FTG tech is not easy to deal with

[Thundergod123]

I like how everyone says " FTG is easy to counte." So we will start with your theories and break them down piece by piece shall we?!
So first off ive seen " You just have to know where he is gonna teleport" OK through a process i could see this maybe happening if your the only opponent but even then skeptical at best. "If you know where he is gonna teleport then you can time your attack" Also fail to everyone that thinks that because just as "knowing where he will be" doesnt mean you have the speed to do anything about it and Ay is the 2nd or 3rd fastest character in the series and if he couldnt what makes you think slower people can?!?! Lets face it even the sharingan wont help ya there. "Long range attackers" this i will give the most credibility but still flawed, so far ive based most of minato without the use of a 100 kunai at his side, but here i will use that which is def a game changer and gap closer, and lets face it he is smart enough to use them correctly. "Use a clone as bait" .........to these people i ask.....are you remedial? Cuz if anything he will be using a clone too. Moral of the story here is FTG is a jutsu that simply is not easy to counter in any form or fashion and you give it to Minato and it becomes a haxxed Jutsu, ill admit it lol. Anyone here that says there is an easy way to counter-sorry your in denial or think you are perfect, but b4 you start to ramble dumb things back at me re-read what i wrote it will answer your question for you!

This, and i agree with........

Obito and Ay knew how FTG tech worked and knew where Minato teleported, but of course they failed. Full of knowledge doesn't mean that u can beat one person only because u know how it works

People who thinks FTG tech is easy to counter, then let them.......

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Easy if u know even the simplest info on the jutsu

List of jutsu to counter it
Rotation
Ameretsu
Almighty push
Scorch release
Magnetic release
Dust release
Lava release
chidori negashi
Exploding clone & jokey boy itachi or deidara
Clam genjutsu
Konan's final jutsu
Kimimaro's seedling fern

List of ways to get around it:

• Clones
• Terrain advantage
• Knowledge on the jutsu
• Large scale devastating attacks

Ftg is one of the most op jutsu but great defense & location are the best ways to negate that powerful jutsu
Example: gaara sasuke mu oonoki deidara all can fly making the jutsu futile

 

[Captain Jimjam]

I don't by any means think FTG is easy to handle necessarily. It means the user can move at practically the speed of light to a place of their choosing, given the area is marked with a formula than can be inscripted onto kunai, then thrown randomly, making an attack from a blind spot easy enough. Even a good knowledge of the battlefield doesn't mean you will know exactly where the user will go, and the same issue occurs with knowing where all the kunai are. I myself think the only true weakness to the FTG is two skilled Hyuuga ninja, such as Neji and Hinata, working as a tag team. Covering their blindspots of their Byakugan, they would be able to see in practically 360 degrees combined. This makes a blindspot attack incredibly tricky, and as a result taking the enemy by surprise is even harder.

 

[justtoflametrolls]

Easy if u know even the simplest info on the jutsu

List of jutsu to counter it
Rotation / Gotta be super fast- and cant spin forever
Ameretsu / If Ay can dodge it we can assume Minato with FTG can as well
Almighty push / only a large scale 1 would suffice but then again thats only 1 shot b4 Deva needs recharging.
Scorch release / Bounce between destinations and they will never touch you.
Magnetic release / If Minato gets magnetized then yes i could see it.
Dust release / takes way too long to power-up
Lava release / maybe if your stuck in a building..maybe
chidori negashi / seems plausible
Exploding clone & jokey boy / Now this I personally think takes the cake! Unless he can kill the original and not worry about the clone.
Clam genjutsu / Lot of ways around this one but for sake of argument ill say FTG user must withdraw to get out of the effects then resume.
Konan's final jutsu / Throw a kunai in the air,port to it,throw it higher in the air,tele again? lol
Kimimaro's seedling fern / seems plausible for a suprise attack.

List of ways to get around it:

• Clones
• Terrain advantage
• Knowledge on the jutsu
• Large scale devastating attacks

Ftg is one of the most op jutsu but great defense & location are the best ways to negate that powerful jutsu
Example: gaara sasuke mu oonoki deidara all can fly making the jutsu futile

If he tags a flyer with a seal its GG. Overall this is a better list than what I have seen Good Job

 

[Fearmonger]

Oh, I see. Here it is

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[ajpn920]

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[BloodSeed]

if raikage figured it why not the like of shikamaru or sasuke lol this is the most stupid arguement ive ever read.
1) 4th raikage got lucky that he was saved by bee so he was alive to realized what happened. how would he figured it out if he is dead?
2) could anyone able to track minatos speed while in FTG no. v2 raikage speed is so fast that even a sharingan cant keep up. FTG>v2 raikage who in the hell have the eyesight better than 4th raikage his eyeball is fast cause he is also fast.

i can go on

 

[Kagerou]

I don't see the point of this thread tbh.

