Kakashi beating Itachi or Minato

[DarkLuxAng]

It's not about the power.. it's about how you are using it.. itachi is smart in battle plans but so is kakashi and if you dont agree you're an fanboy of somesort.. fight could go eitherway.

Sir, i didn't say it was all about power. If that was the case, this thread wouldn't have had this many posts. I also addressed strategy and smarts as you just said. And c'mon, lets be realistic. Kakashi almost died when he met Sasuke again after Danzo's death and he even said that if Naruto didn't come to the rescue, he would have died. So what do you think would have happened if he battled Itachi. Oh and it's funny that you call me a fanboy after stating logical facts..

 

[Zebstrika]

Well thats is your opinion not mine

Prat 2 is not part 3 and Kakashi is more of strategist than Itachi deal with it....

Deal with what? You didn't even explain how Kakashi beats either of these guys.

Shikamaru is a better strategist than BM Naruto. Shikamaru > Naruto? Your logic fails.

 

[King-Panda]

Personally I won't say Minato>Itachi, but still how can Itachi beat someone he can't catch?

Well Susano to protect himself from sudden attacks, and analysis, but yeah, Itachi vs Minato or Itachi vs Both mankekyou eyes Kakashi would be amazing to watch, also minato vs BME kakashi

Maybe he can beat Itachi (if he has Susano), but I don't think he can beat Minato.

I wonder why people say he would beat Itachi and prob not Minato.... in other words minato>itachi???

Sir, i didn't say it was all about power. If that was the case, this thread wouldn't have had this many posts. I also addressed strategy and smarts as you just said. And c'mon, lets be realistic. Kakashi almost died when he met Sasuke again after Danzo's death and he even said that if Naruto didn't come to the rescue, he would have died. So what do you think would have happened if he battled Itachi. Oh and it's funny that you call me a fanboy after stating logical facts..

let's put it in this way: Kakashi chakra would be able to use them properly and he had some time training and improving in his bothmangekyou skills

 

[Bogard]

Like almost everyone said, there should be even more chakra issue but since now he has Kyubi's chakra, who knows?

 

[choft]

Yeah but that's like Obito at his 65%, because if he had both eyes, he'd be much stronger as he could use long distance techniques, and if Itachi could get susano and other techniques, maybe having both eyes could give you another special power, but it's not necessarily needed

True, but I don't see Kakashi warping away Minato. Minato has already proven that he can still react and teleport away even while he is being sucked away.

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Whether it's long distance or short distance, I don't see why it matters. Also, Kakashi can't Kamui something as big as a tailed beast, and he can't spam it like Obito because he doesn't have the Kyuubi's chakra this time.

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I still can't see Kakashi beating Minato.

With Itachi, I don't know what's faster, Kamui or Tsukyomi. We already know Kakashi can't handle Tsukyomi.

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Even with two eyes, I still don't see him countering Tsukyomi.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Like almost everyone said, there should be even more chakra issue but since now he has Kyubi's chakra, who knows?

minato fought the fox himself....sasuke fought fox naruto... that doesn't matter everyone so far that uses the fox power ends up losing, naruto, tht dude from tht movie, gin & kin, & neji, soon there will be more.

 

[Fecal Matter]

Like almost everyone said, there should be even more chakra issue but since now he has Kyubi's chakra, who knows?

So your telling me Naruto will hold his hand for his entire life? blasphemy.

 

[AGoodBoy]

yes.. mmh hmm.. yes yes.. I understand what you're saying.. Mmhh hmm.. I see..

Something tell me you're basing this off of kamui.

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No.

 

[King-Panda]

True, but I don't see Kakashi warping away Minato. Minato has already proven that he can still react and teleport away even while he is being sucked away.

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Whether it's long distance or short distance, I don't see why it matters. Also, Kakashi can't Kamui something as big as a tailed beast, and he can't spam it like Obito because he doesn't have the Kyuubi's chakra this time.

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I still can't see Kakashi beating Minato.

With Itachi, I don't know what's faster, Kamui or Tsukyomi. We already know Kakashi can't handle Tsukyomi.

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Even with two eyes, I still don't see him countering Tsukyomi.

If Kakashi mangekyou is applied on someone, part of that someone will go to another dimension and obvs cause a serious damage! Minato is very strong, but we have to say Obito could actually be more careful and analyse more. Minato wouldn't have hit obito with that rinnegan if obito had the long distance mangekyou.

minato fought the fox himself....sasuke fought fox naruto... that doesn't matter everyone so far that uses the fox power ends up losing, naruto, tht dude from tht movie, gin & kin, & neji, soon there will be more.

well sasuke fought the fox? I'd like to see sasuke fighting naruto full fox state or the fox at his 100% (minato fought it and removed half of it)...
But yeah minato is strong, but as i already said, he wouldnt hit obito with that rasengan if obito had the long distance mangekyou

 

[choft]

If Kakashi mangekyou is applied on someone, part of that someone will go to another dimension and obvs cause a serious damage! Minato is very strong, but we have to say Obito could actually be more careful and analyse more. Minato wouldn't have hit obito with that rinnegan if obito had the long distance mangekyou.

