EMS madara was at a serious disadvantage

[From the Dark Spire]

It's just too clear that the senju is superior to Uchiha.

I mean Madara used his susanoo. Who among the senju clan BESIDES hashi and tobi were even strong enough to break through susanoo. And it was the incomplete susanoo, not the weaker, ribcage one. I mean if it was me, I would wipe them all out without hesitation, yet Madara is on the ground, hashi, tobi and the other senjus standing tall, no wounds on them or nothing.

Fucck equality, and forget what I said before that the senju aren't really being shown as the strongest clan.

SENJU > ALL I'm finally convinced now. The UCHIHA ARE NOTHING TO THE SENJU, PERIOD!

I mean not once did we see Tobirama or Hashirama, or any senju REALLY important down and hurt with the uchihas standing tall.

And don't say, "well Itama was ganged up". ITAMA was a LITTLE KID, and FIVE GROWN AZZ UCHIHAS ganged up and killed that little 8 year old looking senju.

Senju>Uchiha They're not equal, simple logic.

 

[Creedo]

but it would be strange if it took a whole day for SENJU reinforcements to come to hashirama`s side...plus hashirama didnt look so tired when madara was wasted...i have a feeling madara battled more opponents than just hashirama

So what about Uchiha's reinforcements? Same thing... I think that this battle took so long because Hashirama and Madara were of almost identical strength. If it was actually full clan vs Madara he would be wasted easily. Even Hashi+Tobirama vs Madara he still would loose easily as Tobirama killed MS Izuna.

 

[MrLukyso]

It's just too clear that the senju is superior to Uchiha.

I mean Madara used his susanoo. Who among the senju clan BESIDES hashi and tobi were even strong enough to break through susanoo. And it was the incomplete susanoo, not the weaker, ribcage one. I mean if it was me, I would wipe them all out without hesitation, yet Madara is on the ground, hashi, tobi and the other senjus standing tall, no wounds on them or nothing.

Fucck equality, and forget what I said before that the senju aren't really being shown as the strongest clan.

SENJU > ALL I'm finally convinced now. The UCHIHA ARE NOTHING TO THE SENJU, PERIOD!

I mean not once did we see Tobirama or Hashirama, or any senju REALLY important down and hurt with the uchihas standing tall.

And don't say, "well Itama was ganged up". ITAMA was a LITTLE KID, and FIVE GROWN AZZ UCHIHAS ganged up and killed that little 8 year old looking senju.

Senju>Uchiha They're not equal, simple logic.

Oh yeah ? "or any senju REALLY important down and hurt with the uchihas standing tall." when Tsunade will stick hers body from 2 pieces again call me ok ? Btw I think SHE'S NOT OK.

And now no senju could stand a chance against Madara, so yeah it's G.G.

 

[3MESSIAH]

And the crying begins.

:NO::NO::NO:

It's just too clear that the senju is superior to Uchiha.

I mean Madara used his susanoo. Who among the senju clan BESIDES hashi and tobi were even strong enough to break through susanoo. And it was the incomplete susanoo, not the weaker, ribcage one. I mean if it was me, I would wipe them all out without hesitation, yet Madara is on the ground, hashi, tobi and the other senjus standing tall, no wounds on them or nothing.

Fucck equality, and forget what I said before that the senju aren't really being shown as the strongest clan.

SENJU > ALL I'm finally convinced now. The UCHIHA ARE NOTHING TO THE SENJU, PERIOD!

I mean not once did we see Tobirama or Hashirama, or any senju REALLY important down and hurt with the uchihas standing tall.

And don't say, "well Itama was ganged up". ITAMA was a LITTLE KID, and FIVE GROWN AZZ UCHIHAS ganged up and killed that little 8 year old looking senju.

Senju>Uchiha They're not equal, simple logic.

Kishi is really a SENJU fan i guess XD

So what about Uchiha's reinforcements? Same thing... I think that this battle took so long because Hashirama and Madara were of almost identical strength. If it was actually full clan vs Madara he would be wasted easily. Even Hashi+Tobirama vs Madara he still would loose easily as Tobirama killed MS Izuna.

madara stated that no one thought highly of him in his clan anymore....so there is a chance that no one wanted to confront SENJU with him anymore,that`s why madara`s reinforcements werent coming....as for hashirama and madara having an almost identical strength i agree...although it looks like madara was fodderized:dunno:

 

[Creedo]

:NO::NO::NO:




Kishi is really a SENJU fan i guess XD



madara stated that no one thought highly of him in his clan anymore....so there is a chance that no one wanted to confront SENJU with him anymore,that`s why madara`s reinforcements werent coming....as for hashirama and madara having an almost identical strength i agree...although it looks like madara was fodderized:dunno:

One is not simply fodderized after 24h of battle ;P Hashi looks tired after this battle but remember he had his regeneration tech so even if he is really tired and drained of chakra he may still look like "nothing happened"

 

[Wildslayer]

Everyone seems to be missing Hashirama wasn't really fighting with full strength. I know this because he didn't have the intention of killing his opponents. If you don't fight with the intention of killing your adversary you can't use full-strength.
I can guarantee you that Madara was fighting with the intention of killing.

