: You obviously fail to realize the metaphor so I'll just let you think what you want. Have fun being ignorant

The treatment of slaves is well documented, whether it be 200 years ago, 2000 years ago, or further. People recorded this stuff in known languages. Historians have read these documents, studied the artifacts, paintings, murals, artwork, records, novels, etc. All of this stuff tells us the story of the past, and your idea of slavery is historically, factually wrong.

MINE: I don't remember saying that they said "Good day to work on the farm bob, I'm so happy to be your slave" did I? If I did I do apologize. Please do not try to insult my intelligence by saying that we do not have certain facts about slavery. I know that. Just like not every male and female were followers of God. You cannot judge a certain group, you have to judge everyone as a whole.

Here, pick your time period:

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Tell me what slavery was like.

MINE: ... Just by posting a wiki html I should literally go through this screen and slap you in the face. Here are a few rules you should know about the internet. 1. Do no always trust what the internet says unless it is a reliable source. An example is having .gov on the end of the site. It is a governmental site so (more or less depending on your trust of the government) you can trust it more to an extent. 2. WIKIPEDIA is not a reliable source. I could go and say that the definition of slavery is a dum dum who doesn't know that wikipedia is a non reliable source and it would save it on the wiki page. 3. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Somethings you need to see with your own eyes in order to discover the truth.

You didn't say you personally wouldn't own a slave. You said that you, and I quote "I do not believe another man should own another man". The Bible says its fine for a man to own another man. You disagree with the bible. You, in your own words, believe something the bible said is fine, is in fact wrong.

MINE: Your either the biggest moron, or you are just trying to argue a senseless argument. Could be both, but I digress. lol
You quote me and than have the stupidity to say, once again putting words in my mouth, that I disagree with the Bible. When I said that quote I thought that it was understood that I did not believe another man should be "owned". Apparently not on account of you posting nonsense.

Don't try to backpedal now, follow me down this path.

MINE: Your the one backpedalling. I'm merely standing in the way, telling you to grow up and shut up.

So I'll ask again, why is the bible wrong on owning another man, but right on homosexuality?

So I'll ask again, when did I agree that the bible is wrong. Your incompetence to read and understand is worse than some of these others that have posted. The Bible is not wrong. The Bible is the word of God. Nothing in it is wrong. It is simply misunderstood by Neanderthals

PS I thought by remarking on your post by your quotes would separate them, lol my bad. I put the MINE: where I answered your comments.

 

[Typhon]

MINE: You obviously fail to realize the metaphor so I'll just let you think what you want. Have fun being ignorant

I'm not sure you know what a metaphor is, but okay. I suppose I'll remain ignorant on how a job can be used as a metaphor for slavery.

MINE: I don't remember saying that they said "Good day to work on the farm bob, I'm so happy to be your slave" did I? If I did I do apologize. Please do not try to insult my intelligence by saying that we do not have certain facts about slavery. I know that. Just like not every male and female were followers of God. You cannot judge a certain group, you have to judge everyone as a whole.

You were trying to justify slavery by saying it wasn't as bad in ancient times as it was in the Americas. I exaggerated your claim to show you how ridiculous it was.

MINE: ... Just by posting a wiki html I should literally go through this screen and slap you in the face. Here are a few rules you should know about the internet. 1. Do no always trust what the internet says unless it is a reliable source. An example is having .gov on the end of the site. It is a governmental site so (more or less depending on your trust of the government) you can trust it more to an extent. 2. WIKIPEDIA is not a reliable source. I could go and say that the definition of slavery is a dum dum who doesn't know that wikipedia is a non reliable source and it would save it on the wiki page. 3. Don't believe everything you read on the internet. Somethings you need to see with your own eyes in order to discover the truth.

You can bury your head in the sand all you want, but facts are facts my friend. Disprove the claims on the wiki page if they're so inaccurate.

MINE: Your either the biggest moron, or you are just trying to argue a senseless argument. Could be both, but I digress. lol
You quote me and than have the stupidity to say, once again putting words in my mouth, that I disagree with the Bible. When I said that quote I thought that it was understood that I did not believe another man should be "owned". Apparently not on account of you posting nonsense.