 

[sealingscroll]

To be honest i think shikamaru and shikaku (i think thats his name) if minato just teleports all they have to do is shadow each kunai and if he appears he could already be trapped by the shadow possession. (just my opinion) plus i don't know if minato has shown to use shadow clones but we already know alot of people do as well. if so a shadow clone FTG minato seems pretty well farfetch'd would be pretty hard as well. (thats like saying naruto using FTG with all the clones possibly never will happen.

 

[BloodSeed]

To be honest i think shikamaru and shikaku (i think thats his name) if minato just teleports all they have to do is shadow each kunai and if he appears he could already be trapped by the shadow possession. (just my opinion) plus i don't know if minato has shown to use shadow clones but we already know alot of people do as well. if so a shadow clone FTG minato seems pretty well farfetch'd would be pretty hard as well. (thats like saying naruto using FTG with all the clones possibly never will happen.

lol and what protects shikaku or shikamaru from minato killing them before they can used the counter that you are saying?

 

[Jonesy161]

I like how everyone says " FTG is easy to counte." So we will start with your theories and break them down piece by piece shall we?!
So first off ive seen " You just have to know where he is gonna teleport" OK through a process i could see this maybe happening if your the only opponent but even then skeptical at best. "If you know where he is gonna teleport then you can time your attack" Also fail to everyone that thinks that because just as "knowing where he will be" doesnt mean you have the speed to do anything about it and Ay is the 2nd or 3rd fastest character in the series and if he couldnt what makes you think slower people can?!?! Lets face it even the sharingan wont help ya there. "Long range attackers" this i will give the most credibility but still flawed, so far ive based most of minato without the use of a 100 kunai at his side, but here i will use that which is def a game changer and gap closer, and lets face it he is smart enough to use them correctly. "Use a clone as bait" .........to these people i ask.....are you remedial? Cuz if anything he will be using a clone too. Moral of the story here is FTG is a jutsu that simply is not easy to counter in any form or fashion and you give it to Minato and it becomes a haxxed Jutsu, ill admit it lol. Anyone here that says there is an easy way to counter-sorry your in denial or think you are perfect, but b4 you start to ramble dumb things back at me re-read what i wrote it will answer your question for you!

Nice wall of text. Use space bar next time.

Also, we don't know if A was able to counter Minato. A memorized where all the kunais were and he was completely prepared for Minato to use the technique. What A didn't know was that Minato placed a seal on Bee earlier. When Minato teleported, A was already about to move but saw Minato next to Bee. How can A attack with his brother as a hostage?

If that seal was never on Bee, we may have seen A actually counter FTG so don't use that as a way to disprove a theory.

Secondly, sharingan users. Sharingan obviously can't counter a move that doesn't use movement, however, close combat, sharingan takes the cake. Minato didn't beat Tobi because he was better at close quarter combat due to FTG, he beat him because of a well planned out trick. Tobi thought Minato was gonna try to strike first before Tobi touches him. Since Tobi has the sharingan, he had the upper hand and Minato used that against him.

Third, A talked about Minato's speed as well. According to A, Minato was already fast enough to go on par with A. FTG just gave Minato the upper hand. With Minato's fast thinking, speed and kunais, he can travel short distances instantly which can gather up to a long enough distance to reach long distance opponents. I personally think Long distance fighters are by far the worst choice to go up against Minato.

