[Discussion] Hashirama,Tobirama,Madara Questions?!

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Ok so let me get to the point Hashirama was killed by old age?!
Because if he was Killed by another ninja then that means that the ninja that killed him would be "God of Shinobi"

So that being said he died From old age or another ninja or many ninjas?!

Now Tobimara Died From the war I know that & In that time they had many ninjas stronger than him !
But in my opinion a kisame has many powerful water styles & he is the strongest water user to me because no one has killed him but him self!

& Kisame had his sword (forgot what it was Called) Chakra shredder , He would steal chakra & He was called the no tailed beast For a Reason Right?!

& Madara were kinda at same level When he was alive, & he activated renningan Before dying , & Kabuto Did not do anything to him because, Madara had Hashirama cells renningan & Full Susanoo!

So what I'm asking is Did Kabuto Do anything To Madara before resurrecting him Or did he say " I resurrected you in your prime , so now your stronger then before you died" ?!
 

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Kabuto created madara more than what he was in his prime, refering to senju dna and mokuton
 

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Kabuto made Madara young, he might have done something with Senju DNA but I'm not sure.
Hashi died in some war, we don't know how he died yet though but I wouldn't just assume some ninja came along and killed him, there's probably more to it than that.
Tobirama is known as the best water-user in the manga, there's nothing that can take that away from him. We'll probably get more proof on his abilities in the next few weeks or so if we see him in action.
 

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Im guessing he died during the first shinobi war.
 

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Kabuto revived Madara with the body he had in his prime, with the Rinnegan he had in old age.
 

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We still don't know exactly how Tobirama was killed, how hard he fought or what not. Its only speculation until we know for sure! He is probably far stronger then we realize or think, i don't care how powerful one is, when you're being attacked by several high ranking and insane jo-nins its going to be a fight for your life.
 

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I think it's when he was said to have died by hashi that prime...... But a more serious question is who killed Pikon?? He was able to go against goku in super saiyan and was equally matched when they were fighting for the kais. Like seriously who killed that dude...
 

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Kabuto gave madara wood stlye. In my opinion until tobirama shows some feats kisame is the best water style user. Kisame created a large body of water even though no watqer was around !
 

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he was a Special Trumb Card
 

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I think it's when he was said to have died by hashi that prime...... But a more serious question is who killed Pikon?? He was able to go against goku in super saiyan and was equally matched when they were fighting for the kais. Like seriously who killed that dude...

Never thought about that, that's a good question. He probably died either trying to save someone or some illness. That is how all OP good guy characters in manga die.
 

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Seems a recurrent theme that HOKAGES die sacraficing themselves for the village
So I suspect that is how Hashi died

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Kabuto created madara more than what he was in his prime, refering to senju dna and mokuton
how could he bring him back before his prime, When he was in a cave transferring Hashirama cells in his Body for years!
& He got mokuton by activating rennigan So he Been Had It, & Kabuto knew nothing of Madara Uchiha!
That's Why he wanted to see what he wanted to do!


Kabuto made Madara young, he might have done something with Senju DNA but I'm not sure.
Hashi died in some war, we don't know how he died yet though but I wouldn't just assume some ninja came along and killed him, there's probably more to it than that.
Tobirama is known as the best water-user in the manga, there's nothing that can take that away from him. We'll probably get more proof on his abilities in the next few weeks or so if we see him in action.

Yea I remember Hashirama Died of old age.
 

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hashi definitely didn't die of old age
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and i think what kabuto meant by making madara beyond his prime was that he gave madara mokuton, i think the senju dna only gave him the "body",life-force,and yang chakra for rinnegan
madara planted live tissue cells from his fight with hashi, people who use mokuton from hashi's dna used it because of white zetsu or because they were experiments
 
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We still don't know exactly how Tobirama was killed, how hard he fought or what not. Its only speculation until we know for sure! He is probably far stronger then we realize or think, i don't care how powerful one is, when you're being attacked by several high ranking and insane jo-nins its going to be a fight for your life.

he was killed by 20 cloud ninja from the kinkaku unit team tobirama was surrounded which included hiruzen danzou torifu kagami and the current advisers of konoha...tobirama chose to die and appointed hiruzen the title of hokage but before that hiruzen chose to be the decoy and said to everybody its fine i might not look it but u knw im stronger than anybody here i will survive but tobirama intervened and chose to be the decoy and died
 

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hashirama probably did die of old age or in the war my theory is this...hashirama's healing techs were just like tsunade and just like tsunade they shorten your life span and whose fought harder than hashirama its probably countless times he had to heal himself and probably the madara fight alone he had to heal himself a considerable amount of times but like i said he could have died in the war but was not prime because of the medical jutsu's he's used in his earlier life which caused him at that point to be older than he should
 

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I think Hashirama died due to loss of Chakra after his battle with Madara at Valley of the end.... :D :D
He defeated Madara first and then died due to loss of Chakra.... :D :D
 

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how could he bring him back before his prime, When he was in a cave transferring Hashirama cells in his Body for years!
& He got mokuton by activating rennigan So he Been Had It, & Kabuto knew nothing of Madara Uchiha!
That's Why he wanted to see what he wanted to do!




Yea I remember Hashirama Died of old age.

again edo tensi brings a person back in there prime madara was brought back better than his prime the rinnegan came when madara was over 100 and i say that because upon saving obito from that tree crushing him obito referred to him as his ancestor and madara's prime is in his youth as is everyone's is which he had the ems not rinnegan nor wood style which he obtained at an old age so so thanks to kabuto madara is enhanced beyond his prime
 

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again edo tensi brings a person back in there prime madara was brought back better than his prime the rinnegan came when madara was over 100 and i say that because upon saving obito from that tree crushing him obito referred to him as his ancestor and madara's prime is in his youth as is everyone's is which he had the ems not rinnegan nor wood style which he obtained at an old age so so thanks to kabuto madara is enhanced beyond his prime
But Did He Enhance Him?
 
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