What about the Minor Villages?

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Read Onoki's words at the bottom of the panel.
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He talks about uniting all the scattered villages together in order to get rid of hatred between the villages.



This scan talks about the concept of winners and losers.
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Basically, the minor countries are the losers in the shinobi world while the major ones are the winners. Tobi was able to manipulate Nagato into thinking he awakened the Rinnegan in order to be the saviour of the minor villages. There are probably many more people like Nagato who can get stirred into fighting the major villages.




The following scans are a conversation between the Deva Path and Tsunade. Through the Deva Path, Nagato tells Tsunade that the minor villages have been oppressed by the major ones.
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This basically tells us that shinobi from these minor villages resent the major ones and there may be many others like Nagato who want revenge against these established villages.



In the following panels, Pain tells Hidan what the Akatsuki's objective is and why they are doing what they are doing.
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Nagato tells Hidan that the era of peace has caused misery among the minor villages more so than the five major villages because the lack of war means there isn't a need for many shinobi. There aren't that many missions that need to be done so the only ones that need to be done are done by shinobi from the bigger villages because those villages are better funded and more reputable. Due to the lack of demand for services from shinobi, the minor villages aren't able to sustain the population and strength of their respective villages which allow them to be exploited by the five major ones.



In the scan below, if you read the bottom left corner, you will see a grass symbol.
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Nagato's village, Amegakure, is only one of many of these minor villages as you can see there is another village right next to it, called the Grass Village, and it does not belong to one of the Five Great Nations. It was mentioned in the manga twice.



Once during the Kakashi Gaiden Arc where it was said that the Hidden Rock Village invaded the Grass village.
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This gives us additional information that the Grass Village was no different from the Rain Village as both of them were invaded by at least one of the major five villages. It is very likely that there are more minor villages like these that have shinobi who seek vengeance in retaliation for their misery.



It was mentioned by Kabuto during the chunin exams, of two other villages, the and the grass village.
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If you click the link, it shows us that Takigakure (Water Fall Village) was originally the same village that forced Kakuzu into assassinating Hashirama which shows they had hostilities with Konoha.



Now there are a in the Naruto Verse although most of them are probably just filler.

As the series went on, we see that more and more villages became united. Also even the main villains (Obito and Madara) want to merge the world into one under the Moon Eye Plan.

So here are the questions: Do you guys think that Kishi should have shown us these minor villages more often in the manga?

Do you think we will learn more about them in the manga's future such as flashbacks, etc?

Will all the shinobi villages be merged together as one by the end of the story?
 
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I agree that it would be very interesting to learn more in depth about these 'minor' villages.
 

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I don't see Kishi going into great detail about those minor villages unless they directly impact the plot somehow. Amegakure would've never shown up had Pein not been a Primary Antagonist in Part II
 

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I don't see Kishi going into great detail about those minor villages unless they directly impact the plot somehow. Amegakure would've never shown up had Pein not been a Primary Antagonist in Part II
There may be others just like Nagato who want revenge on the main villages. Sasuke may exploit their vengeful feelings and go to war with the Five Great Nations who are now all allied with Konoha.
Thats why they are called 'minor' villages.
They may have a role in the manga during the future. The Five Great Nations will be militarily weakened by the end of the Fourth Great Shinobi War which will give a chance for the minor villages to become stronger, flourish or allow them to stand up against the same villages that used to exploit them.
 

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Nice job. However, Konoha "WAS" and now "IS" the bridge of peace.

Hiruzen/Danzo basically made it hell and the oppression under Hiruzen's reign against those countries was horrible.

Naruto and Tsunade however..... different story.
 

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I think there was a rage thread about this on a different forum but yeah it's pretty weird. Apparently Sasuke went through two cities but they were barren.. so either the ninja actually are in the army or they're simply being treated as neutral in the entire thing. What do you think on the idea of Sasuke rallying up the lesser villages to fight the shinobi alliance? Basically stemming back from when Suigetsu freed the prisoners and told them to tell of Sasuke's greatness. Sasuke might try making his own system and point out all the flaws of the Will of Fire and the rest of their philosophies (he runs parallel the hawk, a symbol of great insight in Japanese culture if I'm correct). Then Naruto will have to truly convince the world that his beliefs are the right way.
 

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I think there was a rage thread about this on a different forum but yeah it's pretty weird. Apparently Sasuke went through two cities but they were barren.. so either the ninja actually are in the army or they're simply being treated as neutral in the entire thing. What do you think on the idea of Sasuke rallying up the lesser villages to fight the shinobi alliance? Basically stemming back from when Suigetsu freed the prisoners and told them to tell of Sasuke's greatness. Sasuke might try making his own system and point out all the flaws of the Will of Fire and the rest of their philosophies (he runs parallel the hawk, a symbol of great insight in Japanese culture if I'm correct). Then Naruto will have to truly convince the world that his beliefs are the right way.
That was my whole idea. Despite everyone thinking the manga is going to end soon, there are still a lot of unexplored territory. Maybe a fanfic could be made if Kishi decides to end the manga prematurely. I did theorize that Sasuke should rally the minor villages against the now weaker main villages. They have probably lost over half their military strength by now so I believe the minor nations may now be even stronger than the major ones. This also has important implications on world affairs because the balance of power will now shift.
 

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I would deffinatly say that the smaller villages should have been better included into the story...at the very least they should have fought in the war...I mean the first thing I wondered was, "Where are the Waterfall and Rain shinobi?" Seeing how Konan, the defacto leader of the Rain, was basically now Naruto's ally, I'd think her shinobi would do something.

Also, when Mei is walking with that Land of Snow or whatever random countries fuedal lord, I was wondering where his shinobi or people were at?!