If Kakashi tries to Kamui Minato. Minato will do this.

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It will cause a little drain in Minato's chakra, but nothing more. Also, unlike Obito, Kakashi has crap stamina. So once he uses Kamui like 5 times, he is going to run out of chakra. Minato will simply outlast Kakashi through stamina.

As for Itachi, well if Kakashi gets hit by Tsukyomi, he loses.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

If Kakashi mangekyou is applied on someone, part of that someone will go to another dimension and obvs cause a serious damage! Minato is very strong, but we have to say Obito could actually be more careful and analyse more. Minato wouldn't have hit obito with that rinnegan if obito had the long distance mangekyou.



well sasuke fought the fox? I'd like to see sasuke fighting naruto full fox state or the fox at his 100% (minato fought it and removed half of it)...
But yeah minato is strong, but as i already said, he wouldnt hit obito with that rasengan if obito had the long distance mangekyou

he beat naruto 1 tails, and he suppressed its power.

 

[King-Panda]

If Kakashi tries to Kamui Minato. Minato will do this.

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It will cause a little drain in Minato's chakra, but nothing more. Also, unlike Obito, Kakashi has crap stamina. So once he uses Kamui like 5 times, he is going to run out of chakra. Minato will simply outlast Kakashi through stamina.

As for Itachi, well if Kakashi gets hit by Tsukyomi, he loses.

As I said to someone here, imagine that he had enough chakra and time to practise using those skills.

Well Minato wouldn't see it coming as it's instantaneous, it makes a king of black hole suddenly, obito takes a little more time. And when minato would try to hit kakashi, he would do the same as obito and the some parts of his body to another dimension. I am just mentioning sharingan abilities here, kakashi knows more than a thousand jutsus. And minato couldn't just be running around....

Well Kakashi wouldn't stand there wainting to that thing to hit him, as he could dodge, send his body to another dimension, etc... He is good analysing, so he wouldn't sit and wait itachi to do all the moves first

he beat naruto 1 tails, and he suppressed its power.

I know what you mean, but 4 tails (i guess, the one that fought oro) would be a lot for sasuke... But welll, we'll see another sasuke vs naruto, almost for certain

 

[choft]

As I said to someone here, imagine that he had enough chakra and time to practise using those skills.

Well Minato wouldn't see it coming as it's instantaneous, it makes a king of black hole suddenly, obito takes a little more time. And when minato would try to hit kakashi, he would do the same as obito and the some parts of his body to another dimension. I am just mentioning sharingan abilities here, kakashi knows more than a thousand jutsus. And minato couldn't just be running around....

Well Kakashi wouldn't stand there wainting to that thing to hit him, as he could dodge, send his body to another dimension, etc... He is good analysing, so he wouldn't sit and wait itachi to do all the moves first

Tbh, I don't think Kakashi will ever be able to spam Kamui. He isn't a Uchiha and therefore he will struggle to use anything involving a Sharingan.

I'm not sure what you mean by "Minato didn't see it coming". Minato didn't see it coming when Obito did to him in the manga. He had no idea what Kamui is and what the hell it was.

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It's obviously not instantaneous because otherwise Minato would have been sucked away by Obito in the manga, but he didn't. He had enough time to react and teleport away. And there is a reason we're mentioning Kakashi's MS abilities, it's because they're his strongest abilities. Why do you think there are so many people who wank over Kakashi recently? It's because of Kamui, that's it. Kakashi's thousand jutsus did nothing against Pain and Itachi, so why would it have any effect for Minato. Of those thousand jutsus, we've only seen like twenty of them. How many of them do you think are S rank jutsus? I wouldn't be surprised if most of them are C or D rank.

For Itachi, well I don't know what is faster, Kamui or Tsukyomi. It really depends on what is faster.

Btw, this is my final post, I'm going to bed as I'm tired. =)

 

[Amaterasuice]

Kakashi: I have both eyes no---owww! *cough cough*

*Kakashi dies of chakra exhaustion*.

Obito in hell: That's what happens when you mooch off my eye power fool!

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

hell no minato destroy Itachi

 

[TheCCV]

There's a reason he doesn't have 2. That's because it would cause too much strain, having them constantly active and not being able to deactivate them since he's not a natural born Uchiha.
But he would probably be above Minato since he's already on his level.