So I'll ask again, when did I agree that the bible is wrong. Your incompetence to read and understand is worse than some of these others that have posted. The Bible is not wrong. The Bible is the word of God. Nothing in it is wrong. It is simply misunderstood by Neanderthals

PS I thought by remarking on your post by your quotes would separate them, lol my bad. I put the MINE: where I answered your comments.

You: I do not believe another man should own another man.

Bible: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Those things I bolded mean the same thing.

You don't believe a man should own another man, the bible does.

According to the English language, you disagree with the Bible.

You can hurl insults at me all day long, but you typed the words not me.

MINE: Your the one backpedalling. I'm merely standing in the way, telling you to grow up and shut up.

Oh, the irony.

 

[Alternative]

I'm confused, what does sexuality and slavery have to do with each other?

Also it's just all overrated, I'd rather just be with my bed, it's always forgiving when I leave it. <3

 

[Typhon]

I'm confused, what does sexuality and slavery have to do with each other?

Also it's just all overrated, I'd rather just be with my bed, it's always forgiving when I leave it. <3

Nothing.

I'm just trying to show him that just because the bible says something it doesn't make it right.

And I'm not sure about that, my bed is mean some times and gives me a sore neck when I leave.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

I'm not sure you know what a metaphor is, but okay. I suppose I'll remain ignorant on how a job can be used as a metaphor for slavery.



You were trying to justify slavery by saying it wasn't as bad in ancient times as it was in the Americas. I exaggerated your claim to show you how ridiculous it was.



You can bury your head in the sand all you want, but facts are facts my friend. Disprove the claims on the wiki page if they're so inaccurate.





You: I do not believe another man should own another man.

Bible: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Those things I bolded mean the same thing.

You don't believe a man should own another man, the bible does.

According to the English language, you disagree with the Bible.

You can hurl insults at me all day long, but you typed the words not me.



Oh, the irony.

..... 4 things.

1. A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object. Now you know the definition dum dum.

2. It wasn't a ridiculous claim. Idiots who think they know everything yet fail to understand simple things really do tick me off at how far society has fallen. Do you know how long 2000 years is. Sure you do, I hope you do, it is just recently when technology has boomed. Go learn your history. You will learn many things that back than were impressive for their time yet are now so simple in the future that we (we as in society) don't even recognize because it isn't that important. Example - Ancient egyptians invented the pulley and lever system. You fail to realize just how "futarized" (I know it's not a real word, but for the sake of arguing, darn it I'm using it anyway) we are. T.V. really does poison the mind because it turns fantasy into "oh well, we can do that" Example- Light speed - star trek (yes I'm a fan of star trek but only because my dad got me into the series from when he was a kid lol... Beam me up Scottie). Quit living your fantasy land, open your eyes, and quit arguing when you do not have facts to back up your proof.

3. I'm only insulting because you are continuously claiming that I said one thing when I did not. Besides, you are doing it to yourself for the way you are replying. If instead you do not insult me, I shall not insult you. On account of you claiming that you can base your facts on Wiki, which is a bunch of crap put together to entertain teachers who then fail students on history papers lol, I no need to discuss with such a close minded idiot. At least on this subject.

4. On your second to last comment, where you gave me a verse and than claimed that the bold was the same meaning. Please tell the Thesaurus Dictionary what the true meaning means. For we have all been duped by false meanings lol. Why don't you reread the verse starting with YOU MAY and than retell me what you just said. It is telling that YOU MAY buy slaves, YOU MAY buy slaves from different clans, lands, etc. Once again you try to turn the truth. You disgust me for trying to use the Bible verses in a way to turn toward sin. If you are a Christian, you better look back and repent for trying to justify sin. I pray that God has mercy on you.

PS you say "oh the irony". I say, lend an open ear to hear the words that need to be spoken. Do not close your heart just because you feel like what you believe is right and true. You must always keep an open mind, yet never waver from the path of righteousness. The road to heaven is short and narrow. We can only hope that on Judgement day, we have done our best to live for Christ and minister to others so that they too will know how to find Christ on that straight and narrow path.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

I'm confused, what does sexuality and slavery have to do with each other?

Also it's just all overrated, I'd rather just be with my bed, it's always forgiving when I leave it. <3

Good question without an answer. If you don't stand and live for what you believe in, than you truly haven't lived.

Nothing.

I'm just trying to show him that just because the bible says something it doesn't make it right.

And I'm not sure about that, my bed is mean some times and gives me a sore neck when I leave.

