[Theory] Madara to be Talk No Jutsued

[saw2097]

Is it just me or is Kishi setting up a TNJ for Madara Uchiha.

1. Sasori and Shin both faded away after being TNJ, this has not been touched on sense and it wouldn't make sense if Kishi introduced such a concept and didn't bring it back.

2. Madara is pretty close to being invincible, Genjutsu and Ninjutsu are useless against him and it would be kinda hard to picture how they defeat him in battle.

3. Kishi has begun to humanize Madara Uchiha, just this last chapter he mentions the whole a world were people understand eachother idea.

Is it just me or is there a set up for TNJ here?

 

[markdabomb22]

if it happens im going to punch a kitten

 

[mikeeozua]

Nah, Obito/Madara will die for the eye of the moon all the way until the end

 

[Champ]

Everybody in Naruto can't be a bitch and just forgive Madara. He'll be sealed not tnj

 

[Sephy100]

Madara cannot be TnJ's to, maybe Obito since he and Madara don't really get along

 

[-immortal-]

lol if that happens...
i ain't gonne watch/read this anymore
haha

 

[xCrystalChidorix]

I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened. I do think that Hashi will get to fight him once more before that though, if TNJ is the case.

 

[Disneyfanforever]

He better not, madara is not meant to become good. Obito on the other hand has a slight chance. but unless kishi wants more haters, he better not do that

 

[mikeeozua]

Nope. This isn't Kishimoto setting up Madara's "humanity" or "good side" or whatever. It's Kishimoto setting up how he's lost it and how far gone he truly is.

Obito, on the other hand, has been begging to get TnJ'd for a while now :|

Begging? How? also agreed

 

[shelke]

If this happens, Kishi has a FTG-ed foot coming up his ass. Stop bitching good characters, you moron.

 

[mikeeozua]

He keeps trying to get people to give up and he keeps trying to compare himself to Naruto. If you ask me that's practically begging to be shot down in one way or another.

He's trying to convince them that the world they are defending is useless, and Obito is comparing himself to Naruto because Naruto will fall to hatred as well and become just like him

 

[phantomlord22]

Madara is far away from that
tobi is more like falling for TNJ

 

[Draxus]

If Hashi couldn't do it when they were alive, why would it work after they're dead?

 

[yoshimitsu]

Obito is more likely to get talk-no-jutsu'd. It would totally kill the story if Madara can be swayed by Naruto

 

[LilyRose]

Personally I wouldn't mind if Madara got TNJ'ed by the combined efforts of Hashi and Naruto. But I want Kakashi to pull Obito aside and just give him a good smacking, maybe with some help from Minato.

 

[htmwall]

you all should stop overrating tnj,it only happens when the enemy is competely spent or got beaten in his own game.

 

[hamer34]

if that was the case it would have worked in hashi and madara's first fight

 

[Kikki]

It's possible. If he was just meant to be killed/sealed, Kishi wouldn't put effort into making him understandable. He'd stay a monster and die a monster.

I doubt it's just tnj though. He lived too long to just change for fun. It will take time to get him to get rid of his own stubbornness. And he will probably only accept changes a tiny bit. It will probably just be dying with a few positive thoughts and a smile on the face, not a full tnj victim death like Nagato.

But a couple times, he was surprised about the army and all. And he truly respects Hashi and wants to meet with him again I think. Plus he is already losing. Got betrayed, juubi kicked him off, Obito took control. He is NOT winning.

What do guys really think? It will be a one against everybody ending? No, too flat and simple. Also not a Hashi rematch, too flat, predictable, simple and dangerous for the living.

It will be something complex.

I liked the theory someone posted last week. He did create peace by uniting and fighting the army. Maybe he will understand it. Or it will be fighting against a common enemy like the juubi. Kishi will not do anything flat and predictable, that's for sure.

 

[Kikki]

you all should stop overrating tnj,it only happens when the enemy is competely spent or got beaten in his own game.

I think he already is beaten. What can he do? Obito won't revive him plus the juubi in front of him and the army in his back. Again, he already lost. His plan to achieve peace by force failed and yet he created peace one way or the other. He might get a eternal loser actually won ending. Would be very very decent.

if that was the case it would have worked in hashi and madara's first fight.

He changed alot after being defeated by Hashi. He stopped attacking the village, went into hiding and wanted peace instead of war. Of course, he was insane and his plan is retarded but he did change quite abit.

People, get ready and be open-minded. It's Kishi's writing that we are reading and he did the most unexpected things before. He will do it again.

 

[Gingin]

There is the possibility that he wont be defeated or sealed but will in the end find peace and release himself. Yes Madara may indeed fall to your infamous TNJ but if he does I do not believe it will be Naruto who sways him, it will be the one person he truely respects Hashirama.
I can imagine quite easily them engaging once more in battle and Hashirama asking him to "Remember when we were boys...we wanted a peace where no more children had to die..where no more little brothers were lost because adults could not agree to stop fighting. Look at the children who are dying right now...this isnt the peace that YOU wanted..."
If anyone can change him it will be Harashima, who knew him as a boy, who knew his dreams and who cared for him both as a friend and as a brother with the same dreams. I think he will at last find his peace during this final confrontation with Hashirama and they will release Edo together and move on.
...and that's my two cents...