[Theory] Kurama's Host and the Connection between KinGins bro and Rikoudu

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[new sage of 6 paths]

Then who is the host before naruto? Kushina? Mito? From rikudo until mito is way long time..................

1)Sakura got hit by kuubi cloak intentionally.Kurama wanted to hurt her.When Naruto use kuubi cloak to catch Kakashi and Guy didn't harm them at all.It's not that the chakra is poisonous,is the intention of the chakra that makes it harmful.
2)Madara was young when he used Kurama.Maybe he didn't know any techniques to seal him,plus it would take him much time to tame Kurama and obtain KM,if he ever could.Madara thought of the eye moon project later.The reason he wants to seal juubi inside him is to make his plan work.Back the he just needed Kurama as a weapon.Sealing him would be just a waste of time since he could fully manipulate him.
3)The reason Uzumaki's are becoming hots are due to their power force and strong chakra.They are able to restrain and hold the seal better.Plus they were masters in sealing techniques.They are distant relatives of the senju,so they are related to the sage in a way.
4)Kurama handled out chakra to Kakashi without Naruto manipulating it.It didn't harm Kakashi,in contrast, it was very useful.Again,it's about intent.
5)Rinnegan is a KKG,it's an upgrade of sharingan and Madara awakened it not only Rikudo had it.
6)There were other people non Uzumaki's that were hosts to biju's.Try proving first that Kurama is different from the other biju's and special.Because if he ain't this theory goes down the drain.

Thank God I came prepared,I'd prove kurama is different,
He's the strongest and the closest to juubi
Listen to what minato said

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See what minato said?
While other bijuu's are sealed whole in their host,kurama can't be sealed like that!
And before you start the "naruto isn't a complete uzumaki"talk,remember minato never specified!
1.There isn't any intentions when dealing with a bijuus chakra,because yamato clearly said he's surprised how Naruto can handle the chakra,since he has the real thing!
If it was intentions,kurama would have poisoned naruto with his chakra! Btw tell that to the guy who ate a bijuu's spare part,and died instantly
2.Madara only had kurama when he fought with hashi,and then,he had EMS,and was in his late twenties.Uzushiogakure was an ally then,I don't see how he wouldn't know sealing jutsu
3.Infact uchiha's suppose to make the best jinchuriki's because of their fancy eyes!
4.Kurama also said he could handle out chakra while using naruto as a medium!

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

QUOTE=KonohanoAkuma
Sakura got hit by kuubi cloak intentionally.Kurama wanted to hurt her.When Naruto use kuubi cloak to catch Kakashi and Guy didn't harm them at all.It's not that the chakra is poisonous,is the intention of the chakra that makes it harmful.

There is a difference between the chakra from then and now. The chakra Naruto uses now has incredible life force, which means it doesn't hurt people anymore. Kinkaku and Ginkaku ate that chakra and took on the form of 4 tails Naruto, which is harmful to others.

2)Madara was young when he used Kurama.Maybe he didn't know any techniques to seal him,plus it would take him much time to tame Kurama and obtain KM,if he ever could.Madara thought of the eye moon project later.The reason he wants to seal juubi inside him is to make his plan work.Back the he just needed Kurama as a weapon.Sealing him would be just a waste of time since he could fully manipulate him.

Not everyone is capable of becoming a jinchuuriki. You need to have a compatible body and Uchiha's weren't known for their strong bodies. He only wanted to become the Juubi's host after he gained Hashirama's cells

3)The reason Uzumaki's are becoming hots are due to their power force and strong chakra.They are able to restrain and hold the seal better.Plus they were masters in sealing techniques.They are distant relatives of the senju,so they are related to the sage in a way.

you can't ignore the fact that Kurama said Naruto is the only one that could make a link to his chakra because he had Kushina's blood (Uzumaki).

4)Kurama handled out chakra to Kakashi without Naruto manipulating it.It didn't harm Kakashi,in contrast, it was very useful.Again,it's about intent.

That was in BM when they gained the golden chakra, not the harmful chakra

5)Rinnegan is a KKG,it's an upgrade of sharingan and Madara awakened it not only Rikudo had it.