By that first line I assume you aren't a believer in Christ. What you just said is like saying "just because it's a rule, doesn't mean we have to listen to it".

 

[Alternative]

Good question without an answer. If you don't stand and live for what you believe in, than you truly haven't lived.



By that first line I assume you aren't a believer in Christ. What you just said is like saying "just because it's a rule, doesn't mean we have to listen to it".

I believe in the flying spaghetti monster, and that one day around the end of December Oprah will spend all her riches on giving everyone keys to a new car.

And sure it's exactly like that. In a lot of the world marijuana is still illegal, yet many people still smoke it. Pirating movies is illegal, yet people still download them. The list can go on for a long time, but yes it's just like that. Just because the bible said something, doesn't necessarily make it right/true.

Doesn't the whole christianity thing believe in Lent as well? Pretty sure you're not going to partake in that now.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

I believe in the flying spaghetti monster, and that one day around the end of December Oprah will spend all her riches on giving everyone keys to a new car.

And sure it's exactly like that. In a lot of the world marijuana is still illegal, yet many people still smoke it. Pirating movies is illegal, yet people still download them. The list can go on for a long time, but yes it's just like that. Just because the bible said something, doesn't necessarily make it right/true.

Doesn't the whole christianity thing believe in Lent as well? Pretty sure you're not going to partake in that now.

lol on the first part. And sad but true on the second. But just because people think they are above the law, or perhaps maybe think that the rules do not apply to them, does not make it in the right. Quite the opposite, Whatever the bible says, it should be done so. However, it should not be misinterpreted otherwise you could get into debates like I'm having with typhon lol. As for the Lent thing, I'm not so sure about that for christians, but the catholics I know believe in Lent. I'll have to look into that though, thank you

 

[Typhon]

1. A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object. Now you know the definition dum dum.

Wait....where have I seen this before....

A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes a subject by asserting that it is, on some point of comparison, the same as another otherwise unrelated object.

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Kind of unfair that you can use wikipedia and I can't. >.>

2. It wasn't a ridiculous claim. Idiots who think they know everything yet fail to understand simple things really do tick me off at how far society has fallen. Do you know how long 2000 years is. Sure you do, I hope you do, it is just recently when technology has boomed. Go learn your history. You will learn many things that back than were impressive for their time yet are now so simple in the future that we (we as in society) don't even recognize because it isn't that important. Example - Ancient egyptians invented the pulley and lever system. You fail to realize just how "futarized" (I know it's not a real word, but for the sake of arguing, darn it I'm using it anyway) we are. T.V. really does poison the mind because it turns fantasy into "oh well, we can do that" Example- Light speed - star trek (yes I'm a fan of star trek but only because my dad got me into the series from when he was a kid lol... Beam me up Scottie). Quit living your fantasy land, open your eyes, and quit arguing when you do not have facts to back up your proof.

Still waiting on your proof that slavery wasn't so bad 2,000 years ago. Not sure what pulley systems in Egypt and Star Trek has to do with that one.

3. I'm only insulting because you are continuously claiming that I said one thing when I did not. Besides, you are doing it to yourself for the way you are replying. If instead you do not insult me, I shall not insult you.

I'm not saying anything for you. I simply quoted your words and pointed out what they meant in English.

On account of you claiming that you can base your facts on Wiki, which is a bunch of crap put together to entertain teacher who then fail students on history papers lol, I no need to discuss with such a close minded idiot. At least on this subject.

Nope, nothing there to refute any of the claims on the wiki page. One more shot?

4. On your second to last comment, where you gave me a verse and than claimed that the bold was the same meaning. Please tell the Thesaurus Dictionary what the true meaning means. For we have all been duped by false meanings lol.

What's the point of this discussion if you're going to sit there and tell me with a straight face that "owning" someone is not the same as having someone as your "property".

Why don't you reread the verse starting with YOU MAY and than retell me what you just said. It is telling that YOU MAY buy slaves, YOU MAY buy slaves from different clans, lands, etc. Once again you try to turn the truth. You disgust me for trying to use the Bible verses in a way to turn toward sin. If you are a Christian, you better look back and repent for trying to justify sin. I pray that God has mercy on you.

Saying that you may own a slave is different than saying owning a slave is okay? How?

PS you say "oh the irony". I say, lend an open ear to hear the words that need to be spoken. Do not close your heart just because you feel like what you believe is right and true. You must always keep an open mind, yet never waver from the path of righteousness. The road to heaven is short and narrow. We can only hope that on Judgement day, we have done our best to live for Christ and minister to others so that they too will know how to find Christ on that straight and narrow path.

The irony of your comment was that you told me to shut up, which is a childish comment, and then told me to grow up. Twas an ironic sentence.

You refuse to entertain the idea that the bible could be wrong. How is that always keeping an open mind?

 

[Alternative]

lol on the first part. And sad but true on the second. But just because people think they are above the law, or perhaps maybe think that the rules do not apply to them, does not make it in the right. Quite the opposite, Whatever the bible says, it should be done so. However, it should not be misinterpreted otherwise you could get into debates like I'm having with typhon lol. As for the Lent thing, I'm not so sure about that for christians, but the catholics I know believe in Lent. I'll have to look into that though, thank you

Now it just sounds like you're trying to push your beliefs onto those who aren't christian. You have to do what's said in the bible because it's God's word? What about other religions and gods? What if I decide I want to believe in the god of bacon, so I still have to follow your god?

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Wait....where have I seen this before....

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Kind of unfair that you can use wikipedia and I can't. >.>



Still waiting on your proof that slavery wasn't so bad 2,000 years ago. Not sure what pulley systems in Egypt and Star Trek has to do with that one.



I'm not saying anything for you. I simply quoted your words and pointed out what they meant in English.



Nope, nothing there to refute any of the claims on the wiki page. One more shot?



What's the point of this discussion if you're going to sit there and tell me with a straight face that "owning" someone is not the same as having someone as your "property".



Saying that you may own a slave is different than saying owning a slave is okay? How?



The irony of your comment was that you told me to shut up, which is a childish comment, and then told me to grow up. Twas an ironic sentence.

You refuse to entertain the idea that the bible could be wrong. How is that always keeping an open mind?

1. Truthfully I did use wiki's definition because it sounded better than this. But thank you detective for looking it up yourself. lol

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2. You don't have proof for me. You just have a bunch of ideas on a page. That's all Wiki is. A site where anyone can post anything about anything. I have said in the posts above that I don't doubt that there was "bad" slavery. I tried stating that some people probably did treat their slaves bad aka the egyptians or romans. What I am saying was that slavery was intentionally used to pay a debt or a service. Get some real proof before trying to ask me to debate. I used those examples as a way for your petty little brain to understand what I meant. Yet even now you cannot understand so I will make it simpler. Things in the past are irrelevant to things in the future. Past have horse Future have car... are you catching on now lol

3. You insulted my intelligence on the last page dumb dumb, look for yourself.

4. Owning something is someone's property, but that isn't all that you put in bold text. Since when did slavery mean to own a life. When someone "sold" their life to slavery, they could be bought or sold. Simple as that. Does not make the human being property. Just his contract. Do you see what I'm talking about, I can dumb it down for you if you like.

5. Aren't you a little bum. Now your comparing people to property. You are a sad kid. Listen, in ancient times people would "sell" their lives to people in order to have food and a place to sleep. That does not make them their property. It is a contract. A form of contract where they uphold their end of the bargain for working for them, in order to be provided food. In later times, this changed to where instead of being treated with fairness, the slaves were looked down upon like the Egyptians. There have always been bad slave owners just like there is always good. Not everyone goes to heaven and instead end up in hell. Just because what they think is right doesn't mean that it is. You yourself have to judge and determine whether or not what they say is true. But that all depends on your concept of reality and your ability to determine the "reality" around you.

6. Your not making sense. You tried combining two different questions with two different answers but wanted the same answer. To answer your questions. You may own a slave means that it is okay to own a slave it is not against the bible. However, we are talking about the old testament here. You might want to catch up on the new testament as well before posting the negative's of slavery. To sum it up for you. It means that you may buy or sell slaves. No where does it say you HAVE to have a slave. Trying making a little more sense for me please.

7. Telling someone to shut up is not a childish comment. In fact I was telling you to shut up so that you do not make yourself look like a bigger moron than you already have lol. Seriously though, I was telling you shut up as in do not speak words of which you do not know are true or not for it is better to keep your mouth shut than to ramble about false prepossessions.

