Atheism - A System Of Belief

[PhazoN]

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Atheism is not a belief, nor a belief system, so this picture and the OP are equally stupid. :/

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Atheism is not a belief, nor a belief system, so this picture and the OP are equally stupid. :/

Really? You all believe in the same thing and gather together in groups to practice your belief system. You guys even have Atheist fund raisers to "spread the truth"

 

[Moss]

Get ready for the religious separation of Narutobase...


(It's gonna be epic! :x3:

 

[Darthlawsuit]

Get ready for the religious separation of Narutobase...


(It's gonna be epic! :x3:

It happens like once every week. It isn't very epic and just keeps repeating itself.

 

[Moss]

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[PhazoN]

Really? You all believe in the same thing and gather together in groups to practice your belief system. You guys even have Atheist fund raisers to "spread the truth"

Wrong. Atheists do not believe there is no god. Atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist.

 

[Moss]

Wrong. Atheists do not believe there is no god. Atheism is the absence of belief that any deities exist.

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[Flaw]

inb4 YowYwan comes and shits all over this thread.

Contrary to atheistic belief, religious people think as well. We are raised and taught religious ways until we develop the ability to think by ourselves.
Having faith doesn't mean we are unable to think, but rather that we reached a different conclusion than atheists (and they need to deal with this). Namely that no matter how hard we try we can't know everything (Unless we are teenagers, teenagers always know everything - I shit you not, I was an enraged atheist for about 3-4 years).

And I label myself an Orthodox because that's how I was raised, however, I barely even go to Church or Fast (which I regret), but I do pray every evening for about 10 minutes and I believe in the God that Orthodoxy preaches, and in the Holy Bible, although not entirely. Religion was altered by man, and it's God I believe in, not man.

/end thread
/end all religious wars

 

[PhazoN]

inb4 YowYwan comes and shits all over this thread.

Contrary to atheistic belief, religious people think as well. We are raised and taught religious ways until we develop the ability to think by ourselves.
Having faith doesn't mean we are unable to think, but rather that we reached a different conclusion than atheists (and they need to deal with this). Namely that no matter how hard we try we can't know everything (Unless we are teenagers, teenagers always know everything - I shit you not, I was an enraged atheist for about 3-4 years).

And I label myself an Orthodox because that's how I was raised, however, I barely even go to Church or Fast (which I regret), but I do pray every evening for about 10 minutes and I believe in the God that Orthodoxy preaches, and in the Holy Bible. Religions was altered by man, and it's God I believe in, not man.

/end thread
/end all religious wars

Who said that religious people don't think? You're taking this completely out of context and your personal story has nothing to do with the thread.

 

[Flaw]

Who said that religious people don't think? You're taking this completely out of context and your personal story has nothing to do with the thread.

Stereotypes do. My personal story is to offer an example.
And I edited my post because I detected some major errors.

 

[Moss]

inb4 YowYwan comes and shits all over this thread.

Contrary to atheistic belief, religious people think as well. We are raised and taught religious ways until we develop the ability to think by ourselves.
Having faith doesn't mean we are unable to think, but rather that we reached a different conclusion than atheists (and they need to deal with this). Namely that no matter how hard we try we can't know everything (Unless we are teenagers, teenagers always know everything - I shit you not, I was an enraged atheist for about 3-4 years).

And I label myself an Orthodox because that's how I was raised, however, I barely even go to Church or Fast (which I regret), but I do pray every evening for about 10 minutes and I believe in the God that Orthodoxy preaches, and in the Holy Bible. Religion was altered by man, and it's God I believe in, not man.

/end thread
/end all religious wars

XD It's not as simple as "/end" just because you posted your own opinion! Frankly, I think you're wasting your life with the above stuff, but again, that's an opinion. How am I meant to believe some Arab man who found a couple of tablets 2000 years ago, and expect it to still be relevant to my life? It isn't.

 

[PhazoN]

Stereotypes do. My personal story is to offer an example.
And I edited my post because I detected some major errors.

Again, what you posted has no relevance whatsoever. Stereotypes? Your story? This thread is to discuss if atheism is a belief system or not.

 

[Flaw]

Again, what you posted has no relevance whatsoever. Stereotypes? Your story? This thread is to discuss if atheism is a belief system or not.

Dude, every thread is so damn peacefully-intended but eventually turns into religious people fighting atheists.
My post doesn't shove my faith down anyone's throats, I simply want to use nice and slightly humorous words to establish some sort of neutrality before everyone starts throwing their weight around. I'm not debating religion here, but rather the war between atheists and religious people. My opinion on God is irrelevant, but apparently you're too hot-headed about it.

 

[Flaw]

XD It's not as simple as "/end" just because you posted your own opinion! Frankly, I think you're wasting your life with the above stuff, but again, that's an opinion. How am I meant to believe some Arab man who found a couple of tablets 2000 years ago, and expect it to still be relevant to my life? It isn't.

My opinion is irrelevant and not meant to be taken into consideration or debated.
The /end was obviously a joke.

 

[drknght]

Atheists don't believe in anything, and that's their problem. They live continuous suspicion, and this type of behavior is the cause of wars.

 

[Kirin Rei]

Atheists don't believe in anything, and that's their problem. They live continuous suspicion, and this type of behavior is the cause of wars.

Ahahahaha good one!
Oh, wait...
You're serious?

