Show me a Manga page that says Susanoo requires Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi!

[FleeOnSight]

It's pointless to argue when we will find out really soon if he has it or not.

 

[Excālibur1]

And to know that i started the thread which made 2 or 3 more threads -_-.
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Itachi transferred his Susano and other things when he touched Sasuke's FOREHEAD.
He later transplanted Itachi eyes as his sight is getting blurred.

 

[shelke]

Here is another interesting manga page:

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Itachi clearly states that Sun = Amaterasu and Moon = Tsukuyomi will be amalgamated to create a third technique. Which is Susano'o as we saw later.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Does Madara have Amaterasu? we haven't seen him use it yet.

 

[Draphsin]

Not one person has shown proof of madara casting amaterasu, the databook proves nothing as its outdated and was created bearing only Itachi in mind, because the only known caster (according to the databook) is itachi

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

By that logic, every char with good chakra control can do rasengan

Again given the facts of how to achive susanoo and the fack madara knows susanoo. That should be the proof you need

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Not one person has shown proof of madara casting amaterasu, the databook proves nothing as its outdated and was created bearing only Itachi in mind, because the only known caster (according to the databook) is itachi

And you my friend We know data book is out dated but its not a leap of faith to assume that madara and sasuke achieved susanoo through the same means as itachi

 

[Draphsin]

And you my friend We know data book is out dated but its not a leap of faith to assume that madara and sasuke achieved susanoo through the same means as itachi

Its not a leap of faith but its speculation, and fact>speculation

And the fact is that madara, given multiple opportunities has yet to cast either amaterasu or tsukuyomi...This means that he doesnt have them because he even went as far as to show the kage his PS. He had nothing to hide and he even had multiple chances to cast ama during naruto's fight, but failed to even speak of it.

 

[TrollingSage]

Such nonsense. There's not manga page that says that. However there is a databook page. That means that explanation is coming straight from Kishi himself. It's not like other statements/hype you can refute by saying the character who said it didnt know any better.
So how about you show us a manga page that states you dont need ama and tsuki for susano.

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Its not a leap of faith but its speculation, and fact>speculation

And the fact is that madara, given multiple opportunities has yet to cast either amaterasu or tsukuyomi...This means that he doesnt have them because he even went as far as to show the kage his PS. He had nothing to hide and he even had multiple chances to cast ama during naruto's fight, but failed to even speak of it.

But there isnt any fact you speculate the conditions for susanoo are different no one else has said its conditions in the manga so therefor im runing on fact until its proven otherwise and you are speculating something thats never came up

 

[Draphsin]

But there isnt any fact you speculate the conditions for susanoo are different no one else has said its conditions in the manga so therefor im runing on fact until its proven otherwise and you are speculating something thats never came up

Nope, databook isnt fact because its outdated and doesnt apply to sasuke & madara. The fact that madara can use susanoo without showing any signs of having ama/tsukuyomi(which he was given plenty of times to demonstrate) is more than enough evidence to support this...

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Nope, databook isnt fact because its outdated and doesnt apply to sasuke & madara. The fact that madara can use susanoo without showing any signs of having ama/tsukuyomi(which he was given plenty of times to demonstrate) is more than enough evidence to support this...

There you are speculating again. find where it says manga that susanoos conditions are different and ill shut up. if you cant i stand my ground on this topic

 

[Rike Senju]

Such arrogance is sad :sy: saying what you think like its a fact and bashing others who don't agree with you :|

 

[yellowxflash]

Obito just has kamui, he's the man

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

Such arrogance is sad :sy: saying what you think like its a fact and bashing others who don't agree with you :|

im not trying to insult anyone. Im stating fact.... Because it has not been said anywhere else that susanoos conditions change.


@Draphsin Where does it say you have to use amaterasu and Tsukuyomi in succession before using susanoo. tsukuyomi would not be effective on kage rank in a group. that being said we dont know if amaterasu can be used with the rinnegan activated.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Nope, databook isnt fact because its outdated and doesnt apply to sasuke & madara. The fact that madara can use susanoo without showing any signs of having ama/tsukuyomi(which he was given plenty of times to demonstrate) is more than enough evidence to support this...

The databook is fact because Kishi wrote it himself. And do you really think he didn't know he was gonna give Sasuke and Madara Susano'o? Seriously now.

 

[Draphsin]

The databook is fact because Kishi wrote it himself. And do you really think he didn't know he was gonna give Sasuke and Madara Susano'o? Seriously now.

If that was the case then why weren't mentiones as known casters? Or better yet, why ist madara mentioned in either amaterasu or tsukuyomi's databook entries either?

 

[Orochimaruofthesound]

If that was the case then why weren't mentiones as known casters? Or better yet, why ist madara mentioned in either amaterasu or tsukuyomi's databook entries either?

Because the book is out of date iagree ther but until theres a new book The page of susanoo hits all susanoo

 

[Punk Hazard]

If that was the case then why weren't mentiones as known casters? Or better yet, why ist madara mentioned in either amaterasu or tsukuyomi's databook entries either?

Because at that time, Sasuke wasn't revealed to have had it and we were under the impression that Tobi is Madara and that his powers centered on Space-Time jutsu. There's a little thing called avoiding spoilers.

 

[iSpeak the Truth]

Because at that time, Sasuke wasn't revealed to have had it and we were under the impression that Tobi is Madara and that his powers centered on Space-Time jutsu. There's a little thing called avoiding spoilers.

And trying to hide the fact that Sasuke might have a jutsu other than Tsukuyomi was the same thing.

Bro, not acknowledging Kagutsuchi as Sasuke's second MS jutsu is nothing short of sheer stupidity. It's right there in the manga!
He uses his right Mangekyou eye to manipulate the flames, that's his second MS jutsu! Why are people too dumb to see that when it's practically hitting them in the face, and still they ignore it and follow an outdated databook. :sy: