Itachi Uchiha vs. Sasuke Uchiha

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And what Sasuke has who could hurt Itachi? Im not saying Itachi wins because it's not fair fight when one would lose eye sight after every jutsu he uses and another wouldn't. In fair fight Itachi would win mid diff at best

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I think if Itachi seriously fought him with true intent to kill him then Itachi would win :)
 

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I think if Itachi seriously fought him with true intent to kill him then Itachi would win :)

Sasuke's Susano'o is not really bad. Itachi's Susano'o is great, but he can stay in it for like 10 minutes. Sasuke can spam MS Techniques, and Itachi cannot. Sasuke has better stamina. Sasuke wins this.
 

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Nothing Itachi has can hurt Sasuke and vice versa, thus it will be a battle of attrition which Sasuke clearly wins.

Why not a battle of intelligence .. which itachi clearly wins?
 

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^ How exactly? Sasuke has shown quick-silver intelligence in terms of battle strategy. Still slightness is getting too damn old.
 

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^ i never said sasuke was stupid ... but itachi is smarter ... and a much better planner and But intelligence would help him utilize his moves to be better then sasukes.
 

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If its current Sasuke versus Itachi then honestly Sasuke wins.
For the most part Itachi would not be able to use his MS as much since he would run the risk of going blind. The best case senerio for itachi is if he catches Sasuke in Izganmi but as well all know that can be cancelled out assuming sasuke knows how to which he techinically he does.

As much as people may hype up or underestimate characters sasuke is by no means stuiped and is fully capable of handling himself in CQC, Range combat and taijutsu as well, maybe on par or above itachi with his sword.

Amaterasu is useless in a this case because we've seen sasuke dodge it before and not only that sasuke can very well be able to cancel it out with his mastery of the justu as well. We also know that pure blooded uchiha's are capble of breaking out of tysukiumi and that sasuke's is somewhat better because its more subtle then itachi's.

When it come down to it Itachi and Sasuke are pretty much on par with each other in terms of power however itachi lacks the ablity to spam his ms techinques without the risk and in the end this battle is probably gonna come done to two susanoos clashing.
Which pretty much means that this is gonna come down to a battle of endurance and that one battle sasuke can win.
 

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^ i never said sasuke was stupid ... but itachi is smarter ... and a much better planner and But intelligence would help him utilize his moves to be better then sasukes.

The only area where Itachi takes the lead is philosophical intelligence - that is also subjective - other than that Sasuke clearly has come up with on-the-spot strategies through out the manga. By Manga feats alone, it's extremely biased and slanted to put Sasuke beneath Itachi in terms of battle strategies.
 

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The only area where Itachi takes the lead is philosophical intelligence - that is also subjective - other than that Sasuke clearly has come up with on-the-spot strategies through out the manga. By Manga feats alone, it's extremely biased and slanted to put Sasuke beneath Itachi in terms of battle strategies.

You're joking.. Sasuke and his 3 in intelligence isn't competing with Itachi..this should be obvious just by not only his praise in the manga, but the last battle they were in.. when both caught in kabuto's sound genjutsu, Itachi quickly thought of the method to get out aka overlapping it with another genjutsu.. Itachi is a quicker and smarter thinker.. and anything Sasuke could think of in a fight , Itachi can easily as well



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You're joking.. Sasuke and his 3 in intelligence isn't competing with Itachi..this should be obvious just by not only his praise in the manga, but the last battle they were in.. when both caught in kabuto's sound genjutsu, Itachi quickly thought of the method to get out aka overlapping it with another genjutsu.. Itachi is a quicker and smarter thinker.. and anything Sasuke could think of in a fight , Itachi can easily as well


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You're joking.. Sasuke and his 3 in intelligence isn't competing with Itachi..this should be obvious just by not only his praise in the manga, but the last battle they were in.. when both caught in kabuto's sound genjutsu, Itachi quickly thought of the method to get out aka overlapping it with another genjutsu.. Itachi is a quicker and smarter thinker.. and anything Sasuke could think of in a fight , Itachi can easily as well


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no .. it ..doesn't

So how would Itachi go about putting him in Izanami?
 

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So how would Itachi go about putting him in Izanami?

Well from what you just read you'd know all izanami does is record anything the opponent does, then put them in a loop of that given situation

Itachi didn't have to get stabbed to put kabuto in, that just happened when he started recording
 

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Well from what you just read you'd know all izanami does is record anything the opponent does, then put them in a loop of that given situation

Itachi didn't have to get stabbed to put kabuto in, that just happened when he started recording

Damn...that's it? Izanami is more haxxed than I originally believed. I've change my mind, Itachi wins this then.
 

