[Debate] Conspiracy

[King-Panda]

a lot of things are suspicious like the presidents being related except for one,the parallels between john f kennedy and abraham lincoln,hitler and bin laden dying on the same day 66 years apart

i dont doubt that 911 was an inside job,the same with bp oil spill,and sandyhook

yeah as I said to someone else, people can't just ignore clues we are given... When people shot the pope, good people like martin luther, malcom x, gandhi, president kenedy, diana, etc.... There's always an excuse, drug addict, extremist, racist or whatever..

 

[Holy Cross]

a lot of things are suspicious like the presidents being related except for one,the parallels between john f kennedy and abraham lincoln,hitler and bin laden dying on the same day 66 years apart

i dont doubt that 911 was an inside job,the same with bp oil spill,and sandyhook

I felt sick when I leared the facts about that SandyHook shit.

 

[rollin]

most of the diseases now a days are made up in labs and all the subliminal messages on tv there's the whole mk ultra project as well

 

[King-Panda]

I felt sick when I leared the facts about that SandyHook shit.

whats that?

most of the diseases now a days are made up in labs and all the subliminal messages on tv there's the whole mk ultra project as well

that's a big conspiracy theory

 

[YowYan]

Most are very plausible. Even if they're not, can't we entertain a thought without accepting it?

Only simpletons immediately deem critical thinkers as conspiracy theorists..

 

[King-Panda]

Most are very plausible. Even if they're not, can't we entertain a thought without accepting it?

Only simpletons immediately deem critical thinkers as conspiracy theorists..

well saidddd

 

[Jin Hayami]

Chupacabra.
They're migrating north and the government doesn't want you to know.

 

[Huang]

I don't believe in any conspiracy theories, with an emphesis on 'theory', simpley because I need evidence in order to believe someone so rediculous as Illuminati.

How to know if a conspiracy theory is true 101;

Does your information come from a certified trustworthy journalist? Plausible, till further investigation.

Does your information come from a Youtube video/channel, or any other website? False, period!

 

[YowYan]

I don't believe in any conspiracy theories, with an emphesis on 'theory', simpley because I need evidence in order to believe someone so rediculous as Illuminati.

How to know if a conspiracy theory is true 101;

Does your information come from a certified trustworthy journalist? Plausible, till further investigation.

Does your information come from a Youtube video/channel, or any other website? False, period!

Most people know squat when it comes to global politics, freemasonry and society related philosophy because of their way of thinking is within the state controlled consciousness. It's useless to get interested in conspiracy theories, but not know anything serious outside of those claimed 'conspiracies'.

And sadly, that's where most ppl are. They either get infatuated with the illuminati, talking smart about the all-seeing eye and triangle and stuff, or they ridicule it completely out of ignorance.

 

[King-Panda]

I don't believe in any conspiracy theories, with an emphesis on 'theory', simpley because I need evidence in order to believe someone so rediculous as Illuminati.

How to know if a conspiracy theory is true 101;

Does your information come from a certified trustworthy journalist? Plausible, till further investigation.

Does your information come from a Youtube video/channel, or any other website? False, period!

lloooool heard of the conspiracy that they control the media? LOOL....
But yeah you don't know, you investigate, you can't just ignore clues and think you live in a pink world where everyone wants the best for everyone lol

Its up to someone to use their brain and start thinking why certain things happen, why certain things don't happen...

Most people know squat when it comes to global politics, freemasonry and society related philosophy because of their way of thinking is within the state controlled consciousness. It's useless to get interested in conspiracy theories, but not know anything serious outside of those claimed 'conspiracies'.

And sadly, that's where most ppl are. They either get infatuated with the illuminati, talking smart about the all-seeing eye and triangle and stuff, or they ridicule it completely out of ignorance.

People are like sasuke, easily influenced.... and pay more attention to things they shouldn't, and don't pay too much attention in the things they should

 

[Typhon]

I don't think there's a problem with questioning the official stories of events, but it can go too far. When people start misrepresenting facts and using false or circumstantial information to push conspiracy theories that's when you move into the territory of conspiracy theorist.

 

[King-Panda]

I don't think there's a problem with questioning the official stories of events, but it can go too far. When people start misrepresenting facts and using false or circumstantial information to push conspiracy theories that's when you move into the territory of conspiracy theorist.

Yes... people normally take things either too far or not "far enough".... Deaths of people are the most obvious clues... And I think everyone knows that the media is controlled, they don't show everything they should and try to influence the way we think, etc...

