Itachi vs Orochimaru

[kaka96]

He only said that when he could not use his arms.

He said Itachi was too strong for him and that was why he left Akatsuki, he had his arm back then

 

[DevonV]

He said Itachi was too strong for him and that was why he left Akatsuki, he had his arm back then

No he did not. And if he did prove it to me.

 

[kaka96]

No he did not. And if he did prove it to me.

Alright , let me just remember what chapter it was

 

[kaka96]

First of all, this is when he got his butt kicked

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And that's when he said that Itachi is stronger than him and that's why he left "that organization" obviously referring to Akatsuki

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[DevonV]

First of all, this is when he got his butt kicked

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And that's when he said that Itachi is stronger than him and that's why he left "that organization" obviously referring to Akatsuki

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The only thing i can say is that Orochimaru said this when he had 0 use of his arms. And secondly when he said "that is why i left that organization" i may only have been because he could not take Itachi's body not because he was actually stronger. For example before Orochimaru was immobilized by Sasuke he had the chance to rip Sasuke's head of with would have resulted in Orochimaru winning. Any ways i realize that these are poor arguments.

But one of the reason that i think that Orochimaru can defeat Itachi, is predicated on the fact kabuto took on both Sasuke and Itachi and had kabuto known who he was he would have one. Also if Itachi was not an edo he would have died at least three time. And personally id don't see that much of a difference between kabuto (with Orochimaru's DNA)and Orochimaru.

So in a nut shell I still think that Orochimaru could defeat Itachi with out edo tensei as long as he dose not become cocky.

 

[kaka96]

The only thing i can say is that Orochimaru said this when he had 0 use of his arms. And secondly when he said "that is why i left that organization" i may only have been because he could not take Itachi's body not because he was actually stronger. For example before Orochimaru was immobilized by Sasuke he had the chance to rip Sasuke's head of with would have resulted in Orochimaru winning. Any ways i realize that these are poor arguments.

But one of the reason that i think that Orochimaru can defeat Itachi, is predicated on the fact kabuto took on both Sasuke and Itachi and had kabuto known who he was he would have one. Also if Itachi was not an edo he would have died at least three time. And personally id don't see that much of a difference between kabuto (with Orochimaru's DNA)and Orochimaru.

So in a nut shell I still think that Orochimaru could defeat Itachi with out edo tensei as long as he dose not become cocky.

Rechecked the fight
every time Itachi got killed, it was to protect Sasuke
Once was to create the loop of Izanami so it shouldn't be count, he just decided to let it part of the loop
The other one when under the sound Genjutsu is true, but Orochimaru doesn't have that Genjutsu

Saying that Kabuto= Orochimaru could perhaps be true in regular battle
But Kabuto is able to make himself resist to eye Genjutsu aka Itachi's strength. Something the Orochimaru can't

The use of Izanami would be useless against Oro tough

Orochimaru doesn't have all the attributes that Kabuto implanted in him either
He can't used the powers of the sound 5
He can't gather Nature energy like Kabuto can
HE can't access Karin's healing prowess and suigetsu damming resistance although he has better

 

[sage22]

The only thing i can say is that Orochimaru said this when he had 0 use of his arms. And secondly when he said "that is why i left that organization" i may only have been because he could not take Itachi's body not because he was actually stronger. For example before Orochimaru was immobilized by Sasuke he had the chance to rip Sasuke's head of with would have resulted in Orochimaru winning. Any ways i realize that these are poor arguments.

But one of the reason that i think that Orochimaru can defeat Itachi, is predicated on the fact kabuto took on both Sasuke and Itachi and had kabuto known who he was he would have one. Also if Itachi was not an edo he would have died at least three time. And personally id don't see that much of a difference between kabuto (with Orochimaru's DNA)and Orochimaru.

So in a nut shell I still think that Orochimaru could defeat Itachi with out edo tensei as long as he dose not become cocky.

First off if u are comparing a sage mode kabuto with the sound five abilities n orochimaru abilities in one body to regular orochimaru then everyone should know u have no knowledge of naruto.

 

[jetstream019]

This
And by Orochimaru's own admittance

that is also true my friend
i like icecream:ice:

 

[kaka96]

that is also true my friend
i like icecream:ice:

As do I:ice:

 

[PainIsGod]

I read in a post that someone said orochimaru was in a weaken state when itachi beat him but I do not recall that being the situation. If it is can someone tell me where that was stated in the manga.

He wasn't in a weakened state, Uchiha's are just his worst match-ups

 

[AnimeFan002]

As awesome as Oro is, Itachi destroys him.

 

[Myogen]

Orochimaru was handicapped against Itachi with the loss of his arms, but Itachi was hardly in prime condition ether. Both are Top Tier shinobi, the problem for Orochimaru is that Itachi seems to always have superior knowledge on Orochimaru. When they fought in the flashback Orochimaru didn't have any knowledge on how potent Itachi's Genjutsu was and this cost him his hand, which seemingly Orochimaru lacked his current regeneration powers to reattach.

In their second battle Orochimaru lacked knowledge of Totsuka Sword and Yata mirror, while Itachi knew about Yamata no Orochi and we all can tell how Orochimaru's lack of knowledge on the Totsuka sword caused his defeat in that match.

If we equalized the knowledge and put both of them at their best against each other I think the battle would be a-lot closer and could go ether way, with the ultimate outcome being decided by plot.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

A versus thread with Oro is pointless since he cannot die. Many may say that Itachi was stronger than Oro but look who's alive and who's dead. Itachi was killed by a disease while Oro got stabbed by Totsuka and STILL managed to survive. As Obito wisely said: "The real winner is the one who focuses on the future".

 

[Lilt]

A versus thread with Oro is pointless since he cannot die. Many may say that Itachi was stronger than Oro but look who's alive and who's dead. Itachi was killed by a disease while Oro got stabbed by Totsuka and STILL managed to survive. As Obito wisely said: "The real winner is the one who focuses on the future".

You're mistaking Orochimaru's power for virtue. His refusal to die is his character's weakness, not strength. Jiraiya, Itachi, and Minato all share a theme of defining themselves in how they choose to die for others, which is where they draw "true" power from. Orochimaru contrasts that perfectly, which is why he is "despicable" and weak. It's ultimately the reason Itachi easily defeated him as a child, and again as a dying adult.

 

[LeEvilTongue]

You're mistaking Orochimaru's power for virtue. His refusal to die is his character's weakness, not strength. Jiraiya, Itachi, and Minato all share a theme of defining themselves in how they choose to die for others, which is where they draw "true" power from. Orochimaru contrasts that perfectly, which is why he is "despicable" and weak. It's ultimately the reason Itachi easily defeated him as a child, and again as a dying adult.

In the ninja world, the one who survives is the one who is the strongest. Itachi can't defeat Orochimaru unless he can kill him for good. BTW Oro would problably rape Itachi now (if he was alive) due to ET Hokages and Hashi DNA to maintain control.

 

[Edo Odin]

In the ninja world, the one who survives is the one who is the strongest. Itachi can't defeat Orochimaru unless he can kill him for good. BTW Oro would problably rape Itachi now (if he was alive) due to ET Hokages and Hashi DNA to maintain control.

Lmao, good touch, using recently introduced techniques to post in a thread made months ago. >_>