Hidan vs Sasori

[Obito3631]

He doesn't literally open the hatch until the arm loaded with dozens of senbon are propelled at Hidan.
The tail is more or less a deterrent against recklessly running towards Sasori. He's fast, but also cocky.

youre forgetting that sasori has no intel on hidan he will go all out at the beginning thinking his poison would kill him and quickly run out of ammos.

 

[Pekoms]

youre forgetting that sasori has no intel on hidan he will go all out at the beginning thinking his poison would kill him and quickly run out of ammos.

What are you talking about? Pretty sure he knew, given that Kisame called Hidan part of the Zombie Combo.
Sasori has been a member much longer than Hidan, he's bound to know about Kakuzu's fits of rage and the "solution".

By that logic, when Sasori begins to open the hatch, Hidan won't have the faintest idea as to what is occurring.

 

[Obito3631]

What are you talking about? Pretty sure he knew, given that Kisame called Hidan part of the Zombie Combo.
Sasori has been a member much longer than Hidan, he's bound to know about Kakuzu's fits of rage and the "solution".

By that logic, when Sasori begins to open the hatch, Hidan won't have the faintest idea as to what is occurring.

thats pure speculation on your part, akatsuki members only hold information about their partners.

hidan is a jackass he would just rush into him blindly he doesnt care and besides he will surely see him getting out of Hiruko.

 

[Pekoms]

thats pure speculation on your part, akatsuki members only hold information about their partners.

hidan is a jackass he would just rush into him blindly he doesnt care and besides he will surely see him getting out of Hiruko.

That's clearly not true on your part. Kisame shouldn't have been able to call Hidan and Kakuzu the Zombie Combo then.
See? The dozens of senbon flying at him would force him to turn or dodge or block. He can be blinded if they hit his eyes.

 

[Obito3631]

That's clearly not true on your part. Kisame shouldn't have been able to call Hidan and Kakuzu the Zombie Combo then.
See? The dozens of senbon flying at him would force him to turn or dodge or block. He can be blinded if they hit his eyes.

told you its useless if sasori opens up hiruko then hidan can just throw his scythe and it will hit him from above

 

[Pekoms]

told you its useless if sasori opens up hiruko then hidan can just throw his scythe and it will hit him from above

So Hidan's fine with being blinded by Senbon? He's not going to know what the canister does, it will surprise him.
Again, Hidan can be blinded by the senbon and must therefore, be careful to avoid any that can reach his eyes.

Sasori isn't exactly slow given he's got a 4.5 for speed in the databook. He's going to hustle getting out of Hiruko.

 

[ItachiStyle]

while this is definitely Sasori, let's please not invent abilities for Sasori (like sand clones), or make claims about what how his poison can overcome regen (we have no such proof. It doesn't matter here of course, because Hidan doesn't have regen per se, but it's still dangerous to make such points... I don't doubt Tsunade for instance would be unaffected by Sasori's poison).

 

[Obito3631]

So Hidan's fine with being blinded by Senbon? He's not going to know what the canister does, it will surprise him.
Again, Hidan can be blinded by the senbon and must therefore, be careful to avoid any that can reach his eyes.

Sasori isn't exactly slow given he's got a 4.5 for speed in the databook. He's going to hustle getting out of Hiruko.

oh btw, in vs fights its either both have intel on eachothers or no intel at all it cant be a one sided battle because otherwise it would be unfair.

you said sasori would be using his tail to keep hidan away while hes opening hiruko but you never mentioned the senbon.

 

[ItachiStyle]

The fight still ends in the opening seconds. Sasori grabs Hidan with Chakra strings. Being faster than Hidan (who admits he is the slowest in Akatsuki), Sasori will have a new dancing bear before Hidan can do anything, and once he's on strings, it's over. He won't even need Hiruko (who would beat Hidan), or the 3rd Kazekage (who would beat Hidan), or his own puppet body (which would beat Hidan).

 

[Pekoms]

oh btw, in vs fights its either both have intel on eachothers or no intel at all it cant be a one sided battle because otherwise it would be unfair.

you said sasori would be using his tail to keep hidan away while hes opening hiruko but you never mentioned the senbon.

I've repeatedly mentioned the senbon, five out of six of my last posts have included the canister loaded with senbon.
Going by manga knowledge, it doesn't really help Hidan. There's no reason to believe he knows about Sasori's real body.

• given that Sasori has always been shown attending all the meetings whilst inside Hiruko

It's perfectly fair. Sasori was a senior member of Akatsuki and Hidan was recruited specifically for his immortality.

As for ItachiStyle, please pay attention. Sand Clones was anime only, I was corrected. No one said he could regenerate.

 

[Obito3631]

The fight still ends in the opening seconds. Sasori grabs Hidan with Chakra strings. Being faster than Hidan (who admits he is the slowest in Akatsuki), Sasori will have a new dancing bear before Hidan can do anything, and once he's on strings, it's over. He won't even need Hiruko (who would beat Hidan), or the 3rd Kazekage (who would beat Hidan), or his own puppet body (which would beat Hidan).

he cant use chakra strings while inside hiruko fail, if sasori gets out hidan will slice him to pieces with his scythe.

