Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara

[Reflection]

I see people saying Edo Madara>Edo Hashirama just because he has rinnegan and mokuton techniques, but this isn't exactly the case.

As you can see in this scan (

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) Madara admits that Hashirama is the only individual who can defeat him. Now, some of you try to argue that he was referring to Hashirama being the only one able to stop the massive susano'o, but that's bullshit and here's why...
Madara said that he already told them, which means he stated that Hashi could defeat him before susano'o, which means Hashirama>Edo Madara

Others argue that he said Hashirama was the only one to have ever defeated him, but that's bullshit, too and here's why...
He goes on to state "but he's not around anymore", so he knows that Hashirama could beat him in his Edo state, which means Hashirama>Edo Madara

Also, Dan states it (

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). I know Dan doesn't really count, but Kishi, the creator, is letting you Edo Madara dickriders know that Madara would be defeated by Hashirama alone, so there ya go.
Have a great night!

 

[-Raviel-]

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[Saikyokami]

the thing your overlooking is the fact that he and hashirama were more or less even with their fight lasting 2-3days when he had nothing but ems. now he has rinnegan mokuton and PS.... He'd ass rape hashirama get over it bro

 

[Darth Vader]

We have yet to see. Let's be patient.
But, I agree to some extent.

 

[Reflection]

the thing your overlooking is the fact that he and hashirama were more or less even with their fight lasting 2-3days when he had nothing but ems. now he has rinnegan mokuton and PS.... He'd ass rape hashirama get over it bro

Yeah, I follow what the manga states, not idiocy at its finest. U_U

 

[Koha]

I'm sick of seeing this, don't you see that he said "could" which is past tense of "can".

Plus Edo Hashirama and Edo Madara would be be fighting for eternity, neither has shown an affinity for Sealing Techniques as of yet, so going by whatever data we know, Edo Madara has a slight advantage over Edo Hashirama. Technically he's fighting himself, with the powers of the Sage and himself in EMS.

Note: I said YET, with the case of Hashirama knowing any Sealing Techniques. Even if Mito's his wife I'm not gonna make any assumption until it's already shown.


Next Note: Hashirama barely defeated EMS Madara.......... At THIS point, if it took him just about everything to take on Madara, how would he defeat him now? Just asking?

 

[LordSasukeOfSixPaths]

the thing your overlooking is the fact that he and hashirama were more or less even with their fight lasting 2-3days when he had nothing but ems. now he has rinnegan mokuton and PS.... He'd ass rape hashirama get over it bro

this but with mid diff

 

[foxyladyland]

i guess Dan can almost count since he is from the time of Tsunade and the other Sannin, so he might have been her age,
and she saw Hashirama when she was his grandaughter as a little girl, so i guess it kinda counts when Dan says that
although he would have been a little tike too...But Madara has Clones of Susanoo now remember..
but Hashi prob has wood clones heh

 

[Reflection]

I'm sick of seeing this, don't you see that he said "could" which is past tense of "can".

Plus Edo Hashirama and Edo Madara would be be fighting for eternity, neither has shown an affinity for Sealing Techniques as of yet, so going by whatever data we know, Edo Madara has a slight advantage over Edo Hashirama. Technically he's fighting himself, with the powers of the Sage and himself in EMS.

He says "can." Follow the first link, bitch. Besides, why would he go on to state, "but he's not around anymore?"

 

[foxyladyland]

He says "can." Follow the first link, bitch. Besides, why would he go on to state, "but he's not around anymore?"

what do you think of dan's ghost technique? yes he can count though

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

I see people saying Edo Madara>Edo Hashirama just because he has rinnegan and mokuton techniques, but this isn't exactly the case.

As you can see in this scan (

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) Madara admits that Hashirama is the only individual who can defeat him. Now, some of you try to argue that he was referring to Hashirama being the only one able to stop the massive susano'o, but that's bullshit and here's why...
Madara said that he already told them, which means he stated that Hashi could defeat him before susano'o, which means Hashirama>Edo Madara

Others argue that he said Hashirama was the only one to have ever defeated him, but that's bullshit, too and here's why...
He goes on to state "but he's not around anymore", so he knows that Hashirama could beat him in his Edo state, which means Hashirama>Edo Madara

Also, Dan states it (

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). I know Dan doesn't really count, but Kishi, the creator, is letting you Edo Madara dickriders know that Madara would be defeated by Hashirama alone, so there ya go.
Have a great night!