Madara gained it by combining rikudo's powers which was divided into the Senju and Uchiha. We can't be sure how Rikudo awakened his. Check the link in my sig for a possible answer on how he awakened it

6)There were other people non Uzumaki's that were hosts to biju's.Try proving first that Kurama is different from the other biju's and special.Because if he ain't this theory goes down the drain.

They were compatible. Kurama is the strongest. Even the 8 tails said he was "hella strong".

 

[9tailsJinchuuriki]

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Then you have a boring sense of interest..

It gives a plausible answer to how the sage awakened the rinnegan.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Yep, I agree...

Also, they had the sage's tools. Where did they get those tools from in the first place?
They had those tools even before Kurama ate them and you need a lot of chakra (Which the Uzumaki has) to use those weapons.

Not to mention that the treasured tools are used for (drum roll) sealing

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Then who is the host before naruto? Kushina? Mito? From rikudo until mito is way long time..................

Then you have a boring sense of interest..

It gives a plausible answer to how the sage awakened the rinnegan.

I enjoyed your theory,but I know Rikoudu inherited Rinnegan from Juubi,but couldn't pass it on...
You'd have to combine an uchiha and a senju to get that doujutsu,and its not any run of the mill uchiha or senju!
The special one;Hashi an madara!

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Also, why are the Uzumakis the only ones capable of becoming Kurama's host, why not Senjus? why import Uzumakis?

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Also, why are the Uzumakis the only ones capable of becoming Kurama's host, why not Senjus? why import Uzumakis?

Yes,lol I think import people is illegal!
OT:there where many senju's at that time,today's manga just proved that!
Why weren't they used?

 

[Almighty Ra]

Yes,lol I think import people is illegal!
OT:there where many senju's at that time,today's manga just proved that!
Why weren't they used?

why cuz they lacked the sealing ability the Uzumaki clan was renowned for...jus because they had strong life force and the body to with stand it didn't mean they could hold the seal within themselves...does that sound about right bro? great read man thanks

 

[beast7960]

Pretty sure any senju/uzumaki can become Kurama's host. As far as Kurama knows, Naruto is the only uzumaki Kurama is aware of which could be why he stated only naruto could become his host.
The sage wasn't in a clan or from a clan, he was not an uzumaki. He was a class of his own, his powers divided into two beings, the senju and the uchiha.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Pretty sure any senju/uzumaki can become Kurama's host. As far as Kurama knows, Naruto is the only uzumaki Kurama is aware of which could be why he stated only naruto could become his host.
The sage wasn't in a clan or from a clan, he was not an uzumaki. He was a class of his own, his powers divided into two beings, the senju and the uchiha.

Again,tobi stated he was a mere mortal,until he became juub's host,after that he attained the status of a God!
And your wrong!
Naruto aint the only one kurama is aware of...remember,he once once sealed in mito and kushina?
Your wrong again!
Minato sealed kurama into naruto,and he was no Uzumaki!
Am pretty sure there where senju's around,but they had to import kushina,to become a host!

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

im not even gonna bother well i will, lmao i like the theory i really do but the counter arguments are pretty weak. for example the counter argument about why the 9 tails is special....that page you put up doesn't prove a thing....we all know that the 1-9 tails each one is stronger so kurama would be the strongest and have the most amount of chakra minato could not seal all of it into naruto because he was a baby .....did mito or kushina become jinchurriki as new born babies ...no they did not they were already adolescents.

i did agree with the jin-kin brothers being uzumaki or at least half uzumaki but then again all uzumaki have red hair(naruto blonde because he is half uzumaki).....im not sure if they had red hair

also oro did not get messed up by 4 tails naruto if not mistaken oro pulled out a mile long sword and just impaled the crap out of him.

also make sure to take anything (tobi) said with a grain of salt.....he has lied about many things already.

