[Suggestion] Suggestions Regarding RP

[DeadManWonderLand]

Since some techniques and summonings are exclusive to certain cannon characters why would the person have to train under a sensei to learn these particular justu and summonings ?

Does that mean the sensei knows these techniques too ?

Its a bit odd and unnecessary.If your going to be someone with an already established set of justu they should all be available to that person from the get go.I can understand that justu and elemental training is needed for custom characters since they do not inherently have justu from the start and it would reduce the amount of people who try to have over the top OP justu when they rp.

Secondly,i have seen many bios (Especially when it comes to cannon characters)when it comes to nature affinities have all of them in the progress of being trained on or have them mastered already.No one ninja can learn all five elements unless they have the rinengan or some abstract and powerful kinjustu like Kakuzu.

Jonin which are the elite shinobi of any villages fighting force have 2 - 3 elements.The reason being is your born with one naturally.It doesn't mean your training is a breeze it just means learning that particular element will less strenuous since your already predisposed to thus said element.

This element is usually (Majority of nin anyway) learned when they reach chuunin levels.By the time they reach jonin status they will have trained and pushed themselves to learn a new element.And the most skilled have mastered them and or have trained themselves in a third element.

Anyway getting to my suggestions.

People role playing as cannon characters s should readily have access to all the techniques the character has been shown to use in the manga and not have to train with senseis to learn them.
The characters already know them so its a waste of time and the sensei's should not automatically know techniques that they do not have any business pretending to know.

Also cannon characters should not be able to learn any elements or justu outside of that persons skill and affinity range.Its just (for lack of a better word) completely ridiculous and contradicts the meaning of playing a cannon character.

This would save time and energy and better serve for a more faithful representation of the charters were trying to portray.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I disagree with both suggestions. IMO, some bios, like Pein, could already be haxxed. It wouldn't be fair if it was made so that only him can have all five when Rinnegan in itself gives him so many exclusive techniques.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I disagree with both suggestions. IMO, some bios, like Pein, could already be haxxed. It wouldn't be fair if it was made so that only him can have all five when Rinnegan in itself gives him so many exclusive techniques.

So the only reason your against it is ,because someone playing a faith representation of nagato would be powerful ?He is suppose to powerful how should that translate to everyone having more elements then they possibly should have.

Sounds extremely childish,immature and really lame excuse.They were exclusive for a reason.
If the RP rules stay as they are they make the rinnegan and its unique powers not so unique or exclusive.And thus the whole RP experience is compromised,because we have cannon character doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.


There are ways to combat against his powers.Every technique has a weakness.

 

[Nathan]

Wouldn't that give the people who use custom characters too much of an advantage?

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Wouldn't that give the people who use custom characters too much of an advantage?

How so ?

They would still be regulated to sensei's and go under training to learn elements.They like cannon characters should have to follow the rules of the narutoverse and have 3 elements (max)By the time there jonin unless they have a kinjustu or kekegenkai/tottai that allows them to have use more elements then usual.

(Of course the standard rules where the admins weigh in and decide if the person posing such a justu is considered reasonable and wouldn't cause trouble when battling others would apply)

 

[Scorps]

You need to learn the techniques in our RP regardless of whatever their origin. Why? Common sense: you can't use something correctly that you never learned to use before. The RP has countless rules and conducts and guidelines in which you need to be instructed to be able to RP correctly. If what you propose was done we'd see more cases of Swift Techniques being used to speed up handseals or using Chakra Sensing technique to know your opponents emotions, etc etc. This system is in place because people abuse the techniques and tend to misuse them, sometimes innocently, sometimes not so much. So no. No one in the RP gets anything without training unless a mod has given you a test/quiz and you pass. And never will this be done to stuff like the basic 5 elements or ninjutus, genjutsu or taijutsu, etc.

As for the cannon VS custom bio thing, this is how the RP was established and it won't be changed. If you have a canno bio that wields only one element in the manga, nothing stops you from fighting and rping with it using only that element. This restriction won't however be enforced on all of the members. Its your choice.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I mean no disrespect towards senseis.Traning people can be a good way to judge ones RP skills anf get people involved (Not saying that people should be banned from rping for sub par rp skills either lol)

However i always find myself sighing when i see a tsunade,tobirama,and juugo bio with all elements in training or mastered
along with a long ass specialty traits such as; Suiton, Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, Kinjutsu, Sensor

Like really those are you specialties ? lol They basically mastered or specialize in everything.
Where is the competition ?
Where is the skill ?

How can we have truly entertaining shinobi battles when everyone is a master in everything ?

