So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

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So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

It's tough when comparing other characters in the world of Naruto cause frankly there is too damn much to go through. But reason why i like to reconsider Obito and who he is because the world he lives in reflects to the daily life issues we carry on as ourselves and this reality. Now I'm not saying that all of you are gonna force everyone to be hypnotized in a loophole genjutsu or anything. But just how he has dealt with issues in life and with the problems we all face.

• Suffering
• War
• Drama of a "teenage" boy/girl
• Depression
• Fatal adversities
• Domestic Violence
• Lies
• And other pangs of distress

We have all dealt with many obstacles in our lives and many of us all have to make choices. Weather right or wrong it does not matter. It is what you think is best. And I feel Obito under the circumstances of it all was under a lot a pressure and seeing he was brainwashed and torn inside and out. It's scars like that, that don't heal in one Talk No Jutsu.

Obito is not evil. There is no one that's truly evil in Naruto. He may feel what us is doing to be right in his eyes. Savior of the world. And he did what he can to reach his goal. Turns out he's just a victim. Like everyone else. :|

I respect everyone has there own point of view so please comment in the manner that is erupt and kind.

Nagato is no different.
Naruto is no different.
Sasuke is no different.
Every Shinobi as well as our own has dealt with suffering. It's nothing new.
 
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Agreed, agreed, agreed.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Nagato had the right to do what he did.. Obito's just butthurt about the girl he liked that never liked him and got killed by Kakashi - thank god, she was prob another Sakura.

Could've just killed Kakashi and that's it.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

He is just betrayed by Kishi to looking stupid even though his intentions are completely valid. He is as I said, stupid looking while doing it.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

i agree man
 
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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

people with logic know this. haters gonna hate is all
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Nagato had the right to do what he did.. Obito's just butthurt about the girl he liked that never liked him and got killed by Kakashi - thank god, she was prob another Sakura.

Could've just killed Kakashi and that's it.
Nagato followed his own sense of justice as the Leaf did killed his parents. Obito however risked his life to protect his friends. Suffered from near fatal damage. Was brainwashed by a 100 year old guy. Wanting to protect the one he loved. And sees her dead. Look at my signature. Depressing.
He is just betrayed by Kishi to looking stupid even though his intentions are completely valid. He is as I said, stupid looking while doing it.

That's true. But he is confused.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Uchihas are too emotional.. Nuf said.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Uchihas are too emotional.. Nuf said.

They can't help it. It's part of there system which is BS. Love?

I admit Uchihas need to watch Drama Shows just so I can watch them cry as someone is being betrayed.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

They can't help it. It's part of there system which is BS. Love?

I admit Uchihas need to watch Drama Shows just so I can watch them cry as someone is being betrayed.

It must suck that excessive emotion is a genetic trait of theirs... Making things more complicated then what they really are....
Just imagine uchiha women.... Sheesh!
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

he's been under madara's genjutsu from the start, madara set him up by killing rin also
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

It must suck that excessive emotion is a genetic trait of theirs... Making things more complicated then what they really are....
Just imagine uchiha women.... Sheesh!

Uchiha women must be good in bed I supposed all that pent of emotion can led to more...errr stuff.

But yeah genetic trait. While annoying I supposed. It can't be helped. Sadly Sasuke is now in a stage where he does not know what the hell he is doing. Obito is confused. Madara is all crazy about killing everything in a fancy fashion.

Itachi is the only one that's not emotional.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

I wouldn't call this Obito's 'true nature', considering all he has gone through.

I get the need for villains, and Tobi being Obito was a brilliant move if you ask me - no one would have cared if it was Izuna or Kagami or whatever random individual you could think of. However, there are a few things that do bother me personally:

1 - The guy never shuts up. Seriously, it's like he's a broken CD or something. Maybe someone activated Izanami and he's just tossing around angrily in his little mind.

2 - Weak motivation. Now I know a lot of people will disagree with me: Madara did a fair bit of brainwashing, he saw his new best friend kill his crush and whatever. But remember he has been actively trying to escape into his own private Disneyworld for about what, half his life? And he suddenly stopped caring about EVERYTHING, including the guy who just murdered his crush which made him switch sides in the first place?

3 - He thinks he's justified. Now this is tricky, this can be done well, but I don't think it was in Obito's case. I had this same issue with Nagato and still have with Sasuke - they're not ENTITLED to anything. A tragic past doesn't mean they have the right to do as they damn please. He just comes across as a spoiled brat in need of spanking.

4 - I just wanted to keep one likeable Uchiha, but I guess I'll have to wait until he inevitably redeems himself, which brings me to...

5 - Inevitable redemption. We all know he's going to switch sides yet again. He's got guilt written all over his forehead.

And finally.

6 - F*cking. Senju DNA.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

he's been under madara's genjutsu from the start, madara set him up by killing rin also

That's has never been proven the case. We are still wondering what happen to Rin in that case but it will be explained. So we don't know.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Uchiha women must be good in bed I supposed all that pent of emotion can led to more...errr stuff.