 

[beast7960]

Again,tobi stated he was a mere mortal,until he became juub's host,after that he attained the status of a God!
And your wrong!
Naruto aint the only one kurama is aware of...remember,he once once sealed in mito and kushina?
Your wrong again!
Minato sealed kurama into naruto,and he was no Uzumaki!
Am pretty sure there where senju's around,but they had to import kushina,to become a host!

Flew way of your head, Naruto is the only uzumaki kurama is aware of in that POINT IN TIME.
btw, the sage attained the status of a god because he defeated the juubi, same thing you said but mine sounds way better.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

im not even gonna bother well i will, lmao i like the theory i really do but the counter arguments are pretty weak. for example the counter argument about why the 9 tails is special....that page you put up doesn't prove a thing....we all know that the 1-9 tails each one is stronger so kurama would be the strongest and have the most amount of chakra minato could not seal all of it into naruto because he was a baby .....did mito or kushina become jinchurriki as new born babies ...no they did not they were already adolescents.

i did agree with the jin-kin brothers being uzumaki or at least half uzumaki but then again all uzumaki have red hair(naruto blonde because he is half uzumaki).....im not sure if they had red hair

also oro did not get messed up by 4 tails naruto if not mistaken oro pulled out a mile long sword and just impaled the crap out of him.

also make sure to take anything (tobi) said with a grain of salt.....he has lied about many things already.

Oro got messed up,after 4tails hit,his body was weakening!
Might I add that 4(ails was still ok!
If you'd read the manga further,you'd have seen where kabuto said if oro had stayed longer,he would have died!
2.All those Uzumaki's that where used had special abilities that the could hold kurama down with!
Kushina had chakra chains!
Even with the protection of the seal holding kurama,she had chakra chains
Naruto has no special abilities!
Kushina was chosen because of her special chakra!
Weak points uh?
And your wrong,tobi has hasn't even told a lie,apart from impersonating madara...
Any story or secret he tells,is basically the truth,stating otherwise is mere speculation!

 

[Aertes]

Thank God I came prepared,I'd prove kurama is different,
He's the strongest and the closest to juubi
Listen to what minato said

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See what minato said?
While other bijuu's are sealed whole in their host,kurama can't be sealed like that!
And before you start the "naruto isn't a complete uzumaki"talk,remember minato never specified!
1.There isn't any intentions when dealing with a bijuus chakra,because yamato clearly said he's surprised how Naruto can handle the chakra,since he has the real thing!
If it was intentions,kurama would have poisoned naruto with his chakra! Btw tell that to the guy who ate a bijuu's spare part,and died instantly
2.Madara only had kurama when he fought with hashi,and then,he had EMS,and was in his late twenties.Uzushiogakure was an ally then,I don't see how he wouldn't know sealing jutsu
3.Infact uchiha's suppose to make the best jinchuriki's because of their fancy eyes!
4.Kurama also said he could handle out chakra while using naruto as a medium!

So Kurama can't be sealed whole???Hmmm interesting!!!Say that to Kushina,he was sealed whole in her.Minato couldn't seal whole Kurama on Naruto cause he was just a baby and his body couldn't take it.That doesn't prove that Kurama is special.He is the strongest of the bijus,but I don't see why this is a reason he can't be sealed in others than Uzumaki's.
Anyway,if Uzumakis are the only capables of having Kurama as a host why would Madara want to seal the juubi in him???
Kurama is part of the juubi,if his body can't take Kurama how will it be able to take the whole juubi??Don't you think that Madara in the endless time he spent on that cave thought of that??Would he made a whole plan that depends on sealing the juubi inside him if he wasn't sure he can take it??
You also say that Uchiha's make the best jinjurikis cause of their eyes.Doesn't that contradict your theory???
And Madara on his fight with Hashi had EMS.But I don't know what that has to do with your theory anyway.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Flew way of your head, Naruto is the only uzumaki kurama is aware of in that POINT IN TIME.
btw, the sage attained the status of a god because he defeated the juubi, same thing you said but mine sounds way better.

No your wrong again!
Then why did he compare naruto to kushina?
And it aint about your word sounding better,its about the manga saying it!