Fourth, I will say FTG is actually quite easy to counter. Give Naruto FTG, Sasuke can most likely counter it. Give Kakashi FTG and Tobi can most likely counter it. Give Minato FTG and that's on a whole new scale. Minato didn't make the jutsu famous because it's lethal ability. He made it famous because he was a complete genius. They called him a once in a lifetime genius, not a once in a lifetime ninja. Minato's thinking process is so ridiculous that it's nearly on par with the speed of FTG. He's capable of creating counters to any obstacle within seconds, just as he has done so against the kidnappers, to A and Bee, to Tobi and to the Kyuubi.

if raikage figured it why not the like of shikamaru or sasuke lol this is the most stupid arguement ive ever read.
1) 4th raikage got lucky that he was saved by bee so he was alive to realized what happened. how would he figured it out if he is dead?
2) could anyone able to track minatos speed while in FTG no. v2 raikage speed is so fast that even a sharingan cant keep up. FTG>v2 raikage who in the hell have the eyesight better than 4th raikage his eyeball is fast cause he is also fast.

i can go on

You're just matching your picture as a troll.

Tobi knows more about the sharingan than most Uchihas that ever lived. He also has MS which gives him more hax abilities. He was the perfect counter to Minato. He had the eyes to watch Minato, the speed to match Minato and the combat experience to go toe to toe with Minato and possible even win. What he didn't have though to compete against Minato with was his intelligence. Minato was by far smarter than Tobi, saw how Tobi's justu worked and even created a counter attack which relied on a few second margin to get correct to win.

How many people do you know can pull that off? Not even Naruto and Kakashi tag team is able to do that. They're relying on both attacking at the same moment in both dimensions. Minato only had 1 dimension to attack from.

 

[BloodSeed]

Nice wall of text. Use space bar next time.

Also, we don't know if A was able to counter Minato. A memorized where all the kunais were and he was completely prepared for Minato to use the technique. What A didn't know was that Minato placed a seal on Bee earlier. When Minato teleported, A was already about to move but saw Minato next to Bee. How can A attack with his brother as a hostage?

If that seal was never on Bee, we may have seen A actually counter FTG so don't use that as a way to disprove a theory.

Secondly, sharingan users. Sharingan obviously can't counter a move that doesn't use movement, however, close combat, sharingan takes the cake. Minato didn't beat Tobi because he was better at close quarter combat due to FTG, he beat him because of a well planned out trick. Tobi thought Minato was gonna try to strike first before Tobi touches him. Since Tobi has the sharingan, he had the upper hand and Minato used that against him.

Third, A talked about Minato's speed as well. According to A, Minato was already fast enough to go on par with A. FTG just gave Minato the upper hand. With Minato's fast thinking, speed and kunais, he can travel short distances instantly which can gather up to a long enough distance to reach long distance opponents. I personally think Long distance fighters are by far the worst choice to go up against Minato.

Fourth, I will say FTG is actually quite easy to counter. Give Naruto FTG, Sasuke can most likely counter it. Give Kakashi FTG and Tobi can most likely counter it. Give Minato FTG and that's on a whole new scale. Minato didn't make the jutsu famous because it's lethal ability. He made it famous because he was a complete genius. They called him a once in a lifetime genius, not a once in a lifetime ninja. Minato's thinking process is so ridiculous that it's nearly on par with the speed of FTG. He's capable of creating counters to any obstacle within seconds, just as he has done so against the kidnappers, to A and Bee, to Tobi and to the Kyuubi.




You're just matching your picture as a troll.

Tobi knows more about the sharingan than most Uchihas that ever lived. He also has MS which gives him more hax abilities. He was the perfect counter to Minato. He had the eyes to watch Minato, the speed to match Minato and the combat experience to go toe to toe with Minato and possible even win. What he didn't have though to compete against Minato with was his intelligence. Minato was by far smarter than Tobi, saw how Tobi's justu worked and even created a counter attack which relied on a few second margin to get correct to win.

How many people do you know can pull that off? Not even Naruto and Kakashi tag team is able to do that. They're relying on both attacking at the same moment in both dimensions. Minato only had 1 dimension to attack from.

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[Jonesy161]

MJ's reaction at the bolded part

Yea, like I said, nothing but a troll.

 

[BloodSeed]

Yea, like I said, nothing but a troll.

why dont you just prove youre claim at the bolded part scan please. or its BS
tobi was outclassed by that battle

same happen with your favorite character raikage he was outclassed believing he can counter minato. but minatos intelligence is so far advanced that he knew raikage would go for the kunai

ps. yondaime hokage haters used him as avatars and signature to blend but in reality they downplay minato

 

[Jonesy161]

why dont you just prove youre claim at the bolded part scan please. or its BS
tobi was outclassed by that battle

same happen with your favorite character raikage he was outclassed believing he can counter minato. but minatos intelligence is so far advanced that he knew raikage would go for the kunai

ps. yondaime hokage haters used him as avatars and signature to blend but in reality they downplay minato

Deal.

