About Kakashi's Kamui

[Zenic]

What is the largest thing Kakashi has kamuied (if that's the right word) without Kurama's chakra? And how many times has he used Kamui before it drained his chakra?

That should give the fanboys something to think about when they constantly say:

"Kakashi can Kamui all of Sasuke's amaterasu spams"

Please... :sy:

Not hating on Kakashi but he is no match for Sasuke without current power ups like Kurama's chakra.

He wouldn't be half the ninja he is today if it wasn't for the Sharingan Obito gave him.

Asuma > Kakashi without Sharingan. *Totally irrelevant though*

 

[Thee Beyonder]

You can say things about all characters and make them seem week when saying. "If it wasen't for" B4 you go Kakashi bashing Minato isn't that strong either

 

[uchihadesendent]

I think the largest thing he teleported was deidara's arm or himself not sure if he had kurama's chakra at that point or not!

 

[Ryuujinn]

Well im no expert but how did u know ? he might would have some different technique different chakra boost its totally BS to judge any char in that way

 

[Zenic]

You can say things about all characters and make them seem week when saying. "If it wasen't for" B4 you go Kakashi bashing Minato isn't that strong either

No, no.. I wasn't implying Kakashi is weak. Don't get me wrong, Kakashi is in top 20 if not 15 I only used that to make my argument, I just don't like seeing fanboys making such a loveable character into an argument.

My main point was that Kakashi can't kamui 20 Amaterasu spams. And about, Minato.. He isn't the strongest but he is strong. He beat 3 Tomoe Obito with Senju DNA, Kamui & all these other stuff while worrying about Kushina and Naruto.

You should read the thread another member made about Minato > MS Madara, quite convincing if I may say so myself.

 

[MisterX]

You can say things about all characters and make them seem week when saying. "If it wasen't for" B4 you go Kakashi bashing Minato isn't that strong either

I agree and for Minato "if it wasn't for" Kushina teaching him the Uzumaki seals Minato woudn't have teleportation or his sealing techs.

And Naruto if not for Kurama woudn't be on the same level, yes he might have have Sage mode but that hasn't done much compared to Kurama's chakra..


the same things can be said for every character and be true

 

[Thegreatflash]

What is the largest thing Kakashi has kamuied (if that's the right word) without Kurama's chakra? And how many times has he used Kamui before it drained his chakra?

That should give the fanboys something to think about when they constantly say:

"Kakashi can Kamui all of Sasuke's amaterasu spams"

Please... :sy:

Not hating on Kakashi but he is no match for Sasuke without current power ups like Kurama's chakra.

He wouldn't be half the ninja he is today if it wasn't for the Sharingan Obito gave him.

Asuma > Kakashi without Sharingan. *Totally irrelevant though*

lawlz -- no.

Have you ever heard a feat about kid asuma?? -- no? cause i sure haven't. While kakashi has the whole.. "Being in the most elite group of ninja before most kid's hit puberty", thing. Soo, since kid kakashi is clearly > kid asuma. The manga gives us no reason to believe that asuma randomly surpassed him over time.

 

[MinatoSensei]

Largest thing? I cannot really recall something of that stature. But as far as I can possibly remember,
during the Pein Arc didn't Kakashi kamui a missile away from Choji?

 

[Thee Beyonder]

No, no.. I wasn't implying Kakashi is weak. Don't get me wrong, Kakashi is in top 20 if not 15 I only used that to make my argument, I just don't like seeing fanboys making such a loveable character into an argument.

My main point was that Kakashi can't kamui 20 Amaterasu spams. And about, Minato.. He isn't the strongest but he is strong. He beat 3 Tomoe Obito with Senju DNA, Kamui & all these other stuff while worrying about Kushina and Naruto.

You should read the thread another member made about Minato > MS Madara, quite convincing if I may say so myself.

Minato can't get throught Susanoo so any Ms user with that ability is out of the question for Minato to beat + Im pretty sure we know he can't beat Ems Sasuke

 

[MisterX]

No, no.. I wasn't implying Kakashi is weak. Don't get me wrong, Kakashi is in top 20 if not 15 I only used that to make my argument, I just don't like seeing fanboys making such a loveable character into an argument.

My main point was that Kakashi can't kamui 20 Amaterasu spams. And about, Minato.. He isn't the strongest but he is strong. He beat 3 Tomoe Obito with Senju DNA, Kamui & all these other stuff while worrying about Kushina and Naruto.

You should read the thread another member made about Minato > MS Madara, quite convincing if I may say so myself.

As for Minato beating "3 Tomoe Obito with Senju DNA, Kamui & all these other stuff".. lets not forget that Obito didn't use any atack..

He just ran trough him a couple of times.. that's it!

no 3 Sharingan used, no Senju DNA and Wood Style used, no Fire style used, no Earth style used,

+ Obito was worrying about controling Kurama, I mean grown Rinnegan + Sharingan Obito coudn't use tehcs because he controlled the 6 tailed beasts, what to say about 13-14 year old obito controling the strongest beast with only a sharingan..

So don't say thing about beating or not, just because Obito decided it's not worth it in the big picture of Madaras plan

 

[garas56]

What is the largest thing Kakashi has kamuied (if that's the right word) without Kurama's chakra? And how many times has he used Kamui before it drained his chakra?

That should give the fanboys something to think about when they constantly say:

"Kakashi can Kamui all of Sasuke's amaterasu spams"

Please... :sy:

Not hating on Kakashi but he is no match for Sasuke without current power ups like Kurama's chakra.

