Godaime Hokage versus Yondaime Raikage (read first)

[Tazzilla88]

Many people believe the Raikage is indeed stronger than Tsunade and would beat her in 1vs 1.
I am therefore, curious as to when people believe his strength surpasses hers.
Because we are aware that both A and Tsunade are willing to fight in base. The first scenario them going at each other with no access to Lightning Cloak for A and no Sozo Saise or Byakugou for Tsunade
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Scenario 1
Location: Sannin Showdown
Starting Distance: 50 Meters
Intel: Tsunade knows A is fast (and the hype that would go with Raikage title), A knows Tsunade is a the Medical Ninja and is Very Strong
Restrictions: Sozo Saise, Byakugou, Raiton Cloak V1 and V2. (Raikage has both hands)

The phase to see where people think Raikage overpowers Tsunade is by removing some restrictions.

Scenario 2
Location: Sannin Showdown
Starting Distance: 50 Meters
Intel: Same as above
Restrictions: Byakugou, Raiton Cloak V2



And
Scenario 3
Location: Sannin Showdown
Starting Distance: 50 Meters
Intel: Same as above
Restrictions: none


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Scenario 4
Location: Sannin Showdown
Starting Distance: 50 Meters
Intel: Both are aware of durability and huge chakra reserves, Ay is aware Tsunade is the Slug Princess, and Tsunade still knows about A's ration cloak. Ay knows Tsunade can self heal and thus both parties except the fight to drag on thus the restrictions.
Restrictions: First 10 minutes, both are in base, After 10 minutes, Raikage has access to V1 and Tsunade to Creation Rebirth, After 20 Minutes, No Restrictions.
Intent: to kill but not bloodlusted.

 

[Omnipotent]

I don't know how fast the Raikage is without Raiton cloak, so I'm giving Scenario 1 to Tsunade.

Scenario 2 goes to the Yondaime Raikage easily, as he still has access to V1...

Scenario 3 could go to either the Yondaime Raikage or Tsunade. Depends on whether or not the Yondaime Raikage blitzes before Tsunade activates byakugou (which he just may, as it took Tsunade extremely long to use byakugou even against Edo Madara). So, I'm choosing Yondaime Raikage 65/100 times.

Scenario 4 goes to Tsunade, she outlasts the Yondaime Raikage until he runs out of chakra.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I don't know how fast the Raikage is without Raiton cloak, so I'm giving Scenario 1 to Tsunade.

Scenario 2 goes to the Yondaime Raikage easily, as he still has access to V1...

Scenario 3 could go to either the Yondaime Raikage or Tsunade. Depends on whether or not the Yondaime Raikage blitzes before Tsunade activates byakugou (which he just may, as it took Tsunade extremely long to use byakugou even against Edo Madara). So, I'm choosing Yondaime Raikage 65/100 times.

Scenario 4 goes to Tsunade, she outlasts the Yondaime Raikage until he runs out of chakra.

While The Yondaime Raikage is faster in V2, his destructive power is still lower than that of Base Bee's. I don't see him dealing extensive damage in V1. At least not of the sort the Creation Rebirth can't handle

Also in scenario 3. That's different situation. Besides talking, she was also aware that Madara could not close the gap before she activated the jutsus. But as Raikages seem to be known by their speed and Tsunade seemingly knew about Raiakge's speed before Naruto vs A it would stay to reason she may take such risks against A. I don't see her winning everytime. But I don't see him winning the majority of the time, especially given her durability

 

[SasukeNamikaze]

Tsunade won't outlast A.

A has Biju level Stamina. Tsunade doesnt.

 

[Icelerate]

Tsunade won't outlast A.

A has Biju level Stamina. Tsunade doesnt.

Proof that A has bijuu level stamina and Tsunade doesn't?

OT: I think base Raikage is still much faster than Tsunade since he seems like the type of guy to extensively train his speed. It just seems like his style. Without any form of regeneration, Tsunade gets killed pretty easily.

Enlighten me on what the difference is between genesis rebirth and strength of a hundred before I make a final judgement. Raikage seems to have an advantage for me since in Super Smash Bros Brawl, both Captain Falcon and Ganondorf are similar when it comes to fighting style but Captain Falcon is faster and Ganondorf is stronger. Captain Falcon will always dominate Ganondorf.

 

[Penguin]

Proof that A has bijuu level stamina and Tsunade doesn't?

OT: I think base Raikage is still much faster than Tsunade since he seems like the type of guy to extensively train his speed. It just seems like his style. Without any form of regeneration, Tsunade gets killed pretty easily.

