How Naruto is Already Capable of fighting Base Hashirama!!!

MinatoTheYellowFlash · Feb 25, 2013

itachi1000 said:
Oh wow, you sure are making one hell of an ass of yourself that's for sure.:sy:

Yeah, sure I'm making a fool of myself when a newbie thinks a 16 year old has more smarts than a legend, sure am.

itachi1000 · Feb 25, 2013

MinatoTheYellowFlash said:
Are you stupid or retarded? I know Naruto was faster than sasuke (the fox anyways) but he got his new 3 tomoe and stopped his speed, that was the entire point of that comment.

So what if Sasuke has 3 tomoe sharingan. Now that Naruto has sm and km, there's no way in hell that Sasuke could keep up with him.

Just because Sasuke could read Naruto's km speed doesn't mean his body would be able to keep up. This fact was even stated back in Part I.

itachi1000 · Feb 25, 2013

MinatoTheYellowFlash said:
Yeah, sure I'm making a fool of myself when a newbie thinks a 16 year old has more smarts than a legend, sure am.

I didn't say he was smarter than Hashirama, i stated that because Naruto has good battle smarts, he would be more than capable of coming up with a bunch strategies that would allow him to face Base Hashirama. Not saying it would be guaranteed sure win but he would put up one hell of a fight. That's for sure.

blackstar9 · Feb 25, 2013

Hashirama is worst possible match for naruto .yamato was able to suppress the nine tails . yamato powerlevel is no where near the 1st hokage . kurama is suppressed leaving naruto with sage mode . but we know his sage mode has a time limit. hashirama can regenerate . has huge chakra , sages body etc hashi takes this. bijuu are his pets . naruto mostly relies on kurama bad natchup

itachi1000 · Feb 25, 2013

blackstar9 said:
Hashirama is worst possible match for naruto .yamato was able to suppress the nine tails . yamato powerlevel is no where near the 1st hokage . karma is suppressed leaving naruto with sage mode . but we know his sage mode has a time limit. hashirama can regenerate . has huge chakra , sages body etc

But it was stated that the Hokage Style Elder jutsu required the First hokage's necklace in order for it to work. But because the necklace was destroyed during the invasion of pain, this jutsu is rendered completely useless to use against Naruto now.

blackstar9 · Feb 25, 2013

itachi1000 said:
But he could only do that with the First Hokage's necklace which was in fact destroyed.

Hashi doesn't need it .the point is hashirama ability to suppress has to be way above yamato ability. since yamato only has some of hashi dna .

kyubbi sagemode · Feb 25, 2013

Great job nice thread

blackstar9 · Feb 25, 2013

itachi1000 said:
But it was stated that the Hokage Style Elder jutsu required the First hokage's necklace in order for it to work. But because the necklace was destroyed during the invasion of pain, this jutsu is rendered completely useless to use against Naruto now.

Hashi does not need the necklace. naruto and yamato did!

Lost Woods Denizen · Feb 25, 2013

Interesting thread. I took all the things that you wrote into consideration, but I still do not see Naruto being close to defeating Hashirama.

Hashirama's jutsu seem to be geared towards suppressing and defeating bijuu. His mokuton abilities include techniques specifically used to counter bijuu skills, such as a wooden dragon that absorbs their chakra, and a wooden golem that can catch and return a bijuudama. These two moves alone hamper the overtly destructive aspects of Naruto's fighting style. If Naruto chose to engage Hashirama in his beast mode cloak form, I am sure that Hashirama would be able to defeat him.

In his human, cloaked form, Naruto's techniques are limited to his speed, his clones, partial transformations, and his rasengan (and their variations.) On the other hand, Hashirama has his wood release, his weapons, and strength that is above Madara's physically. And in terms of tactics, Naruto is very good at creating plans on the spur of the moment, but Hashirama is a seasoned veteran that lead a clan to the height of the ninja world. He has been on the battlefield longer, and had a rival like Madara to constantly push the limits of his mental and physical endurance. His battle oriented maturity will help him defeat Naruto. I am sure that Naruto would not even know that the flowers are releasing a pollen into the air. None of the other kage did. And Hashirama does not appear to be a target that would lose in a chakra using battle. He has better control, stronger chakra in general, and possibly more in general.

In conclusion, I think that Hashirama would defeat Naruto, and it would not be especially challenging.

itachi1000 · Feb 25, 2013

Lost Woods Denizen said:
Interesting thread. I took all the things that you wrote into consideration, but I still do not see Naruto being close to defeating Hashirama.

Hashirama's jutsu seem to be geared towards suppressing and defeating bijuu. His mokuton abilities include techniques specifically used to counter bijuu skills, such as a wooden dragon that absorbs their chakra, and a wooden golem that can catch and return a bijuudama. These two moves alone hamper the overtly destructive aspects of Naruto's fighting style. If Naruto chose to engage Hashirama in his beast mode cloak form, I am sure that Hashirama would be able to defeat him.

In his human, cloaked form, Naruto's techniques are limited to his speed, his clones, partial transformations, and his rasengan (and their variations.) On the other hand, Hashirama has his wood release, his weapons, and strength that is above Madara's physically. And in terms of tactics, Naruto is very good at creating plans on the spur of the moment, but Hashirama is a seasoned veteran that lead a clan to the height of the ninja world. He has been on the battlefield longer, and had a rival like Madara to constantly push the limits of his mental and physical endurance. His battle oriented maturity will help him defeat Naruto. I am sure that Naruto would not even know that the flowers are releasing a pollen into the air. None of the other kage did. And Hashirama does not appear to be a target that would lose in a chakra using battle. He has better control, stronger chakra in general, and possibly more in general.

In conclusion, I think that Hashirama would defeat Naruto, and it would not be especially challenging.

Who said it would be that easy for Naruto to actually get a guarenteed sure win?

Besides, your forgeting that Naruto has a very important ally, Kurama, who remembers being under Madara's control. So that means Kurama should be able to remember the wood techniques that Hashirama used against him during the fight at the final valley. So because of this, Kurama would be able to pass on his knowledge to Naruto on how to counter any of Hashirama's wood techniques and you know once those two work together their an unstoppable force.

blackstar9 · Feb 25, 2013

itachi1000 said:
Who said it would be that easy for Naruto to actually get a guarenteed sure win?

Besides, your forgeting that Naruto has a very important ally, Kurama, who remembers being under Madara's control. So that means Kurama should be able to remember the wood techniques that Hashirama used against him during the fight at the final valley. So because of this, Kurama would be able to pass on his knowledge to Naruto on how to counter any of Hashirama's wood techniques and you know once those two work together their an unstoppable force.

Trying to convince yourself huh ? i already told you karma gets suppressed

Stencil · Feb 25, 2013

Saikyokage said:
Naruto would not win >.> without a doubt >.> and I didn't read this shid >.>

Well you should stfu then if you didn't read it, you arrogant prick.

itachi1000 · Feb 25, 2013

blackstar9 said:
Trying to convince yourself huh ? i already told you karma gets suppressed

I'm not trying to convince myself, I'm stating the fact that with Kurama's help and knowledge of the ninja world's history, Naruto would be ablt face base Hashirama and counter any of his wood techniques with out that much difficulty. Not saying it would be a guaranteed sure win but, Naruto would still put up one hell of a fight that's for sure.

Waltz · Feb 25, 2013

First, you