 

[Obito3631]

I've repeatedly mentioned the senbon, five out of six of my last posts have included the canister loaded with senbon.
Going by manga knowledge, it doesn't really help Hidan. There's no reason to believe he knows about Sasori's real body.

• given that Sasori has always been shown attending all the meetings whilst inside Hiruko

It's perfectly fair. Sasori was a senior member of Akatsuki and Hidan was recruited specifically for his immortality.

As for Itachi Style, please pay attention. Sand Clones was anime only, I was corrected.

yes but youre not in a manga youre in the vs section and if theres a vs thread its either full intel or none for both characters.

Beside I doubt mere senbons would blind me rofl, a boulder once fell directly on his eye and it didnt blind him, hes immortal he can tank any injuries.

 

[Pekoms]

yes but youre not in a manga youre in the vs section and if theres a vs thread its either full intel or none for both characters.

Beside I doubt mere senbons would blind me rofl, a rock fell directly on his eye and it didnt blind him, hes immortal he can tank any injuries.

That's just not true, many threads give "manga intel" and regardless, knowledge doesn't help Hidan that much.
He still cannot hurt Sasori whilst in Hiruko, which is really nothing but speculation on your part, as you've admitted.

Your comparing a rock hitting his head to several metal needles being shot around, not exactly full of similarities.

 

[Obito3631]

That's just not true, many threads give "manga intel" and regardless, knowledge doesn't help Hidan that much.
He still cannot hurt Sasori whilst in Hiruko, which is really nothing but speculation on your part, as you've admitted.

Your comparing a rock hitting his head to several metal needles being shot around, not exactly full of similarities.

no in fact it was a boulder that fell directly on his eye and it didnt blind him, senbons wont either.
hidan can hurt him if he opens hiruko and thats what you suggested he would do.

 

[Pekoms]

no in fact it was a boulder that fell directly on his eye and it didnt blind him, senbons wont either.
hidan can hurt him if he opens hiruko and thats what you suggested he would do.

A large boulder isn't going to pierce his eye, a teenage Obito had much worse and his eye was still intact and useable.
If a senbon pierces his eye, he will see nothing. That is something he can "tank" but have repercussions for doing so.

 

[SadSasuke]

i dont think he can =3=

By your logic of the facts, I guess Kishimoto is a liar (sarcasm) because he and I know the same thing.

 

[Obito3631]

A large boulder isn't going to pierce his eye, a teenage Obito had much worse and his eye was still intact and useable.
If a senbon pierces his eye, he will see nothing. That is something he can "tank" but have repercussions for doing so.

alright nevertheless hidan will be able to dodge them and throw his scythe at him if he decides to open hiruko, sasori only has 1 senbon canon after he uses it its over.

 

[Pekoms]

alright nevertheless hidan will be able to dodge them and throw his scythe at him if he decides to open hiruko, sasori only has 1 senbon canon after he uses it its over.

One canister was loaded with dozens of senbon, it took Chiyo and Sakura more than a few seconds to dodge them all.
All Sasori has to do is swing the hatch open and jump out, Hidan is not fast enough to evade all the senbon and get him.

Hidan has the slowest moves and Sasori has a 4.5 in speed, the latter should be able to avoid the scythe once.
Hell, you've admitted that his scythe isn't really for cutting. He'd have to pinpoint the heart as Sasori emerges.

If he misses and even if it takes an arm off, Sassori can reconnect it to his body on a nothing but a whim.

 

[Obito3631]

One canister was loaded with dozens of senbon, it took Chiyo and Sakura more than a few seconds to dodge them all.
All Sasori has to do is swing the hatch open and jump out, Hidan is not fast enough to evade all the senbon and get him.

its not about speed its about agility, chiyo is an old crippled woman with 4 in speed and still managed to dodge them while controlling sakura at the same time, a gap of 0,5 is nothing. hidan is one of the most agile character in the series, with, (quoting from the databook) "tremendous acrobatic prowess" dodging his senbons won't be hard.he only has few senbons he isnt loaded with a shit load of them and hes only equipped with 1 senbon bomb even if hidan gets hit it wont harm him, so given that he his super agile it is very unlikely that he gets hit let alone that he gets hit in the eye.

 

[Pekoms]

its not about speed its about agility, chiyo is an old crippled woman with 4 in speed and still managed to dodge them while controlling sakura at the same time, a gap of 0,5 is nothing. hidan is one of the most agile character in the series, with, (quoting from the databook) "tremendous acrobatic prowess" dodging his senbons won't be hard.he only has few senbons he isnt loaded with a shit load of them and hes only equipped with 1 senbon bomb even if hidan gets hit it wont harm him, so given that he his super agile it is very unlikely that he gets hit let alone that he gets hit in the eye.

Your still expecting him to pinpoint a very small target, which isn't made any easier by Sasori being quite fast as it is.
He's not going to take the canister in stride and accurately hit such a small target, especially when his scythe is slow.

Your right, it's about agility and Hidan has admitted his attacks are slow.
If Hidan can dodge dozens of senbon, Sasori can dodge his scythe once, that's all he needs.