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Minato teleports to some random ass location. Tobi follows? We've learned it from other characters too like Sasuke, Kages, Danzou, etc. Tobi can teleport wherever he pleases, even to someone. That means he knows where Minato is at all times, AT ALL TIMES.

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Minato stating Tobi's space-time jutsu exceeds that of his FTG.

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Minato taking advantage of the fox under Tobi's control. He knows Tobi is focusing on controlling the fox so Tobi can't fight at full strength. He also takes notice of a few second margin error to counter Tobi.

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Both Tobi and Minato knows that Tobi was faster. Tobi lays the first finger, Minato still a distance. Minato uses that instant while Tobi is in a solid state to teleport and attack.

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Minato wins in a split second time frame. Reason, calculated planning. He knew Tobi would win that challenge and used the moment Tobi solidified to attack. That wasn't a win because of just speed or combat, it was a win because of his wits.

Overall, Tobi wasn't even able to use full power because he had the 9-tails under his control and Minato still knew he couldn't beat Tobi without that opportunity.

Point proven.


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[ajpn920]

No one can counter FTG easily because of it's radius. Minato can be ABOVE you like this

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or INFRONT like this

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or at the BACK of an enemy like this

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@Jonesy161: Be grateful that Minato did not kill your fav character right away because he was thinking of the safety of the village first. Like the scan above, he can appear anywhere near his mark. If it happens that he appeared on Tobi's back and slit his throat, then there's no current ninja war where we have been blessed to see badass characters.

 

[MinatoNamikaze25]

ok first off even if every jutsu has a weakness like itachi stated you gotta keep up with minato to do it which we all know no ones been able to do that yet Ay was close but even failed after he figured it out and we only seen little bit of his powers so far hes also a quick analyzer and and god forbid if his enemies mess up? it would not even take a second for minato to take the advantage and if they get marked by his jutsu? they might as well give up because there done regardless...and now hes edo!?? lol hes twice as deadly (infinite chakra)

 

[BloodSeed]

Deal.

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Minato teleports to some random ass location. Tobi follows? We've learned it from other characters too like Sasuke, Kages, Danzou, etc. Tobi can teleport wherever he pleases, even to someone. That means he knows where Minato is at all times, AT ALL TIMES.

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Minato stating Tobi's space-time jutsu exceeds that of his FTG.

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Minato taking advantage of the fox under Tobi's control. He knows Tobi is focusing on controlling the fox so Tobi can't fight at full strength. He also takes notice of a few second margin error to counter Tobi.

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Both Tobi and Minato knows that Tobi was faster. Tobi lays the first finger, Minato still a distance. Minato uses that instant while Tobi is in a solid state to teleport and attack.

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Minato wins in a split second time frame. Reason, calculated planning. He knew Tobi would win that challenge and used the moment Tobi solidified to attack. That wasn't a win because of just speed or combat, it was a win because of his wits.

Overall, Tobi wasn't even able to use full power because he had the 9-tails under his control and Minato still knew he couldn't beat Tobi without that opportunity.

Point proven.


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let me end your delusion. minato is by far faster than tobi in base speed. minato tried to feint tobi making him believe he can touch minato when they traded blows but minato teleported above him and smack a rasengan on his back.

minato's speed is way>>>>>tobi

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tobi swings his arm while minato move snatch naruto in mid air. if tobi was faster that wont happen

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does it look like tobi>minato in speed in this image? lol minato is faster than what he have thrown tobi+kunai didnt cover a much larger distance than minato

 

[Wparker6804]

Minato's already insanely fast. If he reaches a spot, he can make a seal there. The kunai is so he can distract the enemy (making him/her decide who to deal with: Minato, or the kunai where Minato will soon be) while doing his own thing. It's going from being really fast to really fast AND practically in two places at the same time.

I think that the Flying Thunder God Technique is PERFECT for Naruto if it's "that" jutsu

 

[NagazuDead]

itachi can figure out where minato will through his kunai next < so can shikamaru, and plan for attack
itachi can reasonably beat minato and obito

Maybe not, he can hide one of his kunai somewhere else that he don't know. And he can just throw a kunai in the air and teleport + he could beat Bee + A