 

[Typhon]

Yes... people normally take things either too far or not "far enough".... Deaths of people are the most obvious clues... And I think everyone knows that the media is controlled, they don't show everything they should and try to influence the way we think, etc...

Meh, I think the media's problem is that its incompetent more than its being controlled. They're too concerned about ratings and not concerned enough with providing the facts.

 

[King-Panda]

Meh, I think the media's problem is that its incompetent more than its being controlled. They're too concerned about ratings and not concerned enough with providing the facts.

Incompetent? Just that? i don't think so... what's your thoughts about the nasa one? why can't we see a single star in the sky?

 

[Typhon]

Incompetent? Just that? i don't think so... what's your thoughts about the nasa one? why can't we see a single star in the sky?

I think its just the type of photography they used. See this is a problem I see often with conspiracy theories. People claim the government has played this elaborate hoax that tricked millions of people, yet at the same time they're dumb enough to not have any stars in the background of moon photos.

Do you really think NASA and the US Government would forget something as simple, but important as stars in space? It just seems ridiculous to me that people would consider that.

Now this is in no way a scientific explanation, but here's someone's opinion on yahoo answers:

The camera was focussed for a pretty close-up picture, and the light from the flash "drowned out" the light from the stars.

Is that not a much more reasonable explanation than NASA forgetting to add stars to space?

NASA's explanation is similar:

Conspiracy theorists have been poring over NASA footage to discredit the moon landings. According to these theorists, none of the photographs from the moon shows any stars. Since the moon has no atmosphere, they claim that thousands of stars should be evident in the photos. However, NASA scientists explain that the camera was unable to capture the light emitted from the stars because the bright sunlight hitting the moon's surface washes out the light from the stars.

 

[YowYan]

Meh, I think the media's problem is that its incompetent more than its being controlled. They're too concerned about ratings and not concerned enough with providing the facts.

It's not necessarily incompetence.. The media is well under control of big corps and provide only misinformation to keep the state controlled consciousness intact. It's not a coincidence. Let me add that there's a big difference between Dutch and American news.

One of 'em is that Dutch journalists and news hosts don't bring in their opinion on the matter. You see that a lot on american television.. tv hosts trying to make the viewers agree with their opinions.. that's how most ppl get all deluded. I remember talking with a few ppl from Stanford University back in 2011. They all laughed at me for liking Ron Paul. They only argument they had was" 'Ron Paul? Isn't he to old? And you're not american, so butt out.''

 

[Typhon]

It's not necessarily incompetence.. The media is well under control of big corps and provide only misinformation to keep the state controlled consciousness intact. It's not a coincidence. Let me add that there's a big difference between Dutch and American news.

One of 'em is that Dutch journalists and news hosts don't bring in their opinion on the matter. You see that a lot on american television.. tv hosts trying to make the viewers agree with their opinions.. that's how most ppl get all deluded. I remember talking with a few ppl from Stanford University back in 2011. They all laughed at me for liking Ron Paul. They only argument they had was" 'Ron Paul? Isn't he to old? And you're not american, so butt out.''

I agree with that, but again I see that as more of an attempt to bring up ratings than an attempt to control the masses. Opinions and debate are just more entertaining that purely factual reporting, so it brings in more viewers. It also helps build viewership because the talking heads will appeal to specific ways of thinking and people like to hear others agree with their pre-conceived notions of whats going on. That's why you something like FOX which is incredibly Republican in its news coverage while something like MSNBC is incredibly Liberal.

 

[King-Panda]

I think its just the type of photography they used. See this is a problem I see often with conspiracy theories. People claim the government has played this elaborate hoax that tricked millions of people, yet at the same time they're dumb enough to not have any stars in the background of moon photos.

Do you really think NASA and the US Government would forget something as simple, but important as stars in space? It just seems ridiculous to me that people would consider that.

Now this is in no way a scientific explanation, but here's someone's opinion on yahoo answers:



Is that not a much more reasonable explanation than NASA forgetting to add stars to space?

NASA's explanation is similar:

Hmmm I dunno, you can't always accept answer without questioning them... I wonder if you believe in any conspiracy theory

 

[King-Panda]

I agree with that, but again I see that as more of an attempt to bring up ratings than an attempt to control the masses. Opinions and debate are just more entertaining that purely factual reporting, so it brings in more viewers. It also helps build viewership because the talking heads will appeal to specific ways of thinking and people like to hear others agree with their pre-conceived notions of whats going on. That's why you something like FOX which is incredibly Republican in its news coverage while something like MSNBC is incredibly Liberal.