He wouldn't be half the ninja he is today if it wasn't for the Sharingan Obito gave him.

Asuma > Kakashi without Sharingan. *Totally irrelevant though*

Do not ever say that about Kakashi
In fight against 7 Swordsmens he used many powers for sure two....Raikiri on zabuza But he hited haku and raikiri ond zabuza

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Kakashis rampage on Swordsmens

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1.thunder slash

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2.Ligting chain

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3.lIGHTING CHAIN ON mazou hand

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4.kamui 1st time

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5.RAIKIRI TO CUT THE ROCKS and save Naruto

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6.Kamui Kunai

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7.kamui rasengan and hited Tobi hand

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8.Kamui Naruto clone

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9.Doton doryuuhek

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10.Kamui to warp from dimension

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11.Raikiri to prevent Obito from absorbing Naruto into dimension

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12.Kakashi uses raikiri on mazou Hand

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13.Kakashi is filled with Powre by kurama and droped into obito

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14.Kamui from the dimension

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15.Kamui gyuki into dimension

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16.Kamui the gyuki and bee from the dimensiuo into juubi

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He is strong Without Kamui if he can cut Mazou Hand with raikiri So Kakashi>Many charakters even without Sharingun he wuld be much stronger than he is now.......

 

[Aertes]

I believe he used Kamui 6-7 times before he got a boost up from Kurama.By saying Kurama's chakra made his kamui 3 times stronger I believe it's safe to conclude,with his normal chakra, that he could kamui something on the size of 1/3 of a biju.He also seemed to be able to kamui Gedo's head before Obito interfere.
I think you forget that Kakashi was jounin when he was 13 without the sharingan and much more of a ninja that any other character was on that age.
This logic "if he didn't have this he would be a fodder" is idiotic.
Not to mention that Kakashi,unlike other Uchiha's, doesn't rely on sharingan this much.

 

[YellowFlash1]

Kakashi could have 1 eye, leg and arm missing and still beat Asuma!

He was a talented individual since child hood. He would still be an incredible ninja without sharingan, because he would developed himself without it, wither as if as been developing the ability to use the sharingan since he got it.

He's the best overall rounded Ninja in Naruto.

 

[Thee Beyonder]

I made that thread ^.^

Read the whole thread about Minato vs MS Madara, the starting distance was 50 metres. Minato instantly throws a marked Kunai, FTG & Rasengan spam to Madara. He won't even get a chance to use Susano'o

Madara losing to a speed blitz Rasengan

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[Holy Cross]

What is the largest thing Kakashi has kamuied (if that's the right word) without Kurama's chakra? And how many times has he used Kamui before it drained his chakra?

That should give the fanboys something to think about when they constantly say:

"Kakashi can Kamui all of Sasuke's amaterasu spams"

Please... :sy:

Not hating on Kakashi but he is no match for Sasuke without current power ups like Kurama's chakra.

He wouldn't be half the ninja he is today if it wasn't for the Sharingan Obito gave him.

Asuma > Kakashi without Sharingan. *Totally irrelevant though*

Let me stop you there

 

[Thegreatflash]

As for Minato beating "3 Tomoe Obito with Senju DNA, Kamui & all these other stuff".. lets not forget that Obito didn't use any atack..

He just ran trough him a couple of times.. that's it! no 3 Sharingan used, no Senju DNA and Wood Style used, no Fire style used, no Earth style used, + Obito was worrying about controling Kurama, I mean grown Rinnegan + Sharingan Obito coudn't use tehcs because he controlled the 6 tailed beasts, what to say about 13-14 year old obito controling the strongest beast with only a sharingan..

Gah -- will the haters never end? -_-

The fight was quick.

How many fights have you ever seen any versatile shinobi, pour out ALL their moves in the like -- 5 minutes it took obito to get beat?

Did kakashi even use all the moves he had at the time in his like 2 long fights against zabuza?

or let's be more resent -- had deidera OR sasuke used ALL their skills in the time it took obito to lose?

Kakazu? choiji? (v.s. the sound 5 guy in part one).. no. It's not, hey i'm fighting a dude, and i have 198 diffrent techs. lol, let me see how fast i can spam them all off on him

He said it himself, It was a contest of speed. Obito lost on his best attribute. That's like tsunade losing a fight because she was out-powered and then you complaining that she didn't summon her frog, Itachi being out-genjutsu'ed and you saying he would have won with amateratsu, someone spamming more weapons than ten-ten and you saying troll fight because she didn't use substitution... see my point?

 

[Meekz89]

He kamui'ed Sasuke Susanoo Arrow, that was powerful and fast.

 

[Liquid Snake]

kakashi cant use kamui that many times with nine tails chakra. and for those saying minato isnt that strong i doubt to many ppl can fight tobi and the nine tails even hashi realized kurama was very OP itachi would die against tobi and the nine tails easily and 4 the guy who says naruto wouldnt be shit w/o kurama plz tell me what would sasuke be if he wasnt a uchiha? a chidori spamming lame lol

 

[Rewmac]

He kamui'ed Sasuke Susanoo Arrow, that was powerful and fast.

He did do that, but he would be able to constantly keep that up. If Sasuke would have been full powered and not half blind Kakashi would have felt it how much of a difference there is currently between them. Sure Kakashi is smarter, but he just couldn't really take on a full powered Susanno'o.

 

[Thegreatflash]

O.t. There was deidera's bomb before the arrow. I can only remember ever seeing it in the anime, but i'm fairly certain it's canon (in the manga somewhere)