It just seems so idk i can't even find the words to describe that

You need to learn the techniques in our RP regardless of whatever their origin. Why? Common sense: you can't use something correctly that you never learned to use before. The RP has countless rules and conducts and guidelines in which you need to be instructed to be able to RP correctly. If what you propose was done we'd see more cases of Swift Techniques being used to speed up handseals or using Chakra Sensing technique to know your opponents emotions, etc etc. This system is in place because people abuse the techniques and tend to misuse them, sometimes innocently, sometimes not so much. So no. No one in the RP gets anything without training unless a mod has given you a test/quiz and you pass. And never will this be done to stuff like the basic 5 elements or ninjutus, genjutsu or taijutsu, etc.

As for the cannon VS custom bio thing, this is how the RP was established and it won't be changed. If you have a canno bio that wields only one element in the manga, nothing stops you from fighting and rping with it using only that element. This restriction won't however be enforced on all of the members. Its your choice.

In regards to people using "swift Techniques being used to speed up handseals or using Chakra Sensing technique to know your opponents emotions, etc etc." That is where the people overseeing the bios come into play and regulate which bios are trying to be too op and try and persuade them into more reasonable powers to balance things out.(Its not like the people who over see the bios are being told to do extra work,because that is already apart of their job)

Like why would someone be able to sense emotions when that was something noted that only Mito uzumaki and naruto can do ? Unless that person was specifically aiming to be a sensor nin and gave a reasonable explanation for having those abilities.

I never said people should not have to train at all.But if they are requesting to be a canon character and those characters have certain justu then those justu should be readily available since those justu are something that,that cannon does in fact know.
Why would hiruzen train under a sensei to learn fire dragon bullet when he knows the dragon fire bullet ? That is just common sense.

I know nothing is going to be changed,but it something worth considering if you really want things to be balanced and faithful to the narutoverse.

 

[Nathan]

Why would hiruzen train under a sensei to learn fire dragon bullet when he knows the dragon fire bullet ? That is just common sense.

Just going to pick on this point; Because the person wishing to role-play as Hiruzen. Have to learn how to use that said jutsu correctly. Getting things auto only applies for things no one teaches i.e Steel release, just like Scorps said.

 

[Scorps]

I mean no disrespect towards senseis.Traning people can be a good way to judge ones RP skills anf get people involved (Not saying that people should be banned from rping for sub par rp skills either lol)

However i always find myself sighing when i see a tsunade,tobirama,and juugo bio with all elements in training or mastered
along with a long ass specialty traits such as; Suiton, Taijutsu, Kenjutsu, Kinjutsu, Sensor

Like really those are you specialties ? lol They basically mastered or specialize in everything.
Where is the competition ?
Where is the skill ?

How can we have truly entertaining shinobi battles when everyone is a master in everything ?

It just seems so idk i can't even find the words to describe that

In regards to people using "swift Techniques being used to speed up handseals or using Chakra Sensing technique to know your opponents emotions, etc etc." That is where the people overseeing the bios come into play and regulate which bios are trying to be too op and try and persuade them into more reasonable powers to balance things out.(Its not like the people who over see the bios are being told to do extra work,because that is already apart of their job)

Like why would someone be able to sense emotions when that was something noted that only Mito uzumaki and naruto can do ? Unless that person was specifically aiming to be a sensor nin and gave a reasonable explanation for having those abilities.

I never said people should not have to train at all.But if they are requesting to be a canon character and those characters have certain justu then those justu should be readily available since those justu are something that,that cannon does in fact know.
Why would hiruzen train under a sensei to learn fire dragon bullet when he knows the dragon fire bullet ? That is just common sense.

Don't multipost.

You seem to not understand much about the RP...

Bio mods have nothing to do with how the abilities are used. In the past, when some tolerance was given in those regards we face problemes of people who got a certain ability auto with the bio and misused it. 90% of the time that was the result. Why? because people weren't thaught how to use it and what the limits were. Teaching is necessary, period. Thus the examples I listed which were bound to abuse/misuse of abilities gained without training. The swift release thing was one of them. People who made a swift bio and gained swift release technique seemed to believe that for some reason it could boost their handseal speed and many other things that weren't true. It had nothing to do with their bios having that ability but rather with the fact that they didn't understand its limits and its uses.

As for the cannon with more elements than seen in the manga, like i said, thats how the rp was made and it won't change now. You can, like i said, rp as you wish to rp. If you want to use only what you character knows in the manga, be our guest. No one will stop you. But no one will force a change like that in the RP when for the last 4 years it has never been done. And for each person wishiing that change there will be 2 or 3 people opposing it.

I'm closing this because, don't take me the wrong way though, you know not what you speak off and it was clear in those reasonings. This discussion will bare no fruit and as such doesn't need to be developed further.