Naruto being proven wrong

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Im not misunderstanding. you dont think its immature he is doing this ovet a girl?

He's doing over love. He watched his best friend kill the love of his life right after giving up his life for said best friend with 'protect XYZ' as a death wish. He felt betrayed. He's still going overboard, but come on... Naruto is really over doing it. Naruto was always annoying with his nonsense, but those last few war chapters made me want to swear of naruto. I rolled my eyes so many time during that saying 'oh god... more bullshit...'
 

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So what is Naruto supposed to do? Sit down and cry Obito a river? or fight to their limit, shoulder to shoulder with his friends with the thought of both the deceased and living in his hearts as per Itach+Kakashi+Hinata's TNJ implied?

That's probably what was implied when Itachi talked to Naruto about letting his friends be there for him and to not deal with it all himself. After Neji died, that's exactly what happened.
 

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That' the Uchiha for you... lol They love too strongly.

I still think Kakashi should tell him why Rin died. It might actually snap Obito out of it if he understands why it happened. Everything is just assumptions between both Obito and us readers until that happens.

Agreed like i just told the other person arguing with me
 

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Hey moron im 18 so im not a child. Also ive had loved ones die so yes i have the right to talk about this, so you can stfu and have a nice day

'I'm 18...'
You're still a child. Stfu.
 

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Agreed like i just told the other person arguing with me

We can't say whether it would change Obito or not, but I doubt he's as far gone as we think. Sometimes I think he's playing Madara as much as Madara's playing him (he even implied it), but his reaction would tell us how he really feels.
 

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That's probably what was implied when Itachi talked to Naruto about letting his friends be there for him and to not deal with it all himself. After Neji died, that's exactly what happened.

Hmm, ur right.... Sadly its only the hard earned lessons that goes straight to the heart . . . . and that lesson cost highly indeed, but at least Neji died happy.
 

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'I'm 18...'
You're still a child. Stfu.

In the united states when you're 18 you're considered an adult. You can be trialed as an adult and you can get death penalty etc... im not a child sorry
 

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Hmm, ur right.... Sadly its only the hard earned lessons that goes straight to the heart . . . . and that lesson cost highly indeed, but at least Neji died happy.

I found that scan the other day with Itachi talking to him. It sort of was a hint of what was to come for Naruto imo.

People think he might have joined Obito if Hinata hadn't stopped him, but I think he would have tried to attack him head on. They needed Kurama's chakra and if Naruto reacted like he did when Gaara died, the plan would have failed. By listening to Hinata and Kakashi's words, he was able to get it together and follow through with the plan, aiding everyone and letting them aid him.

At least that's how I see it. lol
 

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In the united states when you're 18 you're considered an adult. You can be trialed as an adult and you can get death penalty etc... im not a child sorry

Some cultues even consider 13 to be adult..... but its off topic......

He's doing over love. He watched his best friend kill the love of his life right after giving up his life for said best friend with 'protect XYZ' as a death wish. He felt betrayed. He's still going overboard, but come on... Naruto is really over doing it. Naruto was always annoying with his nonsense, but those last few war chapters made me want to swear of naruto. I rolled my eyes so many time during that saying 'oh god... more bullshit...'


So I ask again what Naruto is supposed to do? Cry himself a river cos he is faced with the harshness of reality and then hang himself at the nearest tree cos of his failures to protect EVERYONE in a goddamn war? (well he can not plan peace through world domination through mind controlled slavery as someone is already doing it) or grow up and mature from the lessons he learns?

Also again i request u to please tell me some better way to deal with things that does not appear nonsensical to u....

Again i request you to suggest what would be not
 

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So what is Naruto supposed to do? Sit down and cry Obito a river? or fight to their limit, shoulder to shoulder with his friends with the thought of both the deceased and living in his hearts as per Itach+Kakashi+Hinata's TNJ implied?

Nope, instead of crying him an ocean to be less overconfident if he can't keep on his words. In his latest speech he again said that Sasuke will remain as his friend. What if he's wrong again? This cycle of lies could be merciless again.
 
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Disagree. Naruto is the mature one, Obito is immature.
 

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Nope, instead of crying him an ocean to be less overconfident if he can't keep on his words. In his latest speech he again said that Sasuke will remain as his friend. What if he's wrong again? This cycle of lies could be merciless again.

It's his first time in a war, you expect to lose people in war but you don't actually think it's going to happen. and in his latest speech he said he would hope nobody would break their bonds with him, he didn't state "oMG SASUKE IS MI BFFLS 4EVER" he just simply stated that he wouldn't ever willingly cut off any bonds with anyone he cares for and that he hopes nobody would leave him hanging. what's immature about hoping that nobody would stop being your friend? i would hope that nobody stops being my friend.
 

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Disagree. Naruto is the mature one, Obito is immature.

i agree, he couldn't handle the death of Rin and the fact that people die and suffer. But Naruto is starting to realize that people die but they'll always live on in your heart and memories and quite frankly that's very true. Don't see how Naruto getting upset over the death of a dear friend is immature
 

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Where Obito and Naruto differ: Naruto is not alone, he is relying on his people, he, unlike Obito, values the bonds he has made, Obito severed the bonds he had(his village, his clan, his family, his sensei Minato, and his best friend Kakashi) because he don't care about the world anymore, he destroyed/bretrayed all the beloved ones he still had because he lost just one.
 

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Nope, instead of crying him an ocean to be less overconfident if he can't keep on his words. In his latest speech he again said that Sasuke will remain as his friend. What if he's wrong again? This cycle of lies could be merciless again.

So he will have to say "I will try to protect my friends, but i can not guarantee if i may actually be able to save them or not"...... wonderful way to make a resolve or promise: basically saying 'i m promising but not sure i can keep it'..... Please read Kakashi's statement to understand how reality of promises and ideals work.
Also if i remember well... Naruto was saddened by Neji's death, dismayed by potential loss of everyone he loved, not overconfident or arrogant about anything....

Also u ask what if Naruto is wrong again? He will 'endure' and do whats best for everyone. . . . . .
 

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I believe the only immature in that situation is Obito.
Naruto has his ideals and he proved to support them firmly.I don't think he will ever give up on a situation like that.Even if he loses,he will fight till the end.For me victory will always go to Naruto cause he knows how to stand up for what he believes.Even if what he believes is wrong.That takes balls to do and that's why he has my respect.
 

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So if naruto is so dumb and immature how is it that he has surpassed every one except madara and the first he is even on their level now as a ninja naruto is at the top in smartness if you can't see that then u r a fool. And as for being immature he is the most level headed person in the show and has the best logic of every one that's why people follow him in the beginning naruto was a cluzt and stupid and weak but that has changed ever since kakashi admitted to naruto surpassing him. My point is naruto is one of the smartest mature people in the show now.
 

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So if naruto is so dumb and immature how is it that he has surpassed every one except madara and the first he is even on their level now as a ninja naruto is at the top in smartness if you can't see that then u r a fool. And as for being immature he is the most level headed person in the show and has the best logic of every one that's why people follow him in the beginning naruto was a cluzt and stupid and weak but that has changed ever since kakashi admitted to naruto surpassing him. My point is naruto is one of the smartest mature people in the show now.

So are you saying Power = Intelligence, smh if so
 
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