[Theory] Madara Uchiha is Behind Orochimaru's Downfall

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your right , and danzo also received hashi dna from oro

whoa whoa whoa, this just brought an idea to my head, what if danzo got hashi cells from obito while posing as madara, and that way oro got it from danzo while in the ANBU, it would haev to depend on the timeline and would require more looking into to prove anything though
 

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whoa whoa whoa, this just brought an idea to my head, what if danzo got hashi cells from obito while posing as madara, and that way oro got it from danzo while in the ANBU, it would haev to depend on the timeline and would require more looking into to prove anything though

I dont think the timeline alows this idea but its a thought
 

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Orochimmaru more than likly got the dna and created more cells from it

whoa whoa whoa, this just brought an idea to my head, what if danzo got hashi cells from obito while posing as madara, and that way oro got it from danzo while in the ANBU, it would haev to depend on the timeline and would require more looking into to prove anything though

I dont think the timeline alows this idea but its a thought

thats a thought, not to mention when Obitop showed up to Danzo and Danzo's Companions, he said to Danzo that he aint seen him since the Uchiha Massacre or something
 

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thats a thought, not to mention when Obitop showed up to Danzo and Danzo's Companions, he said to Danzo that he aint seen him since the Uchiha Massacre or something

Thats correct Danzo was involved in that how else do you explain his right arm
 

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"Think about it for a moment Danzo is the only possible ninja who knew of Orochimaru's lab and experiments. Its likely that Orochimaru was used by Danzo to implant the cells of the 1st hokage into him. Then when the job was done he turned Orichimaru into the third hokage.

What you think?"
from a thread i just made
 

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The hold idea of exerimenting with the first cells was Danzo's idea. He used Oro in order to do the experimenting for him since Oro was seen as a genius with that type of stuff.
 

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The hold idea of exerimenting with the first cells was Danzo's idea. He used Oro in order to do the experimenting for him since Oro was seen as a genius with that type of stuff.

Im not arguing it wasnt but im saying danzo betrayed Orochimaru after what ever deal they had was done and orichimaru got screwed
 

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I was watching a review of a Naruto chapter when the reviewer suggested that Madara was behind Orochimaru's downfall.


This would actually explain a great deal of the manga:

Senju DNA: Where did Orochimaru get the Hashi DNA he used in his experiments? Hashirama's body should be dust by now, and considering he claimed he implanted the DNA in several children he somehow got it from somewhere. However if he knew Madara then it would explain it, Madara gave him the DNA.

Former Member of Akatsuki: Orochimaru is a former member of the Akatsuki, however can you really see the guy joining a group if he didn't have a motive especially if he wasn't incharge. If he was in on the Eye of the Moon Plan, then that would explain it.

Flashbacks: Kishi has been very vague on Oro's backstory, yet recently we learn that he had a big reason for wanting to destory Konohagakure. And Jiraya mentioned that Orochimaru lost his parents at a young age, under the Infinite Tsukuyomi Oro would be reunited with (illusions) of his dead family.

Obsession with Sharingan: Orochimaru's desire to get a Sharingan would be explained if he had met someone like Madara.

Where Kabuto got the Body: Kabuto somehow got Madara's corpse, how would this be possible unless he had been told where it was located. Also its implied Oro experimented on the body, by Kabuto (when Madara first used Mokuton.)

Kabuto was aware that Obito wasn't the real Madara, despite Obito fooling everyone else in the series.

This all fuels my belief that Oro and Madara knew each other, and when we look at the timeline it does fit considering Madara lived long enough to meet Obito.

This also fuels my theory that Sasuke and Orochimaru are going to join Madara and Obito rather then the Alliance.

What are your thoughts?

This is highly possible considering when Madara was resurrected he thought Orochimaru summoned him until Kabuto told him he was "his" assistant.
 
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It is certainly possible that Madara somehow influenced Orochimaru, but honestly I do not see that happening, Orochimaru is not one to be manipulated, he is far too smart for that, he prefers to be the master behind the scenes & does nothing that does not serve his own ambitions, not to mention he hates Akatsuki & according to Kabuto would devote any free time available to thrawrting their plans.shodaimeicon:
 

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We dony know if he had some connection Obito. But he could have gotten the Dna from Danzo. He has said that he has no interest in the war therefore he dousnt care about the eye of the moon plan and would likely stop it. Tobirama also said he didnt know Madara.
How he found out about Madara was by sniffing around when he was in the Akatsuki which he likely was in to get Itachis body.
 

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We dony know if he had some connection Obito. But he could have gotten the Dna from Danzo. He has said that he has no interest in the war therefore he dousnt care about the eye of the moon plan and would likely stop it. Tobirama also said he didnt know Madara.
How he found out about Madara was by sniffing around when he was in the Akatsuki which he likely was in to get Itachis body.

He most likely didnt though considering the only two who knew the truth were zetsu and tobi
 
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