8. Because it is what I believe. Everyone has an opinion. Mine is that the Bible is true and the law that we should all follow. I keep an open mind by listening and trying to understand why you think the way you think. By what actions or words did you take to heart in order to form certain opinions about such things. Before I judge someone, I get to know them. In fact, just by arguing with you I can deduce that you are a kid who has not matured. Instead of acting like an adult you choose to retaliate by my posts in order to affirm your opinion. You cannot stand it when you are wrong, yet wonder if what you believe is right or not. Instead of being open minded you close your heart and keep everything in and try ascertain yourself as a know it all in order to gain some prestige/respect from fellow members on this base. It's none of my business, but in reality kids do not have the authority to question those that know better for it is the adults who know what the world truly is all about and until you grow up and face reality head on, you will never move on past your conflicts or emotional barriers. So do not talk about being ironic for what is really ironic is the way that you live.

Now it just sounds like you're trying to push your beliefs onto those who aren't christian. You have to do what's said in the bible because it's God's word? What about other religions and gods? What if I decide I want to believe in the god of bacon, so I still have to follow your god?

Believe me, I am not pushing anything on anyone. yes I do. What about them. You can choose to believe in whatever you want to believe, the choice is up to you alone. Only you can choose which one to believe in just like you are the only one to control your own destiny. Please do not make fun of the way I believe in God. It is those that make fun of others beliefs without knowing all the facts that cause us to live in a vicious circle of hatred that never ends because people cannot accept the outcast... Am I wrong? Do you understand what I meant by that? If this world was fair and easy than there would only be one set of rules for everyone to follow and no one would question them for they are righteous and cannot be broken. Instead we struggle daily with challenges that overwhelm even the strongest. Just like Rocky Balboa said, "no one is going to hit harder than life", which is why we must find those who will back us up, who will pick us back up to continue fighting.

This is probably a longer answer than you wanted but when I start I tend to add a few things in here and there. I probably made some errors along with it but I am kinda tired. On that note, I'm gonna get off for the night and I'll check back tomorrow. God bless.

 

[Anorien16]

1. you asked me to post my posts again. I answered why I was not.

2. You quite well remember? Good for you. I don't know and don't care what you posted about adoption, it was probably worthless information at the topic at hand.

2/3 The following quotes from these books and teachings are not assigned therefore it is impossible to deduce which one came from which. Plus, they have nothing to do with homosexuality. Find me quotes about this certain topic or don't waste my time.

3. To your first example about Budha, "he" states not to blindly believe him. Than it goes on about not believing anyone or anything.

Example number 2. It says to find out what is true and what is real. Everyones perception of reality is different compared to what each person experiences in their life. Your reality might be fantasy to another individual. Vice Versa. This is just a unanswered statement meaning that anyone can view this however they want. It is not a rule nor a guide to how we should live.

Example number 3. I don't know if you wrote this one or if you didn't, where you got it from. Whoever wrote it I feel sorry for, for they are arrogant to say that if they do not "think properly" than they are in the wrong. Who's to say the one who said this quote was in the wrong.

Example 4. AND WHY DO YOU THINK THEY DISLIKED IT DUM DUM... Duh. They didn't make any rules banning it because it hadn't become a big issue.

Example 5. Why not go on ahead and read before and after this statement and than state this quote again and tell me they do not contradict each other. Good try to pull a fast one though.

PS You didn't have a PS so there was no need to post a PPS

PPS It's good to know that. Now I know for sure that your an idiot.

PPPS Go back to english class and learn your adjective uses. If you have time to dislike my english use, maybe you should spend that time getting more facts instead of belittling my writing style. Yes, while you may reply to every thread, you don't always post the smartest posts, hence why we are still debating lol.

PPPPS. Finish high school with at least an A, doesn't have to be an A+, but at least I'll know you've learned something instead of spending it on a website all day :

PPPPPS. If it's not too much trouble, what is it that you believe in. You and everyone else know what I believe in, but you on the other hand are questioning my beliefs yet you fail to state your own.

1. U dont say?

2. Maybe Yes but it also may be was better than your arguments ever will be.....

3. Well You can search the net for teachings of Buddha or the Wiccan Rede along with some other keywords and then internet may help you out there..... also these teaching are regarding how one should live their life, since loving someone regardless of gender is part of life it will be considered a valid argument.

