[Theory] Madara Uchiha is Behind Orochimaru's Downfall

[saw2097]

well.........there are graves you know? just like Hiruzen had a funeral and he was buried probably

Bodies decay overtime, eventually they turn to dust. It doens't take long either, it could be only a couple of months for the body to be history. The time gap between Orochimaru's experiments and Hashi's death make it impossible to get the DNA from the original body.

 

[foxyladyland]

What if Madara taught Oro Edo Tensei?

wow thats something.....but maybe just like naruto was given that scroll by mizuki
orochimaru got his hands on the forbidden scrolls and learned it himself

 

[snipeshot11385]

Bones decay as well, you can't get DNA from fossels either, Hashirama died decades before Oro was even born.

Also maybe Madara Uchiha lied when he said Obito was the only person that knew he was alive.

Hiruzen said it was his fault because Orochimaru is his student, Hiruzen didn't find out about Orochimaru's corruption until he found his lab.

uhhh Hashi raised tsunade to an extent and taught her to gamble, tsunade Oro and Jiraiya are the same age sooo Oro was alive when Hashi was alive, ALSO oro was alive when Madara was alive *UNLESS* Hashi killed madara before tsunade was born which is a possibility

 

[foxyladyland]

Bodies decay overtime, eventually they turn to dust. It doens't take long either, it could be only a couple of months for the body to be history. The time gap between Orochimaru's experiments and Hashi's death make it impossible to get the DNA from the original body.

noo no no, u misunderstand......i also thought oro probably got the dna from nadara , but also thats the plausible idea since kabuto had madara's body for edo tensei..ya'know

 

[saw2097]

uhhh Hashi raised tsunade to an extent and taught her to gamble, tsunade Oro and Jiraiya are the same age sooo Oro was alive when Hashi was alive, ALSO oro was alive when Madara was alive *UNLESS* Hashi killed madara before tsunade was born which is a possibility

Okay thats a good point, but Oro would have only been a kid, when Hashi was around. Hashirama died during the first Shinobi World War, by the time Oro started his experiments he was an adult, which means Hashirama would be long dead, and decaying.

 

[Yatori]

Sound legit.. but if true that madara and oro plan that infinite tsukoyomi madara knew oro useless without sharigan thats why oro desperate looking for sharingan.. then obito comes just in the right time lol.. hmm but if true why didnt madara give oro his eyes then.. actually thats debatable.. well if madara met nagato so thats possible he can met oro too since the timeline match..

 

[Kyuuchiuga]

Makes sense, but I need more evidence than that.

 

[foxyladyland]

Okay thats a good point, but Oro would have only been a kid, when Hashi was around. Hashirama died during the first Shinobi World War, by the time Oro started his experiments he was an adult, which means Hashirama would be long dead, and decaying.

well you are still kinda wrong about the DNA of people who died as long ago as Hashirama because kabuto still edo tensei'd
the 2 generation of Kages remember?

 

[saw2097]

well you are still kinda wrong about the DNA of people who died as long ago as Hashirama because kabuto still edo tensei'd
the 2 generation of Kages remember?

Alright good point there. But they did live longer then Hashirama did and died after he did.

 

[foxyladyland]

Alright good point there. But they did live longer then Hashirama did and died after he did.

thats right but because they are pretty much alot older than old hiruzen , he could have got the dna from either madara or a grave is just as plausible almost. right?

 

[snipeshot11385]

Okay thats a good point, but Oro would have only been a kid, when Hashi was around. Hashirama died during the first Shinobi World War, by the time Oro started his experiments he was an adult, which means Hashirama would be long dead, and decaying.

True oro probably didnt start experiments until atleast around when he joined the ANBU, but hashirama didnt die in the first shinobi war, it was before that, in one of the random wars with the random newly started hidden villages

Edit:
oh and in my opinion Orochimaru got hashirama's DNA somehow during his time as ANBU.

 

[saw2097]

True oro probably didnt start experiments until atleast around when he joined the ANBU, but hashirama didnt die in the first shinobi war, it was before that, in one of the random wars with the random newly started hidden villages

That adds to my theory that it would be very hard to acquire Hashirama's DNA without Madara.

 

[foxyladyland]

True oro probably didnt start experiments until atleast around when he joined the ANBU, but hashirama didnt die in the first shinobi war, it was before that, in one of the random wars with the random newly started hidden villages

That adds to my theory that it would be very hard to acquire Hashirama's DNA without Madara.

lets not forget that Hashirama helped build the woods and grounds of the Hidden Leaf Village with his Wood Jutsu or Earth or something, whatever its called. lol

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

But Why did madara chose Orochimaru then

 

[foxyladyland]

But Why did madara chose Orochimaru then

you might like to hear because orochimaru is the best ......
but to add to his point that he could have only got hashi's dna from madara because hashi died too long ago is the fact that
none of the 1st generation of kages were edo tensei'd.

 

[snipeshot11385]

maybe because oro was considered a prodigy as a kid

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Plus Orochimaru had axcess to the 1sts grave same with the 2nd

 

[foxyladyland]

maybe because oro was considered a prodigy as a kid

and yes oro was a prodigy as a kid....he was hiruzen's genius like sasuke and neji and minato

Plus Orochimaru had axcess to the 1sts grave same with the 2nd

those are both the truth i think, or so i thought

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

and yes oro was a prodigy as a kid....he was hiruzen's genius like sasuke and neji and minato


those are both the truth i think, or so i thought

Considering that he had the 2nds dna for edotensei i think the madara theory is far fetched but its still possible

 

[saw2097]

lets not forget that Hashirama helped build the woods and grounds of the Hidden Leaf Village with his Wood Jutsu or Earth or something, whatever its called. lol

I don't think you can get DNA from the wood itself.