Placing in the smaller villages in the story would have better helped us to truly see and feel that jealousy/hatred, and make the cycle of hatred more readily noticable.

Probably by the stories end, some sort of world govenrment will likely be made....and I can imagine that there will be some lobbying for samller villages. In additon, probably shinobi being kept to act like the UN Armed forces in order to help protect the United Villages from attacks by any of the Villages that try to continue resisting a world order, or are simply lashing out in anger.
 

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That was my whole idea. Despite everyone thinking the manga is going to end soon, there are still a lot of unexplored territory. Maybe a fanfic could be made if Kishi decides to end the manga prematurely. I did theorize that Sasuke should rally the minor villages against the now weaker main villages. They have probably lost over half their military strength by now so I believe the minor nations may now be even stronger than the major ones. This also has important implications on world affairs because the balance of power will now shift.
I can just imagine Sasuke allowing anybody on the alliance to join his cause and having one of the Konoha rookies step out of the Alliance to join his side. But meh I don't think anybody actually fits the role except for Sakura if her intentions were to betray Sasuke. It's too bad Kishimoto already used that card.. would have been far better in this scenario IMO
 

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Yea, i think we should learn more about these villages and reading the pages with pain makes me not like konoha and other big villages even more....

And nice theory to Drakengard as well.
 

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I would deffinatly say that the smaller villages should have been better included into the story...at the very least they should have fought in the war...I mean the first thing I wondered was, "Where are the Waterfall and Rain shinobi?" Seeing how Konan, the defacto leader of the Rain, was basically now Naruto's ally, I'd think her shinobi would do something.

Also, when Mei is walking with that Land of Snow or whatever random countries fuedal lord, I was wondering where his shinobi or people were at?!

Placing in the smaller villages in the story would have better helped us to truly see and feel that jealousy/hatred, and make the cycle of hatred more readily noticable.

Probably by the stories end, some sort of world govenrment will likely be made....and I can imagine that there will be some lobbying for samller villages. In additon, probably shinobi being kept to act like the UN Armed forces in order to help protect the United Villages from attacks by any of the Villages that try to continue resisting a world order, or are simply lashing out in anger.
I agree. I've only read up to chapter 140 in Once Piece yet I think I've seen more villages in that manga compared to Naruto. I would have also liked to see the Akatsuki fight all seven jinchuriki. Maybe we will see Kakuzu's village in Hashirama's flashback? As for the feudal lords, their role in the story has been virtually non existent and they are pretty lame even though they are supposed to be the civilian leaders of the various countries.
I can just imagine Sasuke allowing anybody on the alliance to join his cause and having one of the Konoha rookies step out of the Alliance to join his side. But meh I don't think anybody actually fits the role except for Sakura if her intentions were to betray Sasuke. It's too bad Kishimoto already used that card.. would have been far better in this scenario IMO
I thought it would be nice if Suigetsu recruits six others to recreate the Seven Ninja Swordsmen. Maybe Choujuro defects but I doubt it since he is supposed to impress Mei and going with his character, he is a pure good guy so he isn't joining Suigetsu. I want Taka to do something relevant since they have potential such as Juugo learning snake sage mode.
 

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I agree. I've only read up to chapter 140 in Once Piece yet I think I've seen more villages in that manga compared to Naruto. I would have also liked to see the Akatsuki fight all seven jinchuriki. Maybe we will see Kakuzu's village in Hashirama's flashback? As for the feudal lords, their role in the story has been virtually non existent and they are pretty lame even though they are supposed to be the civilian leaders of the various countries.

I thought it would be nice if Suigetsu recruits six others to recreate the Seven Ninja Swordsmen. Maybe Choujuro defects but I doubt it since he is supposed to impress Mei and going with his character, he is a pure good guy so he isn't joining Suigetsu. I want Taka to do something relevant since they have potential such as Juugo learning snake sage mode.

I agree, nice theory:D
 

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I agree, nice theory:D
I actually had an even bigger fan fiction inside my head about Taka becoming more relevant and powerful in the future of the manga. They could really further the plot.

I had this crazy theory where Sasuke takes control of whatever remains of the Sound Village and uses the scroll to revive the Uchiha clan. Then he'd go to all the minor villages and get people to side with him in his quest of revenge. To gain their support, he'd promise to attack the other major countries now allied with Konoha. I also theorized that Suigetsu would recruit six others and reform the Seven Ninja Swordsmen. Then Juugo would gain DSM and he'd become a formidable opponent too.

In theory, Taka can have successfully take over the world under Sasuke's rule because now that the Shinobi villages have lost a lot of shinobi, it would be easy to attack them since their military force is now at their lowest.
 

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I actually had an even bigger fan fiction inside my head about Taka becoming more relevant and powerful in the future of the manga. They could really further the plot.

I had this crazy theory where Sasuke takes control of whatever remains of the Sound Village and uses the scroll to revive the Uchiha clan. Then he'd go to all the minor villages and get people to side with him in his quest of revenge. To gain their support, he'd promise to attack the other major countries now allied with Konoha. I also theorized that Suigetsu would recruit six others and reform the Seven Ninja Swordsmen. Then Juugo would gain DSM and he'd become a formidable opponent too.

In theory, Taka can have successfully take over the world under Sasuke's rule because now that the Shinobi villages have lost a lot of shinobi, it would be easy to attack them since their military force is now at their lowest.

Why dont you create your fanfic. It seems awesome!I would love to read it:D
 

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Anyway I added one more panel to prove my point.

The concept of winners and losers first philosophized by Madara was used by Obito to manipulate Nagato into forming the Akatsuki.

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