Eg 1 and 2: If u have slight comprehension power u would realize that those two sentences go together and they mean: Dont believe everything everyone say, first listen, then understand and then find out the truth using both your heart and mind . . . . . a nice teaching.

Eg 3: Yes I came to that conclusion as Buddha prescribed . . . . So u say loving someone is wrong?

Eg 4: They disliked foreigners, certain animals and few other things too and only because of people say about them ...... there were some carvings of homosexual couples in some Temples and there was famous a Gay Chinese Emperor along with many other notable people who were not criticized for that reason , so I dont think there was a truly a negative lash back at them....

Eg 5: They are from two totally school of thought so obviously they gonna be a little conflicting and that why Buddha's teaching comes into place . . . . kudos for not noticing dum dum.

PS My mistake, sorry .... u see I m not as great as u think.

PPS Well its not smart to call people names in forum that discourages it . . . . while I can be quite tolerant, please dont feel free....

PPPS Actually I was at loss of what adjective to use that why I said that..... Anyway temper temper, Wrath is Satan's tool u know ( Well If I cited u an what lets say Yudhistir said about negative consequences of wrath u wont believe me, so I had to use a statement a Christian once used ).... Well I dont post the most smartest because I m not the smartest dum dum, I like to learn from people but I am not easily influenced . . . .

PPPPS Well I dont like to brag but I had an average 90% marks in High school . . . . but I m not sure how much it is worth.

PPPPPS Well I stated my belief in bits and pieces: 'I dont think homosexuality is wrong because someone is not wrong to love someone regardless of anything' . . . . . Thats what I believe in . . . . . If your asking for what religion I believe in let me say this: I was born in a Hindu family, studied for 5 years in a secular school and 8 years in a Christian one (Yes I did prayers every morning and all and went for a short sermon every Friday for 2 years), had many Muslim and a few Shikh friends, studied a little philosophy from one of my teacher who was an Atheist and finally I studied a fair few things about Gautam Buddha..... so I will let U figure out what my religion is . . . .

 

[Typhon]

You may own a slave means that it is okay to own a slave it is not against the bible.

Yes you are right I do not believe another man should own another man.

Those two statements are in disagreement. You may be in denial about it, but you do in fact disagree with a part of the bible.

But by all means, believe what you want to believe. No point in continuing if you can't admit having someone as your property, as your possession, is the same as owning them.

And yes, telling someone to shut up is a childish way to act. Arguing that it isn't, is even more childish.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

1. U dont say?

2. Maybe Yes but it also may be was better than your arguments ever will be.....

3. Well You can search the net for teachings of Buddha or the Wiccan Rede along with some other keywords and then internet may help you out there..... also these teaching are regarding how one should live their life, since loving someone regardless of gender is part of life it will be considered a valid argument.

Eg 1 and 2: If u have slight comprehension power u would realize that those two sentences go together and they mean: Dont believe everything everyone say, first listen, then understand and then find out the truth using both your heart and mind . . . . . a nice teaching.

Eg 3: Yes I came to that conclusion as Buddha prescribed . . . . So u say loving someone is wrong?

Eg 4: They disliked foreigners, certain animals and few other things too and only because of people say about them ...... there were some carvings of homosexual couples in some Temples and there was famous a Gay Chinese Emperor along with many other notable people who were not criticized for that reason , so I dont think there was a truly a negative lash back at them....

Eg 5: They are from two totally school of thought so obviously they gonna be a little conflicting and that why Buddha's teaching comes into place . . . . kudos for not noticing dum dum.

PS My mistake, sorry .... u see I m not as great as u think.

PPS Well its not smart to call people names in forum that discourages it . . . . while I can be quite tolerant, please dont feel free....

PPPS Actually I was at loss of what adjective to use that why I said that..... Anyway temper temper, Wrath is Satan's tool u know ( Well If I cited u an what lets say Yudhistir said about negative consequences of wrath u wont believe me, so I had to use a statement a Christian once used ).... Well I dont post the most smartest because I m not the smartest dum dum, I like to learn from people but I am not easily influenced . . . .

PPPPS Well I dont like to brag but I had an average 90% marks in High school . . . . but I m not sure how much it is worth.