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You're joking.. Sasuke and his 3 in intelligence isn't competing with Itachi..this should be obvious just by not only his praise in the manga, but the last battle they were in.. when both caught in kabuto's sound genjutsu, Itachi quickly thought of the method to get out aka overlapping it with another genjutsu.. Itachi is a quicker and smarter thinker.. and anything Sasuke could think of in a fight , Itachi can easily as well

I am talking about feats. Hidan had lower stats than Kakashi and Asuma in Taijustu, yet he was able to not only dodge Shikamaru's shadow technique effortlessly but counter and overwhelm Asuma as well, and he did so whilst handling them at the same time. He was fighting toe-to-toe with Kakashi, when the latter had his Sharingan out as well. What does that tell you about Data-book stats? I hope to god, you are joking.

The feats prove for themselves. Sasuke has shown many such feats through out the manga. From Haku and Orochimaru encounter till taking Danzo out. To put Sasuke beneath Itachi in terms of battle strategies is lopsided attitude. As far as praise is concerned then Sasuke has received it as well. I can't see what's your point here.
 

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I am talking about feats. Hidan had lower stats than Kakashi and Asuma in Taijustu, yet he was able to not only dodge Shikamaru's shadow technique effortlessly but counter and overwhelm Asuma as well, and he did so whilst handling them at the same time. He was fighting toe-to-toe with Kakashi, when the latter had his Sharingan out as well. What does that tell you about Data-book stats? I hope to god, you are joking.

The feats prove for themselves. Sasuke has shown many such feats through out the manga. From Haku and Orochimaru encounter till taking Danzo out. To put Sasuke beneath Itachi in terms of battle strategies is lopsided attitude. As far as praise is concerned then Sasuke has received it as well. I can't see what's your point here.

Denying canon databooks is more of a erroneous argument than anything else... As far as praise is concerned, Sasuke is a genius.. Itachi has been praised as a special genius even among a clan of geniuses... his mother and father even noted that even though sasuke was a genius as well, Itachi was special.... Tobi also praised Itachi for his unbelievable aptitude in making plans , Now tell me, what praise does Sasuke have in the manga that puts him anywhere near the level of intellectual skill in combat of people like Kakashi and Minato ...

 

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^ Dude, what has that have anything to do with the argument at hand? This special intelligence comes from his philosophical - lol - stance on several subjects and his introspection as a leader. I am still not sure, what does all of this have anything to do with this discussion.

If you are solely talking about Praise, then even the most idiotic Ninja Naruto has come up with several strategies. This praise alignment with 'I am right' logic argument isn't going in your favour. I am talking about feats, yet you seem to be stuck at dry-praise mediocrity. Minato has shown what exactly, other than one single feat concerning Tobi? Oh Lord. Kakashi is more of a planner, I am talking about quick-strategies and intelligence. Not even remotely related.

Anywhere near is just your own made-up logic. Stick to it please.
 

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Izanami does need physical sensation from both bodies:


To begin the technique, after selecting any arbitrary moment, the caster uses their Sharingan to remember the physical sensations both of their body and that of their opponent's during that instant like a photograph (represented as: A). The user must then intentionally replicate the same sensation and in the same way, memorise that instant with their Sharingan (represented as: A'). Izanami overlaps and connects these two identical bodily sensations (A and A'), as well as the flow of time between them, creating an infinite loop of events that entraps the opponent's consciousness
 

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Itachi still wouldn't win.
EMS Sasuke has no counter to Yata Mirror, that is true. But guess who's wasting chakra and being pushed on the defensive? Itachi.

EMS Sasuke wins by outlasting his older brother.
 

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Well from what you just read you'd know all izanami does is record anything the opponent does, then put them in a loop of that given situation

Itachi didn't have to get stabbed to put kabuto in, that just happened when he started recording
Actually, never mind, Izanami does need physical sensation from you and the opponent. He said use your ocular powers to snap shot a record of any senses that both you and your opponent are feeling during that instant. Itachi did need to be stabbed again by Kabuto to replicate Izanami since that was the sensation they were both sharing.

Your explanation makes it look like he can record for example Sasuke picking up the same object twice and then put him in Izanami, but that isn't the case.

Disregard my last post. Sasuke still wins this. Izanami won't be activated.
 
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