[Discussion] War in the 20th century

[Itachi of Akatsuki]

Dont agree with u on that one...while it is true that the goverment sucks the big one since the revolution it is not true that the invasion would save anything..thats a nice idea...but take afganistan or irak as an exempel..far more people.have died because of invasion then during that actual war...thats the problem..u cant just have stranger ruling over some proud country which jas sworn to fight...that would be a desaster...usa couldn do anything about that in irak and it would be able in iran neither...of course dictators andsuch are away but thats where other problems which might be even worse for the people.occur..

No, I meant invade and establish an independent democracy rather than America ruling the country themselves.

R u trying to justify invasions of US.who gave the tag to US to be the savior of Mankind.A country who is itself highly partial in its foreign policies how can sing the chorus for humanity and democracy.
what has US given to Vietnam,Iraq or Afganistan.just blood of thousands of indivisuals in general.Is the cost of democracy so high.
If the US is so dedicated toward its policies the first country to be invaded should be China which is neither democratic and nor is nuclear weapon free.But does the US and NATO has this potential?Every Invasion was just for its own benefits and was hided by the mask of humanity and democracy and thats what is going to happen in Iran....
and I dont think Irans goverment is so ignorant for it own ppl.Its better than loads of countries on the globe....

What I was trying to say was: USA should invade, remove the leaders and establish an independent parliament/democracy where everyone has a fair vote and nothing is altered to benefit the politicians.

agree with u ^^

I definitely should have re-phrased that

 

[Arian]

Hahaha xD nvm dude

 

[Arian]

No, I meant invade and establish an independent democracy rather than America ruling the country themselves.



What I was trying to say was: USA should invade, remove the leaders and establish an independent parliament/democracy where everyone has a fair vote and nothing is altered to benefit the politicians.



I definitely should have re-phrased that

And how is that done? by force...and thats the problem

 

[YowYan]

I'd blame usa, bankers, obedient soldiers, and politicians. Not that 'blaming' will make any difference.

 

[Fermion]

No, I meant invade and establish an independent democracy rather than America ruling the country themselves.



What I was trying to say was: USA should invade, remove the leaders and establish an independent parliament/democracy where everyone has a fair vote and nothing is altered to benefit the politicians.



I definitely should have re-phrased that

Is US any type of messiah?If people of Iran are dissatisfied from the current goverment than do they need help of US to provide them with democracy and right goverment.
People of Iran or any country in general do have enough power themselves to overthrow the goverment and the regime just as what happend in Egypt and they dont need any form of external help.Nothing like this is happening in Iran that means situations are not worse there.
for sake of democracy flowing rivers of innocent blood that too in an another country is not a good Idea....

 

[Fermion]

No, I meant invade and establish an independent democracy rather than America ruling the country themselves.



What I was trying to say was: USA should invade, remove the leaders and establish an independent parliament/democracy where everyone has a fair vote and nothing is altered to benefit the politicians.



I definitely should have re-phrased that

whatever u mean't for invasion is not correct.Is US any type of messiah?If people of Iran are dissatisfied from the current goverment than do they need help of US to provide them with democracy and right goverment.
People of Iran or any country in general do have enough power themselves to overthrow the goverment and the regime just as what happend in Egypt and they dont need any form of external help.Nothing like this is happening in Iran that means situations are not worse there.
for sake of democracy flowing rivers of innocent blood that too in an another country is not a good Idea....