Iluminati

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Afterall we are all slaves to their agenda - the New World Order, in which the Bible says the NWO is bad and the pathing way of the anti-christ in the end times.
Obama and many religious and political leaders are calling for one world government, a New World Order -

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But they are puppets of the so called illuminati who are the real brains behind the government and world events - such as the Rothschilds and Rockefeller Families who are the world's riches families worth trillions of dollars who own everything and are above everything.
The illuminati are said to control everything from the mass media, world's banks and law courts.
The dollar bill has the illuminati symbol - the all seeing eye and the pyramid -

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illuminati and freemason symbolism can be seen in many television programmes, films and mentioned in music -

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"They don't give a **** about us" - Tupac
"They don't really care about us" - Michael Jackson
"They don't want to see us unite, all they want us to do, is keep on fussing and fighting, they don't want to see us live together, all they want us to do is keep on killing oneanother" - Bob Marley

Did you know Tupac's last album was called 'Don Killuminati' - referring to the illuminati.
Tupac started to speak out more against the illuminati in his music.
Just weeks after the release of the album, Tupac was murdered..
Tupac was considered a threat, he was an intelligent guy. When you have the masses following you and you start to speak out more against them, you are a threat. Tupac was silenced, he was
'taken out' because he started to talk more against them in his music.

President kennedy made a speech opposing secret societies such as the illuminati. Probably the only last and real president to speak out and oppose secret societies and as a result he had to go..
Later, he was assassinated..

Michael Jackson, John Lennon, Tupac, Bob Marley, Martin Luther King and many more -
all wanted to start a revolution, speaking about love and world peace but this is why they are considered a threat. To the illuminati/government, it's about control, maniuplation, fear, negativity and controlling the public.

Tom and Jerry satanic illuminati worship -

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MTV illuminati ad -

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Mcdonalds illuminati tv ad commercial -

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It's all about coniditioning the minds of the mass public. Picking up their symbolisms subconciously through the minds, a way of 'accepting' their coming New World Order but don't let it fool you.

illuminati symbolims are everythwere. Yet the public who haven't researched up on this, they don't have a clue - about it or the governments intentions are for this world.
More people need to wake up and see what's really going on and how we are all being used, manipulated and lied too.

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hey do exist...they existed years ago, they just starting to show it more now because they are much stronger now...using media as there weapon, illuminati have a symble which is a triangle....if you notice some people use that symble part of what they do example jay-z he does it with his hands and in few stage shows he does it out to the crowd and they copy...this is like mind control (well kinda).

Micael jackson he was chased by the illuminati and then killed.Michael Jackson was going to warn the entire world about what the Illuminati are planning. In the song "They Don't Care About Us" by Michael Jackson, he is referring to the Illuminati.
The Illuminati control the media, music industry, film industry, medical industry, pharmaceutical (legal industry), colleges and academic institutions, the banking institutions, Wall Street and the Political System.

Rihanna - come on you must have yourself noticed if yu did ever watch and listen to her musoc she was amazing, she was like an average innocent women but when she made the song with jay-z, Umbralla ( targeted at jews, christians and muslims, becuase when she is saying umbrella in that song, the way she is saying it, in hebrew it means no god! astgfrullah.....
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she had a quick change, all of a sudden its as if shes lost herself...shes making very disturbing songs...her M&S song is unappropriate...even that the music video, at some point it says at the back she is the princess of illuminati.

Also the Bermuda traingle....why is it that nothing gets close to that place and if it does it disapears or something happens to it....its all satanic. the traingle..illuminati does exist...theres so much more but cant fit it all on...

 

[Typhon]

Hmmm I dunno, you can't always accept answer without questioning them... I wonder if you believe in any conspiracy theory

Oh no, I agree. Questioning is healthy. I've looked into things like the moon landing, 9/11 and Sandy Hook and I've looked at the evidence provided by both sides. I really haven't been convinced of some elaborate hoax/conspiracy in any of those events and for every piece of "evidence" given by theorists I've found solid facts that prove it wrong.

I think you need to look into these things with an open mind. Look at the evidence objectively and then draw a conclusion. A lot of the time conspiracy theorists will already have their minds made up, and then look for evidence to support their premature conclusion. Its just a backwards way of investigating something.

Some things I think have at least some credibility: JFK Assassination and UFO encounters.