Enlighten me on what the difference is between genesis rebirth and strength of a hundred before I make a final judgement. Raikage seems to have an advantage for me since in Super Smash Bros Brawl, both Captain Falcon and Ganondorf are similar when it comes to fighting style but Captain Falcon is faster and Ganondorf is stronger. Captain Falcon will always dominate Ganondorf.

Lol at that comment. Love me some SSBB

 

[Tazzilla88]

Tsunade won't outlast A.

A has Biju level Stamina. Tsunade doesnt.

Hmm, I wonder, Tsunade had Katsuyu attending to nearly everyone in the village and she healed the people to whom Katsuyu was attending. Now if there are roughly 16,000 Shinobi there are many more citizens of konoha, it doesn't seem as though shinobi comprise the majority of the population in fact as all other jobs must be performed beyond fighting and espionage. And even if Shinobi's did comprise the majority of the Konoha that's still nearly 20,000 people Tsunade healed, and prevented from dying. Yes a lot of people died but compared to the village's total population she still managed to save many lives. And it's not like healing requires only a little bit of chakra.

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Kabuto who used a soldier pill which would increase his amount of available chakra wasn't able to heal himself from Naruto's Rasengan. However Tsunade not only healed herself from a 5 Katons each capable of destroying the stone ceiling of a building,

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, she also took the damage of Yasaka Magatama when the same Magatamas nearly made it through Gaara and Oonoki's two layer defense.

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, She also tanked three susanoo swords

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and healed three kage level shinobi whilst donating chakra to them

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. So she may very well have bijuu level reserves.

Proof that A has bijuu level stamina and Tsunade doesn't?

OT: I think base Raikage is still much faster than Tsunade since he seems like the type of guy to extensively train his speed. It just seems like his style. Without any form of regeneration, Tsunade gets killed pretty easily.

Enlighten me on what the difference is between genesis rebirth and strength of a hundred before I make a final judgement. Raikage seems to have an advantage for me since in Super Smash Bros Brawl, both Captain Falcon and Ganondorf are similar when it comes to fighting style but Captain Falcon is faster and Ganondorf is stronger. Captain Falcon will always dominate Ganondorf.

Well if you look at reactions between Tsunade and Raikage I don't think Raikage is much faster than her in base. Beyond that given the feat above doing something about Katsuyu when she's able to divide so much will be a major problem for the Raikage.

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There's a strong chance that had Tsunade not went for the Aerial Attack Kabuto and Oro would have been blitzed

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And you know Tsunade did keep up with Raikage even in his big rush to get there.

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Also the difference between Creation Rebirth and Byakugou.
Creation Rebirth requires a hand seal to heal

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Byakugou doesn't

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[Gingka Uzumaki]

A.

Speed blitz

 

[Tazzilla88]

A.

Speed blitz

Didn't read did we?

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Didn't read did we?

I read it.
The simple thing is her reactions are fast but it's not like Madara has A-Level speed.
Reacting to him isn't the same as reacting to some slightly slower than KM Naruto and Minato.
A can easily speed blitz and with both arms should be able to land a fatal blow.

 

[Tazzilla88]

I read it.
The simple thing is her reactions are fast but it's not like Madara has A-Level speed.
Reacting to him isn't the same as reacting to some slightly slower than KM Naruto and Minato.
A can easily speed blitz and with both arms should be able to land a fatal blow.

Well A certainly isn't that fast in base nor that powerful.
A is rather fast in V1 but not that powerful to strike a death blow.
Scenario 3 I think is the only place A stands a chance, but that would necessitate his destructive force is = or > Bee's V1 cloak and that Tsunade's durability is = or < Sasuke's durability

 

[TheEvilOne]

Scenario 1: Tsunade literally stomps. I doubt the base Raikage faster then her. Tsunade's stamina is great even without the regeneration. 1 punch and the Raikage is dead.
Scenario 2: The Hokage wins this too. Her Byakugou is restricted, but she can still regenerate herself with the Sozo Saizei. The Raikage can't outlast her.
Scenario 3: This is debatable, but I go with Tsunade extremely high difficulty. My reasons are as above.
Scenario 4: Same is scenario 1. 1O minutes is more then enough for Tsunade to defeat A.


So yea, Tsunade wins every scenario. She is slower then him, but the speed isn't everything. She is stronger, more intelligent and overall more versatile.

 

[Kages]

Tsunade wins all scenarios.