 

[drknght]

Ahahahaha good one!
Oh, wait...
You're serious?

You're obviously not...

 

[Olorin]

Ok if you think ppl dont have enough information:

Read some books of religion throughout history, read some psychology and books about human behaviour, read something about how similar all religions are and finally read the bible and a few science books and you will see that all religions were man made and you will see how science makes more sense ...

Also an atheist is someone who simply doesnt believe in god he doesnt have to believe in science let alone understand it

@drknght youve posted some pretty stupid stuff but that one has to be in the top 5

 

[Anorien16]

Spoiler

Hello NB. Occasionally, in General Discussion, I'll post some, thought-provoking articles/topics/etc. Frankly, many people are ignorant. And I don't mean that in any insulting way, but rather by the definition: many people lack information, and in this case, of things that are eternally important. However, just coming out and spouting information rarely goes well. So, instead, I decided that on a weekly-(give or take some days)-basis, I'll post one of these threads here. The topics will vary, but will always be interesting. I have also decided that each thread will not be from me, but entirely posted from another source, with credit given to the source at the end of this post. And then of course we can discuss it in the thread.
It should be known that I am a Christian.
I'm asking that we discuss the topics sensibly and in a mature fashion. It would be greatly appreciated if you would actually read the that which is posted and appropriately respond, instead of just flaming. Thank you.
If you would like to directly address me in this thread, and have me respond to you, then quote me.
If you ever have some questions, please feel free to PM me!
-Jobrjo

The atheist frequently attempts to convince himself that he has a totally "scientific" and rational outlook on life. "I deal in facts," he claims, "and you religionists deal only in faith." Such is not an accurate assessment of the situation, for there are many things one must believe (and without any kind of reasonable evidence) in order to subscribe to atheism. Note the following:

1. To be an atheist, one must believe that God does not exist. The atheist cannot logically say, "I know that there is no God," for then he would have to know everything. If he admits that there is anything he does not know, it just might be the fact that "God is."
2. The atheist must either believe that matter is eternal (and the evidence against this), or he must believe that matter was its own creator. Two fundamental laws of science contradict these beliefs - the First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics. The First Law indicates matter cannot create itself, and the Second Law suggests that matter is not eternal.
3. Contrary to the law of Biogenesis (life comes only from life, and that of its kind), atheists believe that life was spontaneously generated.
4. Atheists believe that order and design in nature are the results of non-intelligent accidents.
5. Atheists believe that the non-conscious evolved the conscious, and the non-moral evolved the moral.

These points could be amplified many times over, but this is sufficient to explode the notion that atheism operates solely on fact, leaving "faith" to religionists. One who takes the time and effort to investigate such a chrage will quickly find that it is far from the truth of the matter.

Spoiler

AP -> Surveying the Evidence -> Lesson 1 -> Atheism-A System of Belief

Only thing common between all atheists is that none of them believes in God and the various details about life+matter etc etc varies from person to person details just like all Theists believes in God but we have Christians, Muslin, Hindu, Buddhist etc etc . . . . . blanketing every Atheist under one banner is inaccurate...

While I m up for philosophical debate but first I must say PLEASE FIRST PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR PHYSICS CLASS< THEN BLAB ABOUT LAWS OF THERMODYNAMICS....

First Law of Thermodynamics states: 'For a closed system, in any arbitrary process of interest that takes it from an initial to a final state of internal thermodynamic equilibrium, the change of internal energy is the same as that for a reference adiabatic work process that links those two states. This is so regardless of the path of the process of interest, and regardless of whether it is an adiabatic or a non-adiabatic process.' . . . . . which basically means that the change in the internal energy of a closed system is equal to the amount of heat supplied to the system, minus the amount of work done by the system on its surroundings.

Second Law of Thermodynamics states: 'Heat can never pass from a colder to a warmer body without some other change, connected therewith, occurring at the same time.' or 'It is impossible, by means of inanimate material agency, to derive mechanical effect from any portion of matter by cooling it below the temperature of the coldest of the surrounding objects.' etc which basically means that the entropy of an isolated system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve towards thermodynamic equilibrium.

Also Laws of Thermodynamics applies for certain systems.....

None of the laws says or proves what u said..... plus u totally missed the part where it was clearly explained that the First Law of Thermodynamics is based totally on the law of conservation of energy which clearly states that total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant over time which basically means Energy IS ETERNAL........
Also u may have heard of Mass-Energy Conservation Law which clearly states that sum total of mass and energy is constant in the world.... and neither mass nor energy can be neither created nor destroyed

Please actually read a Physics book before talking about physical laws cos I will not tolerate misinformation propaganda.....

PS I thought it was creationists who believes that life suddenly popped into existence ,i.e., spontaneously generated ...... while Biologists are still trying to find out how.

 

[Husky]

Atheists don't believe in anything, and that's their problem. They live continuous suspicion, and this type of behavior is the cause of wars.

Well, besides your simplistic generalization of atheists as being war mongers, your statement did provide a good key point (if indirectly). As of the beginning of the 20th century their has been a general shift of wars fought for reasons not predominately of religious background, but for secular reasons, i.e ideology, sovereignty, civil liberties, or human rights. Of course, this is not to say that religious wars have not occurred: I'm sure most can get a history book and look over centuries of warfare that were fought for religious aims. The point is, wars will be fought, no matter the cause, simply because humanity can look for any reason to engage in violence.

Also Paul Rudd

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