Do you think konoha was right for persecuting the uchiha?

[Disneyfanforever]

I am still thinking about this, so I want to know your answers.

 

[Brooks]

No

Saying yes would make me look like a complete ignorant fool like Danzo.

 

[saw2097]

Its a complicated situation, its easy to argue both angles.

 

[andreuchiha]

No because I certainly think they should have valued uchiha more and from the looks of things we have Tobirama to blame for that. Also I believe if they had gone through with the coup de`tat that either itachi or their dad would have been Hokage so the leaf would had a Uchiha Hokage . which I think they were long overdue it.

 

[Elio]

No they should have just let the uchiha take over and possibly murder all the jews

That's not funny.

Its a complicated situation, its easy to argue both angles.

Agreed.

 

[zamki]

It is just a big NO

 

[YellowFang]

No, because of human rights and yes, also because of human rights....

By not subjugating Uchiha, the fear that a new Madara might arose from within them is still for which not Konoha but Uchiha should have tried to agreed a sentiment but because of their 'high noses' attitude, they remain suspicious... Hence, calling forth the misfortune upon them....

And by doing so, Konoha finally got rid of that danger but it was IMO Ok decision when Uchiha started to rebel... before that it was both parties fault.... Tobirama was a strict ruler, he doesn't wanted anyone who could easily en-danger his village.... And Uchiha were of arrogant behavior, which can be considered a sign of not loyal.....

 

[blackstar9]

No the leaf handled the uchiha unfairly. Most of the clan turned on madara because they were tired of fighting. And wanted peace. How does tobirama. Reward them. By isolating them from the other clans. And having anbu spy on them. Good way to make them feel wanted tobirama. Also hiruzen deserves. Blame for letting danzo have to much power. Might as well say danzo was calling the shots. Now the uchiha was wrong for plotting against the village. No doubt about that. But madara predicted uchiha would be persecuted and they were

 

[YellowFang]

No because I certainly think they should have valued uchiha more and from the looks of things we have Tobirama to blame for that. Also I believe if they had gone through with the coup de`tat that either itachi or their dad would have been Hokage so the leaf would had a Uchiha Hokage . which I think they were long overdue it.

An Uchiha Hokage over the dead bodies of villagers???, that's where I start hating Uchiha....

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

YES, there was no way around it.
the uchiha were becoming too dangerous, too convinced with taking over (they view it as their rightful place) and didn't care about the outcomes of their actions (a weak and vulnerable konoha with many dead people). the right thing to do might not be always pretty .... BUT it was the only option.

 

[yondaime4]

YES, there was no way around it.
the uchiha were becoming too dangerous, too convinced with taking over (they view it as their rightful place) and didn't care about the outcomes of their actions (a weak and vulnerable konoha with many dead people). the right thing to do might not be always pretty .... BUT it was the only option.

persecution is never the only option adolf, they signed the truce and renounced madara, from then they should have been accepted as leaf ninja or not at all.
i mean tobirama is responsible for fanning the flames and causing the uchiha to revolt, it was that or live as konohas bitches wich the uchiha clearly werent going to.

Its a complicated situation, its easy to argue both angles.

i think this is the best answer, its never easy to forgive but if you dont, your hate will just breed more hate like naruto and nagato learned. too bad tobirama didnt learn from hashiramas example.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

persecution is never the only option adolf, they signed the truce and renounced madara, from then they should have been accepted as leaf ninja or not at all.
i mean tobirama is responsible for fanning the flames and causing the uchiha to revolt, it was that or live as konohas bitches wich the uchiha clearly werent going to.

they never viewed themselves as shinobi's of the leaf. not like itachi (one of them), and because of that they didn't care about the problems their movement will cause. "not killing" is a nice thing to say, but it is the only way to stop the one who causes trouble (even the main hero does it). tobirama understood what the uchiha's were about and acted based on his knowledge (emotional train wrecks). there was no way to convince the uchiha otherwise, but if you have another solution (other than killing them), then please go ahead, am listening ....