What do you expext from the god of shinobi

 

[Koha]

He says "can." Follow the first link, bitch. Besides, why would he go on to state, "but he's not around anymore?"

Could barely defeat Madara with only Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, and still expect to defeat him with the Rinnegan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, his DNA and techniques.......



Laughable.

 

[Reflection]

what do you think of dan's ghost technique? yes he can count though

It's epic. I just love it... ¬_¬

Could barely defeat Madara with only Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, and still expect to defeat him with the Rinnegan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, his DNA and techniques.......



Laughable.

Yeah, but that's your logic. I follow Kishimoto's logic, considering he's the creator.
Argue all you like, it's there and it won't change. Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara. U_U
Btw, how do you know he barely defeated him?

 

[Koha]

It's epic. I just love it... ¬_¬


Yeah, but that's your logic. I follow Kishimoto's logic, considering he's the creator.
Argue all you like, it's there and it won't change. Edo Hashirama>Edo Madara. U_U
Btw, how do you know he barely defeated him?

One, they've had multiple stalemates through their entire lives.
Two, in the battle to the "death", he forced Hashirama to use the full extent of his power
Three, if you think eternal rivals would be able to beat each other easily, you're way off, dude.......... It's always down to the wire.
Four, Kishi's logic also led to Madara outliving Hashirama and acquiring what he needed from him in order to surpass Hashirama.


Kishi's logic is still pushing Madara as the Ultimate Antagonist at the moment... Even so, his was recreated PAST his Prime. And if his prime equaled (barely lost) to Hashirama's, common sense tells you also, until they actually ever fight that now Madara has way surpassed Hashirama.

 

[Waltz]

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Hashirama lacks feats to stand up to Madara's arsenal. also this statement is just hype.

 

[BloodSeed]

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look at the facepalm from hashirama. lol looks like hashirama thinks madara was just a kid doing bad things lol

 

[Reflection]

One, they've had multiple stalemates through their entire lives.
Two, in the battle to the "death", he forced Hashirama to use the full extent of his power
Three, if you think eternal rivals would be able to beat each other easily, you're way off, dude.......... It's always down to the wire.
Four, Kishi's logic also led to Madara outliving Hashirama and acquiring what he needed from him in order to surpass Hashirama.


Kishi's logic is still pushing Madara as the Ultimate Antagonist at the moment... Even so, his was recreated PAST his Prime. And if his prime equaled (barely lost) to Hashirama's, common sense tells you also, until they actually ever fight that now Madara has way surpassed Hashirama.

1. I don't see your point
2.Proof? How do you know that was the extent to Hashirama's power?
3.I never said it would be easy
4. Still doesn't change that Hashirama is the only one who can beat him, as stated in the manga.

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Hashirama lacks feats to stand up to Madara's arsenal. also this statement is just hype.

That's not a fact. Being capable of stopping him is a good thing, considering he's nearly god. Also, are you just saying it's more accurate because it suits your viewpoint? Sounds legit.

 

[Waltz]

1. I don't see your point
2.Proof? How do you know that was the extent to Hashirama's power?
3.I never said it would be easy
4. Still doesn't change that Hashirama is the only one who can beat him, as stated in the manga.


That's not a fact. Being capable of stopping him is a good thing, considering he's nearly god. Also, are you just saying it's more accurate because it suits your viewpoint? Sounds legit.

*********** translations are more accurate than Mangapanda's. The Madara and kyuubi, Hashirama fought at VoTE isn't nearly as strong as Edo Madara and the Juubi.......thats the big difference. Though, he says Hashirama is the only one who is capable of stopping him...doesn't necessarily mean Hashirama is going to stop him single handedly.

 

[BryanSk8]

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Lol

*********** translations are more accurate than Mangapanda's. The Madara and kyuubi, Hashirama fought at VoTE isn't nearly as strong as Edo Madara and the Juubi.......thats the big difference. Though, he says Hashirama is the only one who is capable of stopping him...doesn't necessarily mean Hashirama is going to stop him single handedly.

Preach it

 

[mun]

*********** translations are more accurate than Mangapanda's. The Madara and kyuubi, Hashirama fought at VoTE isn't nearly as strong as Edo Madara and the Juubi.......thats the big difference. Though, he says Hashirama is the only one who is capable of stopping him...doesn't necessarily mean Hashirama is going to stop him single handedly.

hashi stomped madara before and he'll stomp him again. Edo hashi > edo madara. So what if madara has rinnegan and some of hashi's wood tech, I don't see him beating the 1000 hand jutsu. Hashi wins ez