Plot hole !!!!!!

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

The main problem with Tobi being Obito is the fact that he supposedly created the Bloody Mist by forcing the graduation exam on them, but clearly the Bloody Mist existed before he became Tobi, so someone else must have started it. But seeing as how Madara and Zetsu did not have the means to operate a village from within their cave, there is really no way to explain it. If there are any plot holes in Naruto, this is the one.

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Anyone have any theories to explain this plot hole? My final question is how was Tobi able to control the Mizukage when he wasn't even following Madara's order's at the time and that Madara was hooked up to the gedo Mazou? Who wa the one controlling the 3rd Mizukage Yagura ?

 

[chad062388]

What chapter was this in, I don't remember reading it.

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

What chapter was this in, I don't remember reading it.

Chapter 605 page 7 haha MANGA FACTS > YOU lol just kidding

 

[hfuya]

After kakashi killed rin

 

[LazyNacho]

well read manga stream's, manga panda is never accurate

 

[NamikazeNagato]

Fail Thread. Madara could've easily been controlling the Hidden Mist. He somehow knew that Obito would be coming back and he was missing an eye which could possibly point to him using a Genjutsu on the Mizukage. One may not have to be present for a Genjutsu to be working, too. U_U

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

well read manga stream's, manga panda is never accurate

omg do not be ignorant even if the wording is a little different how can you explain the freakin mask its not like he is gonna say Dont underetimate the power of the Shitty Mist lol

 

[NamikazeNagato]

Plus, we don't know when the "Bloody" Mist was even established! this could've been years before him even finding Obito. Please, use some sense before you go screaming Plot Hole smh

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

Fail Thread. Madara could've easily been controlling the Hidden Mist. He somehow knew that Obito would be coming back and he was missing an eye which could possibly point to him using a Genjutsu on the Mizukage.

You sir ar a fail human being. Madara couldn't even move he was tied to the gedo Mazou and ofcours he knew Obito was gonna come back Madara is manipulative he controlled all the events that happened to his liking and how does it mean that just because he is missing an eye he put the mizukage under a genjustu he needs to make Some sort of contact with the person unless he has Komoamasukami which he dosent so all your reasonings have been TERMINATED thank and come again u GENIN lol jk

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

Plus, we don't know when the "Bloody" Mist was even established! this could've been years before him even finding Obito. Please, use some sense before you go screaming Plot Hole smh

OMG u ignorant fool the 5th Mizukage said the one behind the mask was Controlling the 4rd Mizukage into turning it into the Bloody Mist a quote from Narutopedia.com : Yagura (やぐら, Yagura) was the jinchūriki of Isobu, the Three-Tails, and the Fourth Mizukage (四代目水影, Yondaime Mizukage; Literally meaning "Fourth Water Shadow") of Kirigakure. When the Three-Tails was captured by Akatsuki, it had no host and roamed out in the wild. He was controlled by Tobi who could be called the "real" Fourth Mizukage.

You see rite there ^^^^^^^^

 

[NamikazeNagato]

You sir ar a fail human being. Madara couldn't even move he was tied to the gedo Mazou and ofcours he knew Obito was gonna come back Madara is manipulative he controlled all the events that happened to his liking and how does it mean that just because he is missing an eye he put the mizukage under a genjustu he needs to make Some sort of contact with the person unless he has Komoamasukami which he dosent so all your reasonings have been TERMINATED thank and come again u GENIN lol jk

Did you read my above response? Madara could've used this technique before even finding Obito. Honestly, it's not that hard to believe. There are only two possible outcomes for this.

A) Your right and it is a mistake by Kishi.
B) Madara put the Mizukage in a Genjutsu. Your point about him not having Kotoamatsukami (however you spell it) might be false as Ao, the advisor to the Mizukage said there might be a connection between the 4th Mizukage and the doujutsu used by Shisui. Either way, Madara managed to take control of the Nine Tails without Kotoamatsukami so...

And also ... the Mizukage only said that Tobi was the one controlling Yagura because

A) He claimed to be Madara. Of course he would have the power to do so if what he said was true.
B) There was no other alternative to pin the blame on.

And please calm down with the names.

 

[Sage OfThe 6 Paths]

Did you read my above response? Madara could've used this technique before even finding Obito. Honestly, it's not that hard to believe. There are only two possible outcomes for this.

A) Your right and it is a mistake by Kishi.
B) Madara put the Mizukage in a Genjutsu. Your point about him not having Kotoamatsukami (however you spell it) might be false as Ao, the advisor to the Mizukage said there might be a connection between the 4th Mizukage and the doujutsu used by Shisui. Either way, Madara managed to take control of the Nine Tails without Kotoamatsukami so...

The only outcome is A) That i am right quote from Narutopedia : Despite his tyrannical reign, the people of Kiri feared that Yagura was being manipulated,[5] a fear which was confirmed by Ao, who saw through genjutsu with the Byakugan he later acquired,[6] later identified by Kisame as Obito's doing.[7] and Madara put the kyuubi under genjustu becuz he was in contact with him

 

[NamikazeNagato]

Okay ... so obviously, there was a Bloody Mist while Obito was working under Madara. That is fact, Kishimoto put it in the chapter this thread is about. They were after Rin or something inside her --- whatever. Madara had said that Obito would be coming back to him, in fact, he was so sure of this that it is infinitely suspect. We don't know what Madara was doing before rescuing Obito from the rocks.

Since you like to quote Narutopedia so much, here; "However, it should be noted that before Obito took control of Yagura, the village was already reputed as the "Bloody Mist".[8]

Now this is very simple. Madara had already put the Mizukage under the Genjutsu. He does not need to be there constantly to keep her under it. Also, he does not need Kotoamatsukami as he managed to control the Nine Tails with his regular sharingan.

Obito took over Madara's role of controlling Mizugakure after he died. Kisame verified this when Obito showed him his face and in the flashback. Ao only discovered the Mizukage was under a Genjutsu after Obito had left the village. Even if he discovered it during Obito's time there, he could of easily slipped away.

Also, saying Ao linked the Genjutsu specifically to Tobi does not diminish my theory at all. A Genjustu after the caster died still being in effect is probably not probable at all. Tobi could've easily reinstated the illusion, afterall, he did control the Kyuubi using a three-tomoe Sharingan.

 

[NamikazeNagato]

Done here? Good

 

[Blackie Chan]

Obito lied and said he was madara, also lied to sasuke, just because a character says something doesn't make it true. Kakashi says the sage doesn't exist and the rinnegan is a mutation. Maybe the mist just called themselves the blood most village and then obito made that happen after he secretly controlled the mizukage out of revenge. There is so much that hasn't been revealed that to even search for plot holes is kinda dumb.

 

[TheSyren]

Fail much? Obito is a liar. Besides, wrong section to post in.

 

[Ghan]

345 posts and he still doesnt know where to post this.


Smh, and then has the nerve to call somebody else a fail of a person

 

[TheSyren]

Lol, you bad talking me Ghan? Wait! We should rp in here!

 

[Ghan]

Lol, you bad talking me Ghan? Wait! We should rp in here!

I'm talking about that Sage of 6 paths dude lol

And yes!!!

-Ghan destroys Planet Xenon-

"Syren, why are we so powerful?"