Hashirama != Madara
Hashirama > Madara

 

[Anorien16]

Is it just me or is it obvious that EMS madara wasnt only fighting hashirama,but also his brother tobirama and a couple more SENJUS at the same time in the latest chapter.....

i guess it`s because of that that he lost so miserably....i would expect a deal more of an equal outcome of the fight if it were just EMS madara vs hashirama??_@:

he couldnt have been that weak,,what do you guys think?

Then Hashirama defeated Madara+Kurama alone......

Also do u think Madara was dumb enough to challange the Senju clan all alone?

 

[3MESSIAH]

Then Hashirama defeated Madara+Kurama alone......

Also do u think Madara was dumb enough to challange the Senju clan all alone?

no all i am saying is that maybe tobirama and other SENJUS came as reinforcements later on and madara had to fight against them too,so he was maybe overpowered

 

[cmontesi]

no all i am saying is that maybe tobirama and other SENJUS came as reinforcements later on and madara had to fight against them too,so he was maybe overpowered

Since you love making assumptions,
Then maybe Hashirama and the Senju were fighting the Hagoromo clan and Uchiha clan but there were so inferior, they killed them all right there and then. As a result, Hashirama told everyone to leave his toy, Madara, alone so no fodder Senju could kill him.

 

[Creedo]

Well we can only assume but I think Kishi wouldnt make such overkill. And one thing, we will never know for sure about it so why argue?

 

[cmontesi]

Well we can only assume but I think Kishi wouldnt make such overkill. And one thing, we will never know for sure about it so why argue?

He wants to argue though. He can't accept the fact Madara is inferior and so is the whole Uchiha Clan.
The real mystery, how did the Senju disappear?

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

He wants to argue though. He can't accept the fact Madara is inferior and so is the whole Uchiha Clan.
The real mystery, how did the Senju disappear?

quite obvious after hahsi death they went into decline then when tobi died they were doomed

 

[3MESSIAH]

Since you love making assumptions,
Then maybe Hashirama and the Senju were fighting the Hagoromo clan and Uchiha clan but there were so inferior, they killed them all right there and then. As a result, Hashirama told everyone to leave his toy, Madara, alone so no fodder Senju could kill him.

everything here is an assumption untill the fact is at hand.even you people claiming that madara only fought hashirama is an assumption because it is not proven.it is well possible that madara fought all of them like it is also possible that he only fought hashirama.nothing is 100%proven so i am allowed to make an assumption here i think.while this assumption of hagoromo clan just came out of nowhere for the sole purpose to offend my way of portraying an assumption right??

 

[Bogard]

Damage control? Hashirama fodderises Madara whether he is alone or in a group. Only reason why Madara is still alive is because Hashirama spared his life. He never wanted someone to kill him, not even his brother

 

[cmontesi]

everything here is an assumption untill the fact is at hand.even you people claiming that madara only fought hashirama is an assumption because it is not proven.it is well possible that madara fought all of them like it is also possible that he only fought hashirama.nothing is 100%proven so i am allowed to make an assumption here i think.while this assumption of hagoromo clan just came out of nowhere for the sole purpose to offend my way of portraying an assumption right??

It was said in the flashbacks that the Hagoromo clan were fighting alongside the Uchiha's.

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[NOemotions]

but it would be strange if it took a whole day for SENJU reinforcements to come to hashirama`s side...plus hashirama didnt look so tired when madara was wasted...i have a feeling madara battled more opponents than just hashirama

Hashi said madara was fighting everyday all day. no wonder he was tired xd maybe madara tried to assassinate hashi and then tobirama and other senjus came to hashis side and they all just weakened him then started to talk about everything..

 

[3MESSIAH]

It was said in the flashbacks that the Hagoromo clan were fighting alongside the Uchiha's.

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i know what i meant was that your hagoromo clan being there and fighting with madara against hashirama assumption was just thrown here and it had nothing to do with my question as my assumption could consist of some possibility of being true because we actually saw other SENJU being there but didnt even see a bit of hagoromo being mentioned there

 

[cmontesi]

i know what i meant was that your hagoromo clan being there and fighting with madara against hashirama assumption was just thrown here and it had nothing to do with my question as my assumption could consist of some possibility of being true because we actually saw other SENJU being there but didnt even see a bit of hagoromo being mentioned there

I'll give you that. But then again, it was said that the Uchiha's were inferior to the Senju's. Therefore, we can deduce that as Hashirama was fighting Madara, other Uchiha's were fighting other Senju's and the Uchiha's were killed.
That makes it even more believable when it says that Madara was fighting for 24 hours. That basically means it was team vs team.

 

[3MESSIAH]

I'll give you that. But then again, it was said that the Uchiha's were inferior to the Senju's. Therefore, we can deduce that as Hashirama was fighting Madara, other Uchiha's were fighting other Senju's and the Uchiha's were killed.
That makes it even more believable when it says that Madara was fighting for 24 hours. That basically means it was team vs team.

yeah that could also be true

 

[cmontesi]

Yep.
"After a full day of fighting" =/= fighting for 24 hours straight. It was just one day of fighting = team vs team.
It's been all over the manga when they go on missions or even during the Third Shinobi War. They fight for a full day but that doesn't mean they fight 24 hours straight. Rather, they fight a few hours, then they hide and rest. Only for them to come back after a few hours. Of course, you'd need a lot of stamina for that. Even Kakashi fought for a full day.