 

[Bogard]

A is one of the fastest even in base. White Zetsu who watched fast and powerful ninjas like Itachi and Sasuke fighting before said his speed was insane without even having reaction time

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So he is certainly faster than Tsunade even in base

 

[genii96]

Proof that A has bijuu level stamina and Tsunade doesn't?

OT: I think base Raikage is still much faster than Tsunade since he seems like the type of guy to extensively train his speed. It just seems like his style. Without any form of regeneration, Tsunade gets killed pretty easily.

Enlighten me on what the difference is between genesis rebirth and strength of a hundred before I make a final judgement. Raikage seems to have an advantage for me since in Super Smash Bros Brawl, both Captain Falcon and Ganondorf are similar when it comes to fighting style but Captain Falcon is faster and Ganondorf is stronger. Captain Falcon will always dominate Ganondorf.

heh i'll use ike and kill anyone in SSB.xd

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Raikage only wins 3.

His speed is the deciding factor and only Scenario 3 allows him to truly use it.

However, once he has access to his Raiton Cloak, he destroys Tsunade.

Sasuke was barely able to react to him, and he had Susanoo and the Mangekyou. Tsunade won't even know what hit her.

 

[Chatte]

So he is certainly faster than Tsunade even in base

Dunno about base, to be honest.
Presumably, I'll give you that, she was able to keep up with A, and we know he is a ninja of purportedly great speed even without his Raiton shroud. Both Tsunade and A were able to to surprise two highly reflexive ninja in doing so.

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[Slug Princess Tsunade]

She wins all, except the third.

 

[Tazzilla88]

A is one of the fastest even in base. White Zetsu who watched fast and powerful ninjas like Itachi and Sasuke fighting before said his speed was insane without even having reaction time

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So he is certainly faster than Tsunade even in base

To be fair White Zetsu had to keep his eye on 15 people. With two eyes. And white Zetsu doesn't particularly have great reactionary feats. I mean for godsake he was the fodder army of the war.

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[Icelerate]

heh i'll use ike and kill anyone in SSB.xd

Lol Ike sucks because of his slowness. He is a good character in team battles or free for all but sucks in 1 on 1.

Dunno about base, to be honest.
Presumably, I'll give you that, she was able to keep up with A, and we know he is a ninja of purportedly great speed even without his Raiton shroud. Both Tsunade and A were able to to surprise two highly reflexive ninja in doing so.

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The image you uploaded mentions A's power yet Kishi didn't bother hyping up Tsunade. It tells us that A is superior to her. Also Kishi kept Tsunade from intervening in the fight between the jins and A which tells us that Kishi thinks Tsunade would be a non factor in a fight of that scale.

To be fair White Zetsu had to keep his eye on 15 people. With two eyes. And white Zetsu doesn't particularly have great reactionary feats. I mean for godsake he was the fodder army of the war.

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Read what Zetsu has to say of A's speed. That hype is very valid and tells us that even in base, Raikage has top tier speed. The final Zetsu that was taken out was by a low kage level ninja (Kitsuchi).

Well if you look at reactions between Tsunade and Raikage I don't think Raikage is much faster than her in base. Beyond that given the feat above doing something about Katsuyu when she's able to divide so much will be a major problem for the Raikage.

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The first scan Tsunade only travelled 10 meters tops and she saw Madara preparing a katon so it isn't that fast. Raikage could have done the same except blitzed Madara in the time it took him to form the katon. As for the 2nd scan, you do realize it was Dan that saved Tsunade, not Tsunade's own speed?

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There's a strong chance that had Tsunade not went for the Aerial Attack Kabuto and Oro would have been blitzed

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In the third scan, Tsunade's stern look must have paralysed Shizune hindering her ability to react. Orochimaru did the same with Team 7 and Kakashi. Also the range between Shizune and Tsunade wasn't that great. Also note that Shizune is a fodder jounin for the most part. I reckon part 1 Temari and part 1 Neji could beat her. In A's scan, his speed was clearly hyped while no one has hyped Tsunade's speed. Kabuto managed to dodge most of Tsunade's attacks and he had problems dealing with Dosu and other genins during the chunin exams.

And you know Tsunade did keep up with Raikage even in his big rush to get there.

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Also the difference between Creation Rebirth and Byakugou.
Creation Rebirth requires a hand seal to heal

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Byakugou doesn't

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Thanks for letting me know the difference between the two. I guess Tsunade could win the first scenario if she can manage to summon Katsuyu off the bat. I don't see how the Raikage can handle the summon. The other scenarios I think the Raikage would win.