[Theory] Madara Uchiha is Behind Orochimaru's Downfall

[saw2097]

I was watching a review of a Naruto chapter when the reviewer suggested that Madara was behind Orochimaru's downfall.


This would actually explain a great deal of the manga:

Senju DNA: Where did Orochimaru get the Hashi DNA he used in his experiments? Hashirama's body should be dust by now, and considering he claimed he implanted the DNA in several children he somehow got it from somewhere. However if he knew Madara then it would explain it, Madara gave him the DNA.

Former Member of Akatsuki: Orochimaru is a former member of the Akatsuki, however can you really see the guy joining a group if he didn't have a motive especially if he wasn't incharge. If he was in on the Eye of the Moon Plan, then that would explain it.

Flashbacks: Kishi has been very vague on Oro's backstory, yet recently we learn that he had a big reason for wanting to destory Konohagakure. And Jiraya mentioned that Orochimaru lost his parents at a young age, under the Infinite Tsukuyomi Oro would be reunited with (illusions) of his dead family.

Obsession with Sharingan: Orochimaru's desire to get a Sharingan would be explained if he had met someone like Madara.

Where Kabuto got the Body: Kabuto somehow got Madara's corpse, how would this be possible unless he had been told where it was located. Also its implied Oro experimented on the body, by Kabuto (when Madara first used Mokuton.)

Kabuto was aware that Obito wasn't the real Madara, despite Obito fooling everyone else in the series.

This all fuels my belief that Oro and Madara knew each other, and when we look at the timeline it does fit considering Madara lived long enough to meet Obito.

This also fuels my theory that Sasuke and Orochimaru are going to join Madara and Obito rather then the Alliance.

What are your thoughts?

 

[Cartera]

maybe be he wanted itachi's eyes

 

[foxyladyland]

so are you saying ORO only got ahold of hashi dna because of Madara's plan and his underground cave?

 

[H a n]

Those two would have bound to cross eachothers paths..

 

[saw2097]

so are you saying ORO only got ahold of hashi dna because of Madara's plan and his underground cave?

Where else would he get it from, Hashirama's body should be dust from decayment.

 

[Peace Maker]

first of all madara allready mentioned that only him (obito) knows that he still a live... and second it's hiruzen's (3rd hokage's) fault why oro is revelling, 3rd hashi's dna is not only about the blood you could get it in his bones or something... not to mention hashi is a wood release user, oro could just create a seed (with hashi's dna or something) then plant it. o.o

 

[vandell]

Where else would he get it from, Hashirama's body should be dust from decayment.

oro got got hasi dna from kabuto, I don't think he got it before that, I mean come on if he had the first dna in him sasuke would be in oros head because oro would having taking sasuke body easy.

 

[foxyladyland]

Where else would he get it from, Hashirama's body should be dust from decayment.

i agree with your ideas , infact i also thought the same thing already,.good job!.
but what if Oro also had a hand in Kakashi and Rin situation, maybe not but still a chance....
also though it could have been the traveling zetsu that used the missing eye that madara didnt have and used it on the mizukage or something and cast genjutsu on him with madara's missing eye(if he found 2 of them and got rid of the other for his plans to succeed)
u kinda know where im going with this?

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Oro Is really behind eberything just watch as he will be the last sensei

 

[saw2097]

first of all madara allready mentioned that only him (obito) knows that he still a live... and second it's hiruzen's (3rd hokage's) fault why oro is revelling, 3rd hashi's dna is not only about the blood you could get it in his bones or something... not to mention hashi is a wood release user, oro could just create a seed (with hashi's dna or something) then plant it. o.o

Bones decay as well, you can't get DNA from fossels either, Hashirama died decades before Oro was even born.

Also maybe Madara Uchiha lied when he said Obito was the only person that knew he was alive.

Hiruzen said it was his fault because Orochimaru is his student, Hiruzen didn't find out about Orochimaru's corruption until he found his lab.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Bones decay as well, you can't get DNA from fossels either, Hashirama died decades before Oro was even born.

Also maybe Madara Uchiha lied when he said Obito was the only person that knew he was alive.

Hiruzen said it was his fault because Orochimaru is his student, Hiruzen didn't find out about Orochimaru's corruption until he found his lab.

Not orochimaru is 53 years old

 

[God Itachi]

makes a little sense. but i don't think oro would help madara in any way

 

[saw2097]

Not orochimaru is 53 years old

He didn't get the DNA the day he was born or when he was a kid. He would be around 20 when he got it.

 

[foxyladyland]

i also think Oro and Madara might have actually met while Madara was still alive maybe a little at least at some point....
Kabuto said "im HIS assistant" he might have meant Oro as in Madara knew Oro already , but didnt know Kabuto.....
Oro Kabuto meant Tobi's assistant...I also think Oro wants the SHaringan to combat the Infinite Tsukunomi(maybe

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

He didn't get the DNA the day he was born or when he was a kid. He would be around 20 when he got it.

point here is Orochimaru is the smartest character in naruto hes escaped death numerous times he even cheated the shinigami

 

[foxyladyland]

point here is Orochimaru is the smartest character in naruto hes escaped death numerous times he even cheated the shinigami

your orochimaru has a sharingan and a rinnegan?? did you take Obito's body??

 

[saw2097]

point here is Orochimaru is the smartest character in naruto hes escaped death numerous times he even cheated the shinigami

Yeah he is inteligent, but you can't change nature, the only plausible source of Hashi DNA is Madara.

 

[Peace Maker]

Bones decay as well, you can't get DNA from fossels either, Hashirama died decades before Oro was even born.

Also maybe Madara Uchiha lied when he said Obito was the only person that knew he was alive.

Hiruzen said it was his fault because Orochimaru is his student, Hiruzen didn't find out about Orochimaru's corruption until he found his lab.

humm bones? i dont know about that...

 

[foxyladyland]

Yeah he is inteligent, but you can't change nature, the only plausible source of Hashi DNA is Madara.

well.........there are graves you know? just like Hiruzen had a funeral and he was buried probably

 

[Tartarus]

What if Madara taught Oro Edo Tensei?