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Darui asked if it was possible for a mere human to accomplish all this,tobi stated that,the sage stopped being a mere human when he became juubi's host!

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

So Kurama can't be sealed whole???Hmmm interesting!!!Say that to Kushina,he was sealed whole in her.Minato couldn't seal whole Kurama on Naruto cause he was just a baby and his body couldn't take it.That doesn't prove that Kurama is special.He is the strongest of the bijus,but I don't see why this is a reason he can't be sealed in others than Uzumaki's.
Anyway,if Uzumakis are the only capables of having Kurama as a host why would Madara want to seal the juubi in him???
Kurama is part of the juubi,if his body can't take Kurama how will it be able to take the whole juubi??Don't you think that Madara in the endless time he spent on that cave thought of that??Would he made a whole plan that depends on sealing the juubi inside him if he wasn't sure he can take it??
You also say that Uchiha's make the best jinjurikis cause of their eyes.Doesn't that contradict your theory???
And Madara on his fight with Hashi had EMS.But I don't know what that has to do with your theory anyway.

See,kurama is the strongest bijuu,minato aknowledged that!
Am going by what he said!not by a speculation!
Kushina and mito housed the juubi's in their teens,how? E don't know
What I know is Minato needed a baby that his chakra coil hasn't formed yet,and still he couldn't seal the whole thing!
And your wrong again about madara...
I stated that if the Uchiha's truely could house kurama,he should have,because basically his fancy eyes can tame kurama...
And its pretty obvious he started pursuing the Notion of housing the juubi when he possesed hashi's cells(perfect body?)
And uchiha+senju is the closest to Rikoudu,do the math!

 

[Aertes]

See,kurama is the strongest bijuu,minato aknowledged that!
Am going by what he said!not by a speculation!
Kushina and mito housed the juubi's in their teens,how? E don't know
What I know is Minato needed a baby that his chakra coil hasn't formed yet,and still he couldn't seal the whole thing!
And your wrong again about madara...
I stated that if the Uchiha's truely could house kurama,he should have,because basically his fancy eyes can tame kurama...
And its pretty obvious he started pursuing the Notion of housing the juubi when he possesed hashi's cells(perfect body?)
And uchiha+senju is the closest to Rikoudu,do the math!

Ok I get the feeling that you are not getting what I am saying.here we go again.
You said that Kurama is special because not even Minato couldn't seal him whole.And my answer to you is that he can be sealed whole,the problem was that Naruto was just a baby.But that again doesn't prove that Kurama has some kind of special chakra that is only compatible to Uzumaki's.It only proves that his chakra was huge and couldn't be sealed whole to an infant.Have you any other kind of proof that Kurama is special indeed??And I don't mean stronger,we know why he is stronger.
About Madara again.Why would he want to host Kurama??As you said to make a good connection the sealing must be done in a young age when the chakra coils aren't completely formed.Madara could use Kurama perfectly,why seal him in his body???Don't you get it that you need training and time to obtain KM as Naruto did??Sealing Kurama inside him would be a disadvantage for Madara not an advantage, that's why he didn't do it.
Again you are contradicting your self.If Uchiha+Senju=perfect body why can't a senju, who is part of the perfect body, host Kurama,who is part of the of the juubi??
If only a perfect body can host juubi, it only makes sense that either a senju or an Uchiha can too host Kurama.As you say,do the maths.

 

[boshans]

QUOTE=KonohanoAkuma
Sakura got hit by kuubi cloak intentionally.Kurama wanted to hurt her.When Naruto use kuubi cloak to catch Kakashi and Guy didn't harm them at all.It's not that the chakra is poisonous,is the intention of the chakra that makes it harmful.

There is a difference between the chakra from then and now. The chakra Naruto uses now has incredible life force, which means it doesn't hurt people anymore. Kinkaku and Ginkaku ate that chakra and took on the form of 4 tails Naruto, which is harmful to others.

2)Madara was young when he used Kurama.Maybe he didn't know any techniques to seal him,plus it would take him much time to tame Kurama and obtain KM,if he ever could.Madara thought of the eye moon project later.The reason he wants to seal juubi inside him is to make his plan work.Back the he just needed Kurama as a weapon.Sealing him would be just a waste of time since he could fully manipulate him.

