Hidan vs Sasori

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Then how exactly is Hidan going to win? If he can't get through that puppet than you've got nothing.
As for vital organs, can you list all of the affected organs? Last I checked, the brain is in fact an organ.

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Then how exactly is Hidan going to win? If he can't get through that puppet than you've got nothing.
As for vital organs, can you list all of the affected organs? Last I checked, the brain is in fact an organ.

yea i should have been more clear about the affected organs, as it was shown when sakura was healing kankuro, the poison was located in the upper body area, more precisely the lungs, the hearts and his arteries.

and as I said earlier Sasori has no way to kill Hidan while he's using Hiruko so he will eventually have to get out and use his real body.
hidan will seize that opportunity to engage him in close combat where sasori wont be able to defend himself.
 

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yea i should have been more clear about the affected organs, as it was shown when sakura was healing kankuro, the poison was slowly spreading through the upper body area, more precisely the lungs, the hearts and his arteries.

and as I said earlier Sasori has no way to kill Hidan while he's using Hiruko so he will eventually have to get out and use his real body.
hidan will seize that opportunity to engage him in close combat where sasori wont be able to defend himself.

Or... rather than give the enemy a perfect opportunity to attack, he could let Hidan break it, better yet:
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There's no reason as to why the first part wouldn't be plausible. Example: Kakashi let Zabuza cut him and he used it well.
Regardless, if that simple choice doesn't work, he can just restrain Hidan with Hiruko's tail and get out. Fairly simple.
 

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Or... rather than give the enemy a perfect opportunity to attack, he could let Hidan break it, better yet:
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There's no reason as to why the first part wouldn't be plausible. Example: Kakashi let Zabuza cut him and he used it well.
Regardless, if that simple choice doesn't work, he can just restrain Hidan with Hiruko's tail and get out. Fairly simple.

hidan simply cant break it, hisc scythe isnt made to break things or to use sheer and brute force to break things, its only purpose is to slice through human flesh to get the ennemy's blood. its good to by pass some defenses as well but he wouldnt be able to break Hiruko just by throwing it.

Sasori wouldnt be able to just restrain him , this was a puppet and it doesnt move by itself its way easier to grip than a human, not to mention Hidan is extremely agile he wouldnt let himself get caught, he couldnt even restrain Sakura.

Even if he did restrain him once he stops controlling the puppet hidan would be released from the grip so its no use.
 

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hidan simply cant break it, hisc scythe isnt made to break things or to use sheer and brute force to break things, its only purpose is to slice through human flesh to get the ennemy's blood. its good to by pass some defenses as well but it wouldnt break Hiruko just by throwing it.

Sasori wouldnt be able to just restrain him , this was a puppet and it doesnt move by itself its way easier to grip than a human, not to mention Hidan is extremely agile he wouldnt let himself get caught, he couldnt even restrain Sakura.

Given that Hidan apparently can't damage Hiruko's body, he can afford to be wreck-less and eventually ensnare Hidan.
Not exactly sure how a puppet would be easier to grip, flesh is easier to crush than wood or whatever they're made of.
Not to mention, Hidan wouldn't have comparable sight capacity. Kankuro was able to watch and manipulate his puppet.

Comparing Hidan to Sakura is ludicrous: (1) she was manipulated a lot by Chiyo and (2) her strength is much higher.
 

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Given that Hidan apparently can't damage Hiruko's body, he can afford to be wreck-less and eventually ensnare Hidan.
Not exactly sure how a puppet would be easier to grip, flesh is easier crush than any wood or whatever they're made of.
Not to mention, Hidan wouldn't have comparable sight capacity. Kankuro was able to watch and manipulate his puppet.

Comparing Hidan to Sakura is ludicrous: (1) she was manipulated a lot by Chiyo and (2) her strength is much higher.

sasori already knew kankuro strategy in advance, he created the puppet, how he managed to ensnare it is because he was reading through kankuro's game. it was stated several times.

again hidan is very agile he wouldnt let himself get caught, basically they will be playing around until sasori gets impatient and bored then he will try to get serious and get out of hiruko. and considering Hidan has an excptional stamina, he wont get exhausted or tired, that's for sure.
 
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sasori already knew kankuro strategy in advance, he created the puppet, how he managed to ensnare it is because he was reading through kankuro's game. it was stated several times.

again hidan is very agile he wouldnt let himself get caught, basically they will be playing around until sasori gets impatient and bored then he will try to get serious and get out of hiruko. and considering Hidan has an excptional stamina, he wont get exhausted until sasori gets out, that's for sure.

Let himself get caught? If all he does is run away than this isn't a fight. Also, Sasori can fool Hidan with a Sand Clone.
He can simply have Hiruko's hatch open and whilst Hidan attacks it, Sasori can get out of his puppet some distance away.
 

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Let himself get caught? If all he does is run away than this isn't a fight. Also, Sasori can fool Hidan with a Sand Clone.
He can simply have Hiruko's hatch open and whilst Hidan attacks it, Sasori can get out of his puppet some distance away.

