No kurama/obito attack 16 years ago?
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Naoya Minato
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Naruto acted like an idiot to get attention. He wouldn't have to anymore.
Kurama was the one that messed up Naruto's chakra control. He wouldn't have that problem anymore.
He could learn various techniques from his father which would fill in for Kurama's absence. Naruto would do better at the academy.
He wouldn't constantly complain for a higher ranked mission, due to him already being accepted in Konoha as a ninja, therefore he wouldn't get that C rank mission against Zabuza.
And lastly, Minato could protect him in those battles if he was still alive.
Edit: Naruto also wouldn't have such a strong bond with Sasuke, due to them not being the same, and Naruto would have no reason to be so obsessed with Sasuke and try to bring him back.
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Don't try argueing with the guy. The moment he claimed Naruto would be dead without the 9 tails and said he could prove it, he proved he thinks he is Kishimoto.
Like I said in an earlier post, its impossible to tell what Naruto would be like without the 9 tails, all we can do is make educated guesses.
And this thread is a good one I think
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I did, team 7 would have still been together U_U
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Naruto would have still participated in the chuunin exams
And he would've still fought sasuke
So all of my proof is valid becuase those specific points in time would not have changed
Naoya Minato
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Again, he wouldn't be dead last. His chakra control got messed up by Kurama. Without Kurama, the Clone technique wouldn't go wrong, therefore he wouldn't fail 3 to 4 times in a row.
Minato could have and/or would have already taught him Jutsu's such as Rasengan and FTG earlier on. Naruto has the chakra capacity for it. Without Kurama, Naruto has 4 times the Chakra Kakashi has.
In Part I, Naruto was regularly noted to have a great deal of potential by among some of the strongest ninja like Kakashi, Kabuto, even the Sannin, proving himself as a very late bloomer.
SenseiMartian
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I don't know if he would've been a genius per se... but much of his younger years he spent pulling pranks to get attention. If he was trained by Minato and even Kushina, there is a chance that he could've learned everything his father had developed. Question becomes though, if his parents had not died, would he have ended up training with Jiraiya? Maybe, but we'll never know, and thusly may not learn sage mode, or maybe even toad summonings. (Still might have learned toad summonings due to Minato though, but the availability to learn sage mode would have lessoned much more.) Even had they survived, Minato would have had to fight Orochimaru during the invasion of Konoha. (It could be argued that Orochimaru would not have attacked had Minato and Hiruzen been in the village had the same time.) The combinations, and subsequent permutations are nearly limitless.
1. Kurama only affected his rasengan, and besides naruto could still spam hundreds of clones so its not like using his own chakra would kill him...
2. What could his father do that kakashi and jiraiya already havent? FTG is a special jutsu and naruto as a kid wouldnt be able to master it
3. What..? thats naruto's personality, he likes going on high ranking missions, in fact he still wanted to go on a "special" S-ranked mission, even after he was already called the hero of konoha
4. Minato would not have been there for the naruto V sasuke fight, as well as the chuunin exam fights...
5. Again thats naruto's personality, he wanted to save sasuke really badly becuase he shared a strong bond with him yes, but if neji was in his situation, of even shino youre telling me that he wouldnt fight to bring him back too??
Naoya Minato
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Fair enough.
The entire point is that the Konoha attack was a giant part of the story. The possibilities are limitless. You could say the Uchiha would've never been massacred, since they wouldn't have been blamed for the Nine Tails attack. Sasuke would have no reason for vengeance.
Of course, there is no proof of this, since it's an entirely different story. So it can go any way, honestly.
Wildslayer
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Do you not realize your life experiences SHAPE YOU. His behavior would have been much different if he had grown up having a family, and the villagers not hating him.
1. read the scan...It was his grades, the shadow clone failing just cemented his place as dead last becuase everybody could already do it. According to that scan, he was just a bad ninja at the time...you dont solely get graded on your shadow clones, theres more to school than that.
2. rasengan is an A-rank ninjutsu, the highest level of shape manipulation, In fact it was kurama that helped him master it but thats besides the point. Do you honestly think that naruto, who got the lowest grades in the class would be able to pull off a jutsu of such a high caliber?? let alone FTG which is an S-rank ninjutsu
3. late or not, it was some of the first battles in the series that almost had him killed if it wasnt for kurama, so that "bloom" would've never even occurred...
I dont disagree with the possibilities being limitless, Im saying that naruto, given his skillset is nowhere near top 20 material without kurama. Even if we make up scenario's based on what wouldve happened if obito didnt attack the village, he still loses to many many many ninja
naruto got his personality from his parents. They are exacly like him (minato: kind hearted, selfless, will do anything to save the ones he loves. And kushina: stubborn and loud, and impulsive) In fact, Its stated that naruto's personality is exactly like kushina's...
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From what I have read he still has the 9 tails inside him but his parents are alive as well, so not quite. From the reviews and summaries, Menma is amazingly powerful though, adding to the claim that Naruto would be stronger if his parents were alive.
NarutoSageUzumaki
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he would've concentrated on many other things
his chakra control would be better
he would not be so socially awkward but he would be more cool
he would have parents who whoul've taught him many techniques
Sage mode and Rasengan is a given , granted Jiraiya would still be alive
He would've had more info on Sealing techniques cuz Kushina would've taught him
Chakra chains - in my opinion is a lot like Mokuton , and if used with a big amount of chakra can prove to be deadly
Kurama2012
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there is no point in taking fox away from naruto as we would be reading a completely different series all together so to claim naruto would be nothing with out the fox is a ridicules claim as thats like saying uchiha with out sharingan are nothing. in the end of the day naruto does have the fox and it aint going anywhere soon
To all who don't like kurama in naruto like this person, read this "YOU CAN STOP READING NARUTO MANGA" this story is all about naruto and 9 tails. If you don't like it WHY you read this manga?? If you don't like naruto vs sasuke WHY you read this manga??? We just read and enjoy what kishi doing......if you always complain about the STORY goes.....STOP READING.......if you don't like naruto is the main character.....STOP READING. If you "Draphsin" like sasuke so much and don't like kurama in naruto then you can make your own manga......let me see are your own manga would be the hot properties like naruto or not. Naruto manga is more than 7 years or is 10 years now, but this manga always no 1 in online manga reader, you can accept that??
MAKE YOUR OWN MANGA AND STOP READING NARUTO IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT KISHI DOING........