PPPPPS Well I stated my belief in bits and pieces: 'I dont think homosexuality is wrong because someone is not wrong to love someone regardless of anything' . . . . . Thats what I believe in . . . . . If your asking for what religion I believe in let me say this: I was born in a Hindu family, studied for 5 years in a secular school and 8 years in a Christian one (Yes I did prayers every morning and all and went for a short sermon every Friday for 2 years), had many Muslim and a few Shikh friends, studied a little philosophy from one of my teacher who was an Atheist and finally I studied a fair few things about Gautam Buddha..... so I will let U figure out what my religion is . . . .

So now let me wrap everything up because you wanted to argue. You disagree on the topic of homosexuality but agree on some things. You have studied so many religions that you probably believe some of all of those religion preaches. Nothing wrong with that. What is wrong is that you are in the undecided category of religion. You have read up on so much that you pick and choose what you want to believe in each category. Telling me to choose your religion is not something to joke around. Depending on what you believe in it is quite serious. All of your points that you made in the last post could be debatable; however, I will not keep replying to nonsense. You claim that my arguments are invalid, you claim that I am ignorant, you claim that I am not tolerant of others. These claims are like saying that the sky isn't blue or the grass isn't green. You kept saying that you weren't great or smart. Why? Everyone makes mistakes, so there is no reason to keep referring to yourself as being great. I did not need to know what you actually made in high school nor do I care. You said you stated your beliefs in bits and pieces, how is that going to help anyone including yourself know what it is that you believe in. It's like you get a sick thrill talking in riddles and you want everyone to think that your like a puzzle. By "claiming" you are not, you simply are hopeful wishing that you are. If you understand all that you claim to know, you should figure out which religion you are in the first place. Do not pick and choose what you like and don't like. You have your opinions, I have mine. Please do not post again.

Those two statements are in disagreement. You may be in denial about it, but you do in fact disagree with a part of the bible.

But by all means, believe what you want to believe. No point in continuing if you can't admit having someone as your property, as your possession, is the same as owning them.

And yes, telling someone to shut up is a childish way to act. Arguing that it isn't, is even more childish.

On account of you not replying back to anything else other than those two sentences, I will elaborate for you what the meaning is knowing that I have won the debate on the account that you have given up. Please do not post again.

The bible says that it is okay to own slaves. This means that if you were my slave it would be ok. Do I want to own any slaves? no. Your saying i'm in denial, clearly you do not understand english. Just because something is ok, does not mean I am forced to do it. It is ok to jump off a cliff, do I want to though, no. See what I mean dum dum. Your treating people like property. That is wrong. Your the type of person that would be ok to slavery. Am I wrong? probably not. I mean they are just property right? They do not even have lives, for they are slaves, right? Your kind of thinking is wrong. Please refrain from posting again for you will simply be wasting my time, I really don't care that much what you do of yours for you are stubborn in the way that you think. You cannot change someone unless they want to change themselves. Words of wisdom. Hopefully you understood them.

 

[Typhon]

On account of you not replying back to anything else other than those two sentences, I will elaborate for you what the meaning is knowing that I have won the debate on the account that you have given up. Please do not post again.

The bible says that it is okay to own slaves. This means that if you were my slave it would be ok. Do I want to own any slaves? no. Your saying i'm in denial, clearly you do not understand english. Just because something is ok, does not mean I am forced to do it. It is ok to jump off a cliff, do I want to though, no. See what I mean dum dum. Your treating people like property. That is wrong. Your the type of person that would be ok to slavery. Am I wrong? probably not. I mean they are just property right? They do not even have lives, for they are slaves, right? Your kind of thinking is wrong. Please refrain from posting again for you will simply be wasting my time, I really don't care that much what you do of yours for you are stubborn in the way that you think. You cannot change someone unless they want to change themselves. Words of wisdom. Hopefully you understood them.

You just went on a tirade saying its wrong to consider people your property (which I clearly agree with, not sure how you could possibly think otherwise).

Leviticus 25:44-46: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property.

Leviticus 22:11: But if a priest buys a slave as his property for money, the slave may eat of it, and anyone born in his house may eat of his food.

The bible just said that slaves may be your property, and there is nothing wrong with that. You just said it is wrong to consider people property.

You disagree with the bible.

If you disagree with me on that, your issue is not with me but with the English language.

You cannot change someone unless they want to change themselves.

I agree, but I'm not trying to change your mind. Its pretty clear that you already do disagree with some things in the bible, I'm just trying to help you realize what you already admitted to knowing.