why do people disregard manga facts

[Sot viing hun]

Some people really like to disregard the manga sometimes, Hashirama is on another level, and only Madara with kyuubi could stand a chance on a 1 on 1, that much is obvious.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

but the manga has not stated if he was lieing xd logic flawed

He lied about him being Madara this whole time... I dont know how much you could believe what hes said given that

At this point it is unkown how much of what he said was a lie

 

[KingHashirama]

He said the only one that could stand a chance was Hashirama
not
The only one who can beat me is Hashirama

"PEople called him the strongest shinobi" - Madara


And what Madara taught to Obito was that, "Hashirama is the most feared and the strongest of his time" ;]

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Too bad Naruto is going to surpass everyone.

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[TheSages456]

its pretty obvious that hashirama is the strongest shinobi in history. its been implied since the start of shipudden. he beat 2 of the strongest entities in the narutoverse(bar juubi) which is 100% kyuubi & perfect susano combined and still lived after the fight.

he fodderizes anyone not named madara(obviously not including rikudo sennin).

 

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

its pretty obvious that hashirama is the strongest shinobi in history. its been implied since the start of shipudden. he beat 2 of the strongest entities in the narutoverse(bar juubi) which is 100% kyuubi & perfect susano combined and still lived after the fight.

he fodderizes anyone not named madara(obviously not including rikudo sennin).

yep, well shishui could be a potential problem

 

[TheSages456]

yep, well shishui could be a potential problem

yet pre-sharingan danzo already countered koto.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

"PEople called him the strongest shinobi" - Madara


And what Madara taught to Obito was that, "Hashirama is the most feared and the strongest of his time" ;]

Yes Notice how Madara says People meaning that this was only an opinion and not a fact and please show me a page of Madara telling this to Obito if you can i will give you rep and drop the subject

 

[TheSages456]

Yes Notice how Madara says People meaning that this was only an opinion and not a fact and please show me a page of Madara telling this to Obito if you can i will give you rep and drop the subject

madara already called hashirama the ultimate shinobi which means that even he doesnt regard himself as a shinobi of that status.

 

[~Madara Uchiha~]

madara already called hashirama the ultimate shinobi which means that even he doesnt regard himself as a shinobi of that status.

Please give me the page of him saying Hashirama is stronger

 

[KingHashirama]

Yes Notice how Madara says People meaning that this was only an opinion and not a fact and please show me a page of Madara telling this to Obito if you can i will give you rep and drop the subject

..... Madara is the one who taught Obito everything.. its pretty common sense. Of course you want to be a die hard manga proof kind of a Madara fan. Then where does it say Madara = Hashirama?

Madara Uchiha thinks higher of Hashirama.

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[TheSages456]

Please give me the page of him saying Hashirama is stronger

madara calling hashirama the ultimate shinobi means that he holds hashirama to a pedestal that he himself isnt on. hashirama is the ultimate shinobi in madara eyes, not himself. i hope you realize this before opening the spoiler.

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[~Madara Uchiha~]

..... Madara is the one who taught Obito everything.. its pretty common sense. Of course you want to be a die hard manga proof kind of a Madara fan. Then where does it say Madara = Hashirama?

Madara Uchiha thinks higher of Hashirama.

madara calling hashirama the ultimate shinobi means that he holds hashirama to a pedestal that he himself isnt on. hashirama is the ultimate shinobi in madara eyes, not himself. i hope you realize this before opening the spoiler.

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Just because Madara taught Obito doesnt mean he told him Hashirama is stronger xD

Notice how Madara says was

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

kabutos opinion isnt a manga fact and he himself contradicted it by saying hes invincible. kabuto wasnt watching naruto and bee vs obito and so wouldnt know their limitations

madara himself said hashi>> himself

dont twist his words. he said if anyone could beat him in a fight, itd be hashirama. doesnt mean hashirama is 2 levels above him in every way. hes drawing off a very small sample and hasnt met every shinobi ever

madara already called hashirama the ultimate shinobi

he said hashirmaa was called strongest shinobi. he never said he agreed. also if he was worldwide considered the best why did madara think he could beat him at VOTE?

its pretty obvious that hashirama is the strongest shinobi in history. its been implied since the start of shipudden. he beat 2 of the strongest entities in the narutoverse(bar juubi) which is 100% kyuubi & perfect susano combined and still lived after the fight.

kabutos stronger. he can summon madara as an immortal and has one of the strongest moves around (meteors), and he can summon mu who can jinton spam hashi. not to mention kyuubi chakra bros

yet pre-sharingan danzo already countered koto.

yet its almost certain he had root anbu guards with him and we dont know what happened

he fodderizes anyone not named madara(obviously not including rikudo sennin).

madaras part of kabutos army

And what Madara taught to Obito was that, "Hashirama is the most feared and the strongest of his time" ;]

obito said that himself. no proof madara told him that

 

[KingHashirama]

Just because Madara taught Obito doesnt mean he told him Hashirama is stronger xD

Notice how Madara says was

........ Hes the only one who knew what happened back then.. lmao.

kabutos stronger. he can summon madara as an immortal and has one of the strongest moves around (meteors), and he can summon mu who can jinton spam hashi. not to mention kyuubi chakra bros


yet its almost certain he had root anbu guards with him and we dont know what happened
madaras part of kabutos army
obito said that himself. no proof madara told him that

Kabuto: "noone alive is on par with the first hokage"... So you pick was Kabuto considering Edo tensei his power or not.

@ Bold. Madara is the only who knows the past. Obito was talking on Madara's behalf. And nothing Madara said has gone against that. ;]. Obito had no reason to hype up a senju..

 

[TheSages456]

Just because Madara taught Obito doesnt mean he told him Hashirama is stronger xD

Notice how Madara says was

do you know what context is? go back & retake your english classes in school. you refer to dead people in past tense as they're not there anymore.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

madara calling hashirama the ultimate shinobi means that he holds hashirama to a pedestal that he himself isnt on. hashirama is the ultimate shinobi in madara eyes, not himself

yet at VOTE he believed he could beat hashi. actions speak louder than words. also VIZ isnt always correct. if madara really thinks hashiramas this unbeatable god he would not have tried to rebel against him

 

[Obito3631]

Kabuto, Oro and Obito soloes, that's all.

 

[Michio Kaku]

I believe it's because certain thins in the manga maybe debatable and/or personal bias.

 

[FleeOnSight]

thank you! a idiot from that top 10 list thread completely disregarded the fact that the manga said that no one alive is as strong as hashirama yet he still said that kabuto and obito can beat him. smh