Madara versus Hashirama WHY!?

[foxyladyland]

what do you think is the reason for Madara & Hashirama fighting?
vote and give your own reasons.......enjoy

• Izuna was killed by Hashirama or Tobirama and Madara found out about it(saw it happen or heard about it)
• Izuna was killed by an Uchiha who wanted the MS(thinking he'd evolve if killed an Uchiha)
• Madara vowed to protect Izuna(late) feels like a failure living under Senju Leadership
• Doesnt feel true peace w/Senju could be possible.(Hashi has Tobi/Mada lost Izuna
• Hates Hashirama's Ideals about the Will of Fire
• The Same Old Story Between Senju and Uchiha
• Like Majin Vegeta(wants to be a warrior the way he was before)
• Influenced Tobirama(using Sharingan)to create Edo Tensei(to bring back fellow Uchiha)
• Warrior took Hashirama's weapon and killed Izuna with it...(Mada might have blamed Hashi

WHat IF HE WAnts TO UNite Uchiha & Senju with Uchiha as Leader?

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[Baka Sennin]

imo once madara lost izuna he got the curse of hatred. itachi was saved from it because he still had sasuke and the village to love, sasuke fell to the curse because itachi took everything from him. from that standpoint you see everything as somethign to amplify your hatred, like sasuke envisioning his friends from konoha laughing at the expense of the clan. madara took the uchiha wasting izuna's sacrifice and him being spurned in becoming hokage as offences due to that curse, so he came to hate hashirama.

 

[foxyladyland]

i see what u mean baka sennin do you say madara feels that the uchiha's peace with senju
is demeaning to izuna's life

 

[shadedcrow]

Out of all those reasons the last seems the most likely.

 

[foxyladyland]

Out of all those reasons the last seems the most likely.

which one?
in the polls
or the original post

 

[veggetta13]

Out of all those reasons the last seems the most likely.

Warrior took Hashirama's weapon and killed Izuna with it...(Mada might have blamed Hashi


all of you guys are really heading a bit too straight forward, though quite wisely. I agree with your opinion, there seems to be a scheme to be

 

[foxyladyland]

all of you guys are really heading a bit too straight forward, though quite wisely. I agree with your opinion, there seems to be a scheme to be

do u think it was kinda a plot to kill izuna

 

[sacmador]

just hopelessness drove Madara to devil.

 

[foxyladyland]

just hopelessness drove Madara to devil.

hopelessness of what?
the fact that all his brothers were killed or he wanted to be stronger

 

[sacmador]

Madara hopes for nothing nice

 

[foxyladyland]

Madara hopes for nothing nice

think he just wanted revenge or he hates peace

 

[veggetta13]

do u think it was kinda a plot to kill izuna

yeah, a plot made by any of the other gonzos. Sometimes common people provoke great people to fight between themselves, I would blame any of the sides.. a bi7chy Uchiha, a bi1chy Tobirama, anyone jealous of...

 

[Booty Sage1914]

Probably wanting to be stronger to protect everyone. This was a time where the only way you could have peace was to have everyone around you love you and those outside fear you to the point that they wouldn't dare attack you. The moment you let your guard down you become weak, just like the uchiha did.

 

[foxyladyland]

yeah, a plot made by any of the other gonzos. Sometimes common people provoke great people to fight between themselves, I would blame any of the sides.. a bi7chy Uchiha, a bi1chy Tobirama, anyone jealous of...

yeah possibly someone not mentioned..good post

Probably wanting to be stronger to protect everyone. This was a time where the only way you could have peace was to have everyone around you love you and those outside fear you to the point that they wouldn't dare attack you. The moment you let your guard down you become weak, just like the uchiha did.

wow i get your thinking.. i commonly agree to things like that .. nice idea

 

[Untung]

As i remmember izuna death becouse he give his eyes to madara......and no one kill izuna, it just ambition from madara to be no one in village, when uchiha and senju make alliance they will vote for 1 hokage, and as long i can remmember alot uchiha ppl vote for hashirama as 1st hokage, this is make madara hate the ppl of uchiha ( read chapter 590/18 2nd time ) event i still don't sure that is madara or obitoobito

 

[foxyladyland]

yeah obito says things about madara's life that madara might have told him, but obito wasnt around back then to know for sure
but the idea is that izuna died on the battlefield after he gave madara his eyes...
what if madara took the eyes to get stronger to protect izuna for his own good and izuna was weiry of it..
but madara took them anyway....then izuna died.....and madara felt bad about it and blamed himself for izuna's death..
then blamed hashirama for fihgting in the war that gave madara the idea to gain more power to protect his loved ones
no matter the cost

 

[Kikki]

He probably lost Izuna because of a senju killing him. Then went insane over the loss of his most loved person. Izuna's last wish was that he makes the clan stronger, clan went into truce though. He freaked out, tried to start rebellion, got rejected, left village to become stronger. Got the kyuubi, challenged Hashirama, lost again. Was all sad and broken, started moons eye plan to end the wars and get his own version of peace. Wanted to finally achieve control, died of old age, had two partners that betrayed him. Got revived as an edo, found it out and is now standing around waiting for a resolve.

His life in a nutshell.

 

[foxyladyland]

wow kikki that sounds about right...who were the two partners ? Nagato & Obito?

 

[Kikki]

wow kikki that sounds about right...who were the two partners ? Nagato & Obito?

Yeah, they both pretty much used his weird plan for their own purpose.

I hope he will find an ending similar to Nagato's who accepted that there are different ways to achieve peace. Peace seems to be a key factor, since it was even a topic for him when he was little. We will need alot of Naruto and Hashirama talk to get there I think. We'll see but it's getting more and more clear to me.

 

[foxyladyland]

do you think this chapter was awesome and revealed alot into madara&hashi&tobirama's character