Kabuto & Tobi genuinely DESERVED to win this war.

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Good thing you'r input in the Manga don't count, or it all be a nightmare for freedom lovers,waisting you'r life in a Dream control by someone else.

Um okay.... I'm just saying their tactics were better than the Alliances' - not that the whole thing is morally right...jeez.
 

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I mean, just because you put the most prep time into an event doesn't necessarily mean you deserve to win. This being said, I do believe that they did get a little trolled. I personally believe that Kabuto should joined the battle field after raising Madara, as he really didn't have any other people to resurrect (because he didn't have to control Madara, and by that time, there were few he actually had to control), and his sage mode fighting style would demolish a good chunk of the alliance since Kabuto at that time is only really weak to Izanami. (though there are other ways he might have lost, who knows)
 

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Shin, Deidara, Sasori, 4th kazekage, Itachi ETC. Giving them their personalities

Again, these were just all Kabuto messing around. He's awesomely twisted and likes to mess around with people's feelings. He aimed Asuma, Shin, Hanzo, Nagato and the 4th Kazekage all at people who knew them and loved/respected them. Kabuto likes playing with this and it momentarily gave him the advantage in shock tactics. The guy was just having fun. Chouji couldn't bring himself to fight Asuma and occurences like that most likely happened around the battlefield. It ultimately resulted in them being sealed but it's hardly as if Asuma and Shin were his biggest pawns to begin with- the guys just messing around.

Itachi though, that WAS stupid. He should've removed his personality right at the start. But y'know plooooooooooooooooooot~
 

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I mean, just because you put the most prep time into an event doesn't necessarily mean you deserve to win. This being said, I do believe that they did get a little trolled. I personally believe that Kabuto should joined the battle field after raising Madara, as he really didn't have any other people to resurrect (because he didn't have to control Madara, and by that time, there were few he actually had to control), and his sage mode fighting style would demolish a good chunk of the alliance since Kabuto at that time is only really weak to Izanami. (though there are other ways he might have lost, who knows)

Kabuto is a survivor. He likes a bit of bloodshed but he's not too arrogant or reckless to just jump into a war. He's best working from the shadows, though you're right- if he tried he could've taken out more ninja than all the Edo combined :'D
 

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things are not fair enough for the villans lol
 

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Lol I know right, what was Tobi thinking? That guy is cocky. Especially as he didn't even know about Madara....did he think he could take out the alliance with one new rinnegan and some even weaker Zetsu? seriously?

he would have lured naruto and bee out with the zetsu and that was all he needed really. his whole plan wasnt to win the war, but to capture the last jinchuuriki. and he would have made it too were it not for kakashi figuring him out
 

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he would have lured naruto and bee out with the zetsu and that was all he needed really. his whole plan wasnt to win the war, but to capture the last jinchuuriki. and he would have made it too were it not for kakashi figuring him out

That's still a HUGE risk! Did you see how weak the zetsus were without Yamato? The alliance would've probably destroyed them all even if they did have the shapeshifting ability. There wasn't enough firepower for the Alliance to be in any actual threat. The only problems are Tobi himself and the 'name' of Madara Uchiha to scare them all into war.
 

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how is it unfair for naruto to speed into each battle field its a war and naruto had the ability to do so. also all is far in love and war as they say. like i could say its unfair that kabuto is able to summon that many edos all at once and i dont think they deserved to win also it sounds like you underestimate all 5 nations the fact is these are all deceased ninja from the 5 nations village so they will have knowledge of most ninja and be able counter them also kabuto got way to full of himself to rthe point he overestimated his own abilitys to the point he thought he and his edos where unbeatable
 

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how is it unfair for naruto to speed into each battle field its a war and naruto had the ability to do so. also all is far in love and war as they say. like i could say its unfair that kabuto is able to summon that many edos all at once and i dont think they deserved to win also it sounds like you underestimate all 5 nations the fact is these are all deceased ninja from the 5 nations village so they will have knowledge of most ninja and be able counter them also kabuto got way to full of himself to rthe point he overestimated his own abilitys to the point he thought he and his edos where unbeatable

I'm not saying it was, i'm just saying that the plot called in and defeated the villains. Because it's a story and not real life. Naruto fairly defeated everyone he came across but this thread is about admiring the tactics that Kabuto had, not how strong Naruto is.

Also Kabuto did not get cocky at any point, he sat back and played the war out smartly. He knew the kage weren't invincible but they weren't the only attacking force on the battlefield. There was also the enormous Zetsu army, the Jinchuuriki, Tobi, The Gedo Mazu and a free Madara out there to also deal with.

I'm also NOT underestimating the 5 nations, anything but. Their tactics were NOT good! They literally just split everyone up into a few groups and started blindly attacking anything they saw with ONE GUY Shikaku as a strategist! They didn't look ahead or try to second guess anything- their formations were pretty thrown together and they dealt with problems as they happened (which in the Zetsu clone case, was too late.) The Kage got tricked into entering the battlefield too early and were then destroyed. They played this war well.
 

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Lol I know right, what was Tobi thinking? That guy is cocky. Especially as he didn't even know about Madara....did he think he could take out the alliance with one new rinnegan and some even weaker Zetsu? seriously?

I forgot all about Kabuto powering up Zetsu with that Yamato guy, that probably helped them x3 lool
 

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I forgot all about Kabuto powering up Zetsu with that Yamato guy, that probably helped them x3 lool

Would've been totally screwed without Kabuto. Kabuto even went to Turtle Island personally, the guy is good.
 

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I agreed... they actually played very smart cards. though.
 

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No doubt. Realistically SA is long dead and survivors are under eternal tsukuyomi.
 
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