Re: Nagato is stronger than EMS madara?
wow dude
First of all Itachi did not obviously beat Nagato. He only managed to live since bee and Naruto were there. only reason he was able to inflict any damage is cause he was busy about to kiill naruto and bee at the same time. Something Itachi would never beable to do alone. Also if it were not for Bee and naruto, Itachi would have been crushed by Chibaku Tensei. So no Nagato is far superior to Itachi. Kishi even said Nagato is the most powerful of the akatsuki so please again, go read the manga. Itachi cannot stand to Nagato without help.
1. Yes Pein fought with 6 bodies but that is a part of the technique, and they each have the one power, buts its still one person. Tahts like saying Naruto does not fight alone cause he has shadow clones.
2. NOOOO naruto had intel from the entire village only cause pein was attacking it. Naruto himself did no intel reaserch, it cost the entire village to get blown up for them to learn peins jutsus. so no this was not fair at all. It is common but not the way naruto got it, it was handed to him.
3. Nagato did not have plenty of prep time, wtf?? He just destroyed the village, and then naruto appeared out of no where. he had no clue naruto would come after he blew up the village.
4. NO the toads were not shit, one of the toads held down the nine tails so no there not, they were very powerful. Also again enough with the multiple bodies, that's like saying its unfair cause Naruto uses shadow clones.
5. Hinata saved his ass cause after she got beat he got angry and turned into the ninetails so yes if it were not for hinata jumping in and getting beat, naruto would not have transformed.
6. Minato absolutely saved him, he was about to completely transform!! if it were not for minato stopping him all pein would of had to do is make Chibaku tensei bigger and trap the nine tails in it.
dude your points are terrible, and your completley forgetting the fact that deva path was inactive half the fight. If he was active from the start, naruto would not have stood a chance.
Nagato/Pein>Itachi or Naruto.
Deal with it.
My points are terrible??? LOL.
First of all, Itachi only received help from the Naruto/Bee for the Chibaku Tensei, but this does not mean he couldnt have escaped it himself. Lets not forget Itachi also had Izanagi at his disposal. And dont say he needed Senju DNA, because IZANAMI was created because too many Uchiha were using Izanagi for the wrong reasons during battles--These Uchiha members did NOT have Senju DNA when performing Izanagi, and over-using Izanagi was the prime reason Izanami was created to begin with.
1. This makes no sense. Nagato is using multiple bodies, period. They don't just dissappear when hit/hurt, they all MUST BE KILLED. Hence the term "bodies" and not "clones" so dont compare them to clones. They are much more, they are created from real bodies and must be completely killed to be stopped.
2. Your basically agreeing with me here. no arguement.
3. THE MOONS EYE PLAN WAS TO CAPTURE ALL TAILED BEAST. Please do not tell me he did not have prep time, the entire Akatskui had "prep time" and "intel" on ALL of the jinchurrriki, including the 9 tails jinchurriki. They did NOT start the Moon eye plan without sufficient prep time and intel, of course. Madara/Obito was no idiot. Pein got direct intel from Obito who got direct intel about Kurama and its jinchuriki abilities from Madara himself.
4. I never said the toads weren't powerful. I called them sh*t because they did not influence this battle specifically in any significant way, besides one of them getting killed. LMAO
5. Whatever. The 9 tails has NEVER allowed naruto to DIE without helping him. He ALWAYS bails out Naruto. This battle was no exception, he would have saved Naruto by giving him power at the last minute before he died, as always. ALWAYS. Hinata just happened to influence him first, but if Hinata wasnt there and Naruto was about to die KURAMA WOULD SAVE HIM AS USUAL.
6. Again, it is painfully obvious that the 9 tails power saved naruto, yet again. KURAMA would have given Naruto the chakra he needed to escape the Chibaku Tensei before he allowed him to die.
7. Please stop bringing up Deva path. The paths of Pein are NOT pein himself, and you ASSUME this other body would have been Naruto's demise. Thats like me saying Naruto didnt beat Nagato "sooner" cause he never partially transformed to the Kuubi cloak even though he had that ability in previous battles. Nagato didnt fight using 100% of his arsenal and neither did Naruto, or Naruto would have been fighting using Chakra Cloaks like he did against Sasuke during their 1st fight.