 

[Ssoul Eater]

First off It was not the whole village fault, some elders decided they were a threat to konoha and thought It was wise to eliminate them. Secondly I think If It were Senjus instead of Uchihas, the same would have happened to them. Konoha's safety was top priority and they live in a completely different world, It's just how it works in their world.

 

[saltal]

I don't think there is enough information to answer that. If Tobirama's claim is true, that developing the Sharingan always causes the person to become full of hatred and turn to evil, then eliminating only the Ninjas who were part of the coup plan would not be enough, because any remaining Uchiha (even the nice aunt and uncle) would develop into a monster, due to the trauma of having their clanmates killed. Arresting them and holding them in prison was not an option - they formed the police force and were too powerful to be kept prisoners.

The ones who made the decision to eliminate the Uchihas were not Tobirama, but Hiruzen and Itachi. Itachi already admitted to Sasuke that he may have made a mistake, by which I think he meant that he himself carried the same prejudices. i don't know what Hiruzen believes.

Obviously this does not answer the question. As I said we don't have enough info.

 

[GeniusStyleUser]

the uchihas pride, arrogance and hate were their own downfall.

 

[SixPathsOfTobi]

no definitely not.. especially considering the uchiha were fodder that couldn't stand up against itachi and obito.

 

[Almighty Ra]

It was wrong for it to go that way but if it hadn't war would have broken out and both sides would have died in numbers. Sometimes sacrifices are made for the great good but it was still wrong they all were killed .

 

[ItachiStyle]

I posted this in a thread about the 9 Tails attack, and it's still just as relevant now:

For all we know they were in on it, and planned to take over after the village leadership was killed.

There is room to argue about the Uchiha being treated a little harshly, but at the end of the day everyone in the village respected (or at least feared) the genius of their clan, and they got the protection and peace from the village being created. What did they lose? They had to live in a "ghetto" (a very nice looking one, really just a different district of the village), and the village was a bit suss about letting one of them become Hokage. They got to act as the police force though, and clearly many Uchiha had chances to excel in the village. Remember when Sasuke is taken to the academy by his father? Nobody treats him as an outsider, everyone loves the guy... "he's so amazing!", etc. Sasuke was the popular kid. He receives no discrimination, he gets top grades, and the villagers by and large love him (even if a few of the adults are very concerned about the clan). The teacher has nothing but praise for Itachi, and both the objective Uchiha's (Itachi and Shi Sui) seem to have decided their clan was sacrificing the village's interests for petty reasons.

To add to this:
- The village elders (non-Uchiha ones) had good cause to be worried about the Uchiha apparently, as many of them went crazy, of whom Madara was but one. We hear the same not only from Tobirama, but Itachi, who among other things explains the origin of Izanami (to stop Uchiha who became power mad with Izanagi).
- We don't know that any Uchiha were overlooked as Hokage either. It seems like Hashi was legitimately more powerful (as well as more popular) with the villagers. No Uchiha we know of during Tobirama's reign stand out as stronger as far as we know, and the same holds true of Hiruzen (mainly because we know so little about him). There were other ninja who stand out as great Hokage candidates, like the Sannin and Minato. For all we know Itachi and Shi sui would have been chosen as Hokage's if they had stayed, so maybe if the Uchiha had been patient they'd have gotten what they wanted anyway. Minato even takes an Uchiha into his team, to mentor him, and as we all know the students of a Hokage often end up being Hokage themselves, so I still fail to see the justification for a coup. Their complaints amount to "we never got a Hokage" (out of what, 3 goes at the time?), and "we had to live in a somewhat isolated district". Doesn't the majority count at all? Clearly the majority were very happy with the 5 Hokage chosen.

 

[Reverie]

As far as I can remember, the Uchiha weren't "persecuted" in Tobirama's time. The real hate only started after the Nine-Tails attack on the village.

 

[veggetta13]

You got a bunch of psychos, emotionally unstable and, very agressive?
KILL´em´All