Open your eyes,the proof is infront of you!

[new sage of 6 paths]

Well not entirely true... What about itachi? His susanoo sword seals anything n everything in genjutsu within his susanoo and he also used a high rank seal on sasuke Tensha Fūin: Amaterasu. So you're a bit wrong there

Where uchiha's noted to be a hax sealing clan?!!!! No!!
Was itachi noted to be a haxed sealer?!!! No!!!
He used an Uzumaki sealing tech,doesn't mean he's a masterful sealer!

 

[blackstar9]

What? Uzumakis didn't exist when the sage was alive. Neither did the senju or uchiha for that matter. The manga said his elder son possessed the sages eyes. His descendants became the uchiha. The younger son had the sages body his descendant became the senju. The uzumaki came from the senju lineage. How can the sage be an uzamaki and they didn't exist until after his sons descendant? ???? That doesn't make sense! !!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Am waiting for Kinghashirama!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

What? Uzumakis didn't exist when the sage was alive. Neither did the senju or uchiha for that matter. The manga said his elder son possessed the sages eyes. His descendants became the uchiha. The younger son had the sages body his descendant became the senju. The uzumaki came from the senju lineage. How can the sage be an uzamaki and they didn't exist until after his sons descendant? ???? That doesn't make sense! !!

The uzumaki where a relative of senju,manga never said they originated from senju....
How come Uzumaki's knew fuinjutsu so well..
Who taught them,because its neither the Uchiha's no the senju.....who,tell me?!!!

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Your theory is very good but i dont believe that the sage of six path belong to any clan for i believe at that time there where no clans
But maybe he had a third son maybe
Kishimoto is the boss

That's what all the people who don't agree with the theory thinks. But there isn't any proof that shows that there weren't any clans, there just wasn't any Shinobi clans. People only speculate that clans were made from shinobi's alone, when there are people around that aren't shinobi.

 

[rollin]

if the sage is an uzumaki why does it take all of kurama's chakra for naruto,an uzumaki, to resemble the sage's "body"?
the younger son inherited the sage's "body" as well and then his blood thinned and so did his chakra,that's why naruto has to get all of kurama's chakra to resemble the sage's "body"(younger son)because he's a descendant.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

if the sage is an uzumaki why does it take all of kurama's chakra for naruto,an uzumaki, to resemble the sage's "body"?
the younger son inherited the sage's "body" as well and then his blood thinned and so did his chakra,that's why naruto has to get all of kurama's chakra to resemble the sage's "body"(younger son)because he's a descendant.

Maybe because Naruto has yet to unlock his full potential?

It doesn't mean that all Uzumakis should resemble Rikudou in terms of power, Rikudou was one of a kind, by that logic then even Karin would be Rikudou-level which she isn't. Naruto could be, like Rikudou, a "mutation" a "one of a kind" Uzumaki. that came out after successive generations since Rikudou Sennin.

And the Uzumakis couldn't have been descendants because Kushina said the Uzumakis and Senjus were distant blood relatives, if the Uzumakis were descendants then they would be direct/immediate relatives

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

That's what all the people who don't agree with the theory thinks. But there isn't any proof that shows that there weren't any clans, there just wasn't any Shinobi clans. People only speculate that clans were made from shinobi's alone, when there are people around that aren't shinobi.

Yep,pretty much!

 

[Retsu]

I still say he's a mixture of uzumaki, senju, uchiha, and hyuuga. ppl act like since he has sealing jutsu's that mean he's exclusively uzumaki, but all it means is that they branched out from him like everyone else.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

if the sage is an uzumaki why does it take all of kurama's chakra for naruto,an uzumaki, to resemble the sage's "body"?
the younger son inherited the sage's "body" as well and then his blood thinned and so did his chakra,that's why naruto has to get all of kurama's chakra to resemble the sage's "body"(younger son)because he's a descendant.

Don't you get it??????
The sage looked like Naruto in BM prior to Him gaining access to juubi's chakra!!!
Anytime he turns his own chakra mode on,he has the same soulhette naruto has In BM...
Its the work of that seal that enables the same look.
And the son inherited it from the father who already possesed the ability!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

I still say he's a mixture of uzumaki, senju, uchiha, and hyuuga. ppl act like since he has sealing jutsu's that mean he's exclusively uzumaki, but all it means is that they branched out from him like everyone else.

Time will tell...
But am 99% sure he is!

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Has anyone ever thought about how long the Uzumaki's have been around. The manga said that they were blessed with exceptionally long lives. This could mean that they were around longer than other clans...
I'm not saying it's fact, I'm just saying it might be a possibility.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Has anyone ever thought about how long the Uzumaki's have been around. The manga said that they were blessed with exceptionally long lives. This could mean that they were around longer than other clans...
I'm not saying it's fact, I'm just saying it might be a possibility.

Yeah,ave taken that into account!

 

[blackstar9]

The uzumaki where a relative of senju,manga never said they originated from senju....
How come Uzumaki's knew fuinjutsu so well..
Who taught them,because its neither the Uchiha's no the senju.....who,tell me?!!!

Ok ill give you they were a distant relative. Still the uchiha and senju were the first clans mentioned as being direct descendants of the sages sons. Even if you want to argue the uzamaki came about a same time not after or from senju. Both of them senju and uzamaki are after the sages death . Since both clans come descend from his son. You feel me ,anybody coming after his son he predates them.you can't come from a clan you predate.

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

if the sage is an uzumaki why does it take all of kurama's chakra for naruto,an uzumaki, to resemble the sage's "body"?
the younger son inherited the sage's "body" as well and then his blood thinned and so did his chakra,that's why naruto has to get all of kurama's chakra to resemble the sage's "body"(younger son)because he's a descendant.

Have you thought about the Juubi's influence on his body. The manga said he became a god when he sealed the Juubi inside of himself. It isn't hard to believe that the Juubi amplified his abilities and that's what the younger son inherited. Kurama is only a portion of the Juubi's chakra, so Naruto actually gained that with a portion of the juubi's chakra

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Ok ill give you they were a distant relative. Still the uchiha and senju were the first clans mentioned as being direct descendants of the sages sons. Even if you want to argue the uzamaki came about a same time not after or from senju. Both of them senju and uzamaki are after the sages death . Since both clans come descend from his son. You feel me ,anybody coming after his son he predates them.you can't come from a clan you predate.

Simply because the manga was focusing on the Senju and Uchiha, who are descendants of the younger and older son. Now near the end they are starting to reveal more things about the Uzumaki

EDIT: and everyone knows, the most important things are always revealed last

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Simply because the manga was focusing on the Senju and Uchiha, who are descendants of the younger and older son. Now near the end they are starting to reveal more things about the Uzumaki

Yeah, and wasn't the Hyuuga Clan said to be older than Uchiha and Senju? (being the oldest clan in Konoha) so isn't it possible that the Uzumakis were older than Uchiha and Senju?

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

Yeah, and wasn't the Hyuuga Clan said to be older than Uchiha and Senju? (being the oldest clan in Konoha) so isn't it possible that the Uzumakis were older than Uchiha and Senju?

Yeah, people don't pay attention to these things.

 

[Kronnic]

Good theory bro. Time will.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Yeah, people don't pay attention to these things.

I think others have a misconception that Rikudou was Adam (the first man) and the Elder and Younger son were like Cain and Abel, that they were the first people to exist, this is simply not true, since Jiraiya said the Sage spread the teachings of ninshu and the way of peace in a time of constant war and strife, and the most prominent warring faction in the manga are clans or families, clans must have existed during the Sage's era, albeit non-ninjutsu wielders.