Sasori can't make sand clones.
I already told you he has no evasion abilities whatsoever. Hidan is Sasori's worst match up.
 

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Sasori can't make sand clones.
I already told you he has no evasion abilities whatsoever. Hidan is Sasori's worst match up.

Your right about the first. Still, we don't know how long it'd take to get out of Hiruko. Beyond this is only speculation.
If the OP had included more details, it'd be easier to make a decision.​
 

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Your right about the first. Still, we don't know how long it'd take to get out of Hiruko. Beyond this is only speculation.

You see the shell with a face on it thats used a shield on top of Hiruko ? he will need to open it from the inside in order to get out, you just open it and you can close it back, this whole process will take longer than if hiruko got destroyed and he just slipped away, that will give hidan a massive advantage.

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But like you said, it can be opened from the inside. Hidan wouldn't know what's going on until it's already happened.
Not to mention, Hidan wants to avoid being particularly close to Hiruko as his scythe is useless and he can be restrained.
 

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But like you said, it can be opened from the inside. Hidan wouldn't know what's going on until it's already happened.
Not to mention, Hidan wants to avoid being particularly close to Hiruko as his scythe is useless and he can be restrained.

yes what do you mean by that? hidan will see it opening up and he will imediately start chasing him.
Again I was just speculating on the part where hidan scythe is useless against hiruko, it might be able to damage it, we can't be sure, hidan will surely try to attack sasori so he will be close enough.
 

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yes what do you mean by that? hidan will see it opening up and he will imediately start chasing him.
Again I was just speculating on the part where hidan scythe is useless against hiruko, it might be able to damage it, we can't be sure, hidan will surely try to attack sasori so he will be close enough.

All I said was he'd be able to open it, no need to get out right away. He can ward Hidan off with his tail and then get out.
Sasori could use the arm loaded with senbon as a distraction too, it'd at least surprise Hidan for a moment.
 

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The best thing Hidan can do to Hiruko punch holes on it. He does not have the sheer power nor is his weapon design to do that.
 

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All I said was he'd be able to open it, no need to get out right away. He can ward Hidan off with his tail and then get out.

you do realize sasori has to control his tail meaning if he stops controlling it and step out of hiruko the tail will automatically release its grip and free hidan? beside I already said hidan is agile enough to not get ensnared
 

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you do realize sasori has to control his tail meaning if he stops controlling it and step out of hiruko the tail will automatically release its grip and free hidan? beside I already said hidan is agile enough to not get ensnared

Come on. If Hidan continues to mindlessly and pointlessly attack Hiruko than he can be ensnared. The tail isn't slow.
Follow these few steps:
  1. Sasori uses his tail to ward Hidan off and at the same time, he releases the latches on the back of Hiruko
  2. he remains inside though, waiting for an opportune moment to remove himself from Hiruko
  3. the moment arrives when Hidan retreats away from the tail, he then launches the arm loaded with senbon
  4. given that the hatch is already open, Sasori quickly emerges whilst Hidan is distracted by the dozens of senbon
  5. Hidan must be careful because the senbon follow a sporadic but omnidirectional trajectory, his eyes are at risk
 
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Come on. If Hidan continues to mindlessly and pointlessly attack Hiruko than he can be ensnared. The tail isn't exactly slow.
Follow this:
  1. Sasori use his tail to ward Hidan off and at the same time, he releases the latches on the back of Hiruko
  2. he remains inside though, waiting for an opportune moment to remove himself from Hiruko
  3. that moment arrives when Hidan retreats a away from the tail, he then launches the arm loaded with senbon
  4. given that the hatch is already open, Sasori quickly emerges whilst Hidan is distracted by the dozens of senbon
  5. Hidan must be careful because the senpon follow a sporadic but omnidirectional trajectory, his eyes are at risk

This whole plan is bound to fail, if sasori opens hiruko from the top then hidan can easily extend and throw his scythe so it scratches him whiles hes still inside the puppet, and dodging the tail is extremely easy for hidan, again dont ignore the fact that hes very agile, he was able to fight asuma in mid air while throwing his scythe around WHILE evading shikamaru's shadow, trust me, Sasori's tail is a non factor here.
 

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This whole plan is bound to fail, if sasori opens hiruko from the top then hidan can easily extend and throw his scythe so it scratches him whiles hes still inside the puppet, and dodging the tail is extremely easy for hidan, again dont ignore the fact that hes very agile, he was able to fight asuma in mid air while throwing his scythe around WHILE evading shikamaru's shadow, trust me, Sasori's tail is a non factor here.

He doesn't literally open the hatch until the arm loaded with dozens of senbon are propelled at Hidan.
The tail is more or less a deterrent against recklessly running towards Sasori. He's fast, but also cocky.

There's no point in mentioning it scratching him, according to you, the scythe is useless whilst he's in Hiruko.
 
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