But yeah genetic trait. While annoying I supposed. It can't be helped. Sadly Sasuke is now in a stage where he does not know what the hell he is doing. Obito is confused. Madara is all crazy about killing everything in a fancy fashion.

Itachi is the only one that's not emotional.

He lived by the rule of not showing any emotion. And for uchiha women PMS is not a sharingan level/variant! Haha
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Naruto,Sasuke and Nagato suffered much more deeply than Obito.And many other characters too.
Until a point they were right to do what they did.
I understand that ut was hard for Obito to see his teenage crush getting killed by his friend but that doesn't justify his reaction.
He passed almost 20 years,killing,manipulating and hurting others.
All this for a dream world that nobody has to suffer.That is a contraduction on its own.
Nagato believed in pain.He believed that was the way to achieve peace.Sasuke wanted revenge to easy his guilts and blame others for his suffer.
Obito claims that he wants a world that nobody has to suffer but he intentionally hurts others.
In this I dont find any logic
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

I wouldn't call this Obito's 'true nature', considering all he has gone through.

I get the need for villains, and Tobi being Obito was a brilliant move if you ask me - no one would have cared if it was Izuna or Kagami or whatever random individual you could think of. However, there are a few things that do bother me personally:

1 - The guy never shuts up. Seriously, it's like he's a broken CD or something. Maybe someone activated Izanami and he's just tossing around angrily in his little mind.

2 - Weak motivation. Now I know a lot of people will disagree with me: Madara did a fair bit of brainwashing, he saw his new best friend kill his crush and whatever. But remember he has been actively trying to escape into his own private Disneyworld for about what, half his life? And he suddenly stopped caring about EVERYTHING, including the guy who just murdered his crush which made him switch sides in the first place?

3 - He thinks he's justified. Now this is tricky, this can be done well, but I don't think it was in Obito's case. I had this same issue with Nagato and still have with Sasuke - they're not ENTITLED to anything. A tragic past doesn't mean they have the right to do as they damn please. He just comes across as a spoiled brat in need of spanking.

4 - I just wanted to keep one likeable Uchiha, but I guess I'll have to wait until he inevitably redeems himself, which brings me to...

5 - Inevitable redemption. We all know he's going to switch sides yet again. He's got guilt written all over his forehead.

And finally.

6 - F*cking. Senju DNA.

Laughing through that whole reply. And again I agree.

Obito is repeating the same stuff over and over. He's confused and lost his reason to keep going. Ya know the drive?

Obito is what many people consider a pathetic excuse for a villain and I must say I am sorry that they view such a way. It's all this unforeseen circumstances that led to Obito to be...Obito! His emotions are out of proportion. It's the mask I tell you. Once his face pop up he's scared of the world.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Naruto,Sasuke and Nagato suffered much more deeply than Obito.And many other characters too.
Until a point they were right to do what they did.
I understand that ut was hard for Obito to see his teenage crush getting killed by his friend but that doesn't justify his reaction.
He passed almost 20 years,killing,manipulating and hurting others.
All this for a dream world that nobody has to suffer.That is a contraduction on its own.
Nagato believed in pain.He believed that was the way to achieve peace.Sasuke wanted revenge to easy his guilts and blame others for his suffer.
Obito claims that he wants a world that nobody has to suffer but he intentionally hurts others.
In this I dont find any logic

True. Many feel Nagato is more appealing character than Obito. And wow that's a lot of minpulating.

Obito is a crazy character. And bipolar. :|

The logic in this is flawed but you can't achieve great things without obstacles.
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

hey RPGdude,the Do you think Obito is kinda like Tetsuo???
 

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Re: So the fact that we witness Obito's true nature it seems "unappealing" to you?

Laughing through that whole reply. And again I agree.

Obito is repeating the same stuff over and over. He's confused and lost his reason to keep going. Ya know the drive?

Obito is what many people consider a pathetic excuse for a villain and I must say I am sorry that they view such a way. It's all this unforeseen circumstances that led to Obito to be...Obito! His emotions are out of proportion. It's the mask I tell you. Once his face pop up he's scared of the world.

Yeah I'm sorry too. As I said, I was excited when it was revealed he was Tobi, because there were so many things Kishimoto could do with it. Instead we just get this...well, poor excuse for a villain, who I think just needs a slap across the face, a drink to the belly and a nice long therapy session.

I guess it doesn't help that I'm not a big fan of the whole 'creating a dreamworld' thing either. I like the fact that it's not the cliché 'destroy the world because shut up', but that's about the only real thing I like about their plan. It just seems like a pathetic excuse for people who can't handle reality.

And before you ask, no, I have not seen the love of my life been killed by my best friend right before my very eyes. That will almost certainly never happen. This is still a fictional story I used to be quite fond of, and I'd rather have villains I can relate to/like without having my loved ones killed, thankyouverymuch.
 
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