Not everyone is capable of becoming a jinchuuriki. You need to have a compatible body and Uchiha's weren't known for their strong bodies. He only wanted to become the Juubi's host after he gained Hashirama's cells

3)The reason Uzumaki's are becoming hots are due to their power force and strong chakra.They are able to restrain and hold the seal better.Plus they were masters in sealing techniques.They are distant relatives of the senju,so they are related to the sage in a way.

you can't ignore the fact that Kurama said Naruto is the only one that could make a link to his chakra because he had Kushina's blood (Uzumaki).

4)Kurama handled out chakra to Kakashi without Naruto manipulating it.It didn't harm Kakashi,in contrast, it was very useful.Again,it's about intent.

That was in BM when they gained the golden chakra, not the harmful chakra

5)Rinnegan is a KKG,it's an upgrade of sharingan and Madara awakened it not only Rikudo had it.

Madara gained it by combining rikudo's powers which was divided into the Senju and Uchiha. We can't be sure how Rikudo awakened his. Check the link in my sig for a possible answer on how he awakened it

6)There were other people non Uzumaki's that were hosts to biju's.Try proving first that Kurama is different from the other biju's and special.Because if he ain't this theory goes down the drain.

They were compatible. Kurama is the strongest. Even the 8 tails said he was "hella strong".

When Kurama handed out his chakra to Kakashi, it didn't harm him because Kurama himself manipulated it just like Naruto would. If Kurama didn't manipulate it Kakashi definitely would not have been able to use it, or it might have done harm to him.

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See Kurama says he can pass chakra to anyone through Naruto. Meaning he also manipulates the chakra the same way. Otherwise the person wouldn't be able to take it.

 

[new sage of 6 paths]

Ok I get the feeling that you are not getting what I am saying.here we go again.
You said that Kurama is special because not even Minato couldn't seal him whole.And my answer to you is that he can be sealed whole,the problem was that Naruto was just a baby.But that again doesn't prove that Kurama has some kind of special chakra that is only compatible to Uzumaki's.It only proves that his chakra was huge and couldn't be sealed whole to an infant.Have you any other kind of proof that Kurama is special indeed??And I don't mean stronger,we know why he is stronger.
About Madara again.Why would he want to host Kurama??As you said to make a good connection the sealing must be done in a young age when the chakra coils aren't completely formed.Madara could use Kurama perfectly,why seal him in his body???Don't you get it that you need training and time to obtain KM as Naruto did??Sealing Kurama inside him would be a disadvantage for Madara not an advantage, that's why he didn't do it.
Again you are contradicting your self.If Uchiha+Senju=perfect body why can't a senju, who is part of the perfect body, host Kurama,who is part of the of the juubi??
If only a perfect body can host juubi, it only makes sense that either a senju or an Uchiha can too host Kurama.As you say,do the maths.

1.You don't need time to acquire km....if it where so,naruto would still be in the Island!
Again kushina and Mito where teenagers when they became host!
Apart from the seal used to imprison kurama in them,kushina had a special ability,same with Mito(special chakra)
So Naruto was half an uzumaki,If naruto was left till his teen,he might acquire the special chakra,but a jinch was needed at that moment.....
So the concept of sealing the whole Ninetails In infant Naruto,is what Minato stated to be............
And kurama was in madara's possesion for a long time till he fought hashi,why did you think he used it as a summone and had to control it?becuase he can't contain it!
I don't even have to go to a long length because kurama was said to have almost unlimited chakra!
Has that hype ever been given to anyother Tailed Beast? No!
Why wherent the senju's used?why'd import Uzumaki's?
Ok the mito part could be called coincidence! But kushina? No!
Madara possesing hashi's cell could house a bijuu,technically,the sage is a combination of uchiha and senju Dna,so in one body its a go!
Why did kurama even say naruto is the only one who can handle his chakra,he even gave an answer;which is becuase of kushina's chakra!