Can hiraishin render Kamui useless? Read first please.

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I'm posting this thread on whether Hiraishin can render Kamui useless assuming that the hiraishin seal Minato placed on Obito still holds.

I mean, can he hiraishin to the dimension Obito's body goes to when he use Kamui? (Please, no flame war, I'm not a fanboy, nor trying to make anyone over-powered or anything, this is mere curiosity)

He was caught offguard when Minato hiraishined to him 'that night'. But, I don't think Obito is the one to let his guard down like that and make himself vulnerable to exploitation, especially in front of the fastest shinobi to ever live, and right after he was outwitted. So can it be that when Minato teleported and placed the contract seal on him, he was actually intangible?
 

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who is hiraishin? this is naruto right?
 

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Oh please, You know what I meant, right? FTG. Please don't play dump.
 

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Yeah probably.
 

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I'm posting this thread on whether Hiraishin can render Kamui useless assuming that the hiraishin seal Minato placed on Obito still holds.

I mean, can he hiraishin to the dimension Obito's body goes to when he use Kamui? (Please, no flame war, I'm not a fanboy, nor trying to make anyone over-powered or anything, this is mere curiosity)

He was caught offguard when Minato hiraishined to him 'that night'. But, I don't think Obito is the one to let his guard down like that and make himself vulnerable to exploitation, especially in front of the fastest shinobi to ever live, and right after he was outwitted. So can it be that when Minato teleported and placed the contract seal on him, he was actually intangible?

U hav to remember obito was only 15 at the time just getting the hang of kamui and its time interval while I don't like minato particularly myself I must admit he's quick to find weaknesses and is always on his toes
I don't think minato would cetch him as he so easily did
But oro could make minato sneak up on him thus surprising him idk who knows?
 

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I'm posting this thread on whether Hiraishin can render Kamui useless assuming that the hiraishin seal Minato placed on Obito still holds.

I mean, can he hiraishin to the dimension Obito's body goes to when he use Kamui? (Please, no flame war, I'm not a fanboy, nor trying to make anyone over-powered or anything, this is mere curiosity)

He was caught offguard when Minato hiraishined to him 'that night'. But, I don't think Obito is the one to let his guard down like that and make himself vulnerable to exploitation, especially in front of the fastest shinobi to ever live, and right after he was outwitted. So can it be that when Minato teleported and placed the contract seal on him, he was actually intangible?

you are wrong he wasnt intangible when minato placed the seal on him minato quickly figured out his tech and knew a counter for it which is his justsu which is a counter for everything (ftg) and minato cant go to another deminsion he's not goku using instant transmission lol
 

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U hav to remember obito was only 15 at the time just getting the hang of kamui and its time interval while I don't like minato particularly myself I must admit he's quick to find weaknesses and is always on his toes
I don't think minato would cetch him as he so easily did
But oro could make minato sneak up on him thus surprising him idk who knows?

it didnt matter if obito was 15 or 40 minato still would have figured it out and u dnt knw if he was just now figuring out how his kamui works so dnt say it im pretty sure he trained before showing up to konoha knowing minato was there and hiruzen and other shinobi who were stronger than him at the time and age aint shit naruto and sasuke whoop ass and their like 16 or 17
 

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it didnt matter if obito was 15 or 40 minato still would have figured it out and u dnt knw if he was just now figuring out how his kamui works so dnt say it im pretty sure he trained before showing up to konoha knowing minato was there and hiruzen and other shinobi who were stronger than him at the time and age aint shit naruto and sasuke whoop ass and their like 16 or 17

oh yeah huh cuz minato is soo good like he can beat the nine tails madara hashi and probably the juubi too all minato is speed thats why he is weak
 

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I can possibly see that. since the F.T.G. is technically a space-time ninjutsu. But depending on the distance of the other dimension and the amount of charka he might use up, may leave him to weak to fight Obito right away.
 

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ya probably he can go to the other dimension too because like kamui hiraishin is also a type of spacetime jutsu.But I dont think the seal which he placed on tobi still holds now he must have removed it out of precaution.
hishiarin is the only jutsu in my knowledge which can handy agaist kamui...
 
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you are wrong he wasnt intangible when minato placed the seal on him minato quickly figured out his tech and knew a counter for it which is his justsu which is a counter for everything (ftg) and minato cant go to another deminsion he's not goku using instant transmission lol

I don't think we can be sure on whether Minato's S/T jutsus could cross dimensions. Personally, I think he can. He teleports himself to the seal's location, no matter the distance in an instant. If thats what FTG's manner of working is, and he got a seal on Obito's body, then it would mean when Obito uses Kamui to make his body go to another dimension, and Minato's seal teleports him to the location of the seal, Minato could teleport him to the dimension Kamui takes Obito to.

This of-course is merely an assumption, and a possibility. I can very well be wrong.
 

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I can possibly see that. since the F.T.G. is technically a space-time ninjutsu. But depending on the distance of the other dimension and the amount of charka he might use up, may leave him to weak to fight Obito right away.

Wait, I though in the case of FTG distance or time didn't matter but the size of what you teleport. I mean, he said teleporting something big consumes his chakra, but there was no mention of the distance affecting his chakra reserves, after all the main purpose of an S/T jutsu is to bypass the barriers of time and distance/\.
 

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I don't think we can be sure on whether Minato's S/T jutsus could cross dimensions. Personally, I think he can. He teleports himself to the seal's location, no matter the distance in an instant. If thats what FTG's manner of working is, and he got a seal on Obito's body, then it would mean when Obito uses Kamui to make his body go to another dimension, and Minato's seal teleports him to the location of the seal, Minato could teleport him to the dimension Kamui takes Obito to.

This of-course is merely an assumption, and a possibility. I can very well be wrong.

I totly agree with u...
 
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It prolly doesn't make minato immune to kamui but ftg is likely one of the best defenses against it. There isn't any evidence that these two techniques lead to the same dimension. It would all come down to speed: could kamui be quick enough to catch minato?
I got the impression, that if obito laid his hands on you... You were pretty much boned. If I remember right minato did phase out once even after obito go his hands on him. And with kakashi's kamui it's more fast enough to phase a nail flying through space, though we dont know the limits if i's speed.
 

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It prolly doesn't make minato immune to kamui but ftg is likely one of the best defenses against it. There isn't any evidence that these two techniques lead to the same dimension. It would all come down to speed: could kamui be quick enough to catch minato?
I got the impression, that if obito laid his hands on you... You were pretty much boned. If I remember right minato did phase out once even after obito go his hands on him. And with kakashi's kamui it's more fast enough to phase a nail flying through space, though we dont know the limits if i's speed.

The two techniques of course doesn't lead to the same dimension, infact, FTG doesn't take you to ANY new dimension. What I was trying to point out was that if Minato's FTG seal on Obito's body still holds, he can (hopefully) teleport to where Obito's body is, even if it is in the dimension Kamui takes Obito's body to.
 

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ftg crossing to obito's kumai dimension? IDK, i think the kages are going to fight obito in gai and kakashi's plan, strike when he absorbs.
 

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It's just two fellows trying to see who space time jutsu is better. >o>
 
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