Senju greater than Uchiha

[Yatori]

What irony is i dont see uchiha fanboys after 624 hahaha

 

[TheTrueMadara]

m..back then yes..
but look now...3 uchiha's left.. and 1 senju

but look two uchihas who got strong by senju dna

 

[Victorelder2k13]

That's so true. And am sure the likes of Naruto got Senju Blood in them

Since the uzimaki clan are relatives to the senju for some strange reason I think they have more relatives

 

[narut2]

What irony is i dont see uchiha fanboys after 624 hahaha

Ahahaha they all ran on their heels

 

[narut2]

but look two uchihas who got strong by senju dna

U saying 2 uchiha with senju dna will wipe out the shinobi force..._u gotta be kiddn me

 

[Beastbomb]

That's so true. And am sure the likes of Naruto got Senju Blood in them

Technically speaking, yes Naruto does have distant Senju blood in him being that the Uzumaki clan are distant relatives of the Senju clan. Also his large chakre reserves and life force prove this fact imo, and I can't say for certain but there are bound to be others out there somewhere

 

[TheTrueMadara]

U saying 2 uchiha with senju dna will wipe out the shinobi force..._u gotta be kiddn me

nah im saying they needed senju dna to be strong

 

[Victorelder2k13]

The 1st and 2nd hokage can take on madara and Obito and let the 3rd 4th and the rest of the Alliance handle the jubbi

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

It was obvious....but uchiha fanboys were just being retarded

 

[Whiteknight]

With the Latest manga (624) we can clearly see that Senju clan is Superior to Uchiha clan. I mean even Uchiha defectors were giving themselves in to the Senju. Even with MS, Madara couldn't beat Hashirama, Just how Powerful are the senju? More importantly Hashirama?

We know that they've got huge chakra reserves. Hashirama's power is certainly the largest but maybe not by a huge amount. We may never know.

What's interesting is to go back and compare to some of the earlier chapters in the chuunin exams, when people talk about Sasuke and the Uchiha as if they are the most powerful clan in the village. Clearly the Senju were more powerful at one point.

It might also have something to do with relative numbers.

Notice that most Uchiha don't awaken their MS, and at least a handful of Uchiha might have sacrificed their own sharingan for performing Izanagi and Izanami. We also know that Uchiha don't awaken their sharingan eyes until they've been in a large amount of battle stress, which means that younger Uchiha are going to be weaker on average than senju children (Senju children have their power automatically and don't need to unlock anything to reach "full power").

Tobirama also talks about how the desire for vengence drives some Uchiha insane.

Add these things together, and it's not hard to imagine that the Uchiha clan reproduced less, had more children die young, and some of their best warriors were driven insane to the point that they couldn't marry and have or raise children.

It might have just been a numbers game. There were more Senju, the Uchiha were outnumbered, and even if they were more powerful individually they would have lost in the end.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Kishi obviously didnt want to focus on the details of the battle too much this chapter. Im having trouble seeing how tobirama could so easily overpower someone with a susanoo(since izuna had the mangekyuo). I used to believe that overall uchiha and senju were equal, i fail to see how an alliance between the 2 led to konoha. An alliance is made between equals, or at least thats the impression i got earlier. Im anything but an uchiha fan, however this chapter did not make logical sense. Tobirama, who can barely handle kinkaku and ginkaku, has minato like techs? And izuna didnt even bother pulling a susanoo? bs..
Plus if there was such an obvious difference between the 2 clans, the uchiha should have been wiped out long before the massacre. Its not that im saying this is all unfair, but if you recall the flashback when obito talked to sasuke, hashirama and madara were shaking hands, like an even pedestal. If konoha was founded based on one clan overpowering the other and forcing it to join like that, it was bound to be destroyed and the peace forever lost and hashirama was an idiot for thinking otherwise. All that has happened to konoha since its founding vis a vis the uchiha comes as no surprise , you could even say it was inevitable. Kishi couldve come up with something a little less easyand more complex a background than this.

 

[apple pie of doom]

Strange, seeing as most stories told us they were always equal.
But at least its clarified by now.
Still does'nt change that current Madara would likely destroy Hashirama.

 

[Orochimagus]

Don't get mad. Just because they were inferior does not mean they were not a threat. This chapter shows that Hashirama had been holding back in all their battles. Always being with his "I don't wanna kill you" frame of mind. So we have Madara on his back in this chapter, then later he loses the battle for Hokage, then later loses the battle at the valley WITH Kurama. Please cease the arguments on equality. He never matched Hashirama.

 

[Honord Sage]

Technically speaking, yes Naruto does have distant Senju blood in him being that the Uzumaki clan are distant relatives of the Senju clan. Also his large chakre reserves and life force prove this fact imo, and I can't say for certain but there are bound to be others out there somewhere

No the Senju and Uchiha have a little Uzumaki in them SenjuDNA+Uchiha DNA = Uzumaki DNA.