[Theory] Why An Uzumaki Is The Only One Who Can Fully Awaken The Rinnegan's Power

[Nupp]

I find it odd that Madara didn't retrieve the Rinnegan from Nagato when he acquired the allegiance and servitude of Obito. Madara needed Nagato to further awaken the Rinnegan's power, but if all the Rinnegan needed was the combination of both Senju and Uchiha DNA to awaken its' full potential then he could've given it to Obito instead.

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Take a look at Madara's statement, he said that Obito's half is made of Hashirama's cells, and the other half is definitely Uchiha DNA, which makes him Senju+Uchiha in one body, if this is what's all that's needed to awaken the Rinnegan's full power, then why didn't Madara ordered Obito to retrieve the Rinnegan from Nagato? (considering that if Nagato only has Senju DNA through his Uzumaki ancestry, then Obito being both Uchiha+Senju would be a better host) but Madara didn't order Obito to retrieve the Rinnegan, and in fact, he pointed out the fact that Obito couldn't have awaken the Rinnegan's full powers, but he was only able to control the Gedo Mazo by having both Senju+Uchiha DNA within him. So why then didn't Madara order Obito to retrieve it? and, even if we work on the premise that Obito didn't follow Madara's orders, then he surely would have taken the Rinnegan himself without having to wait for Nagato to fully awaken its' power if Obito was able to do it himself.

Which leads me to believe that Obito, even having both Senju+Uchiha DNA, would still have been capable to further awaken the Rinnegan.

Why then was Nagato the only suitable host of the Rinnegan's awakening?

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It is my suspicion, that Nagato, being an Uzumaki, was the only one capable of awakening the Rinnegan's full powers because Rikudou Sennin himself was an Uzumaki It would make logical sense since what Madara did to initially awaken the Rinnegan was reverse engineering the original Rinnegan of Rikudou Sennin by combining both the dominant genetic traits of Uchiha and Senju: The Eyes(Yin) and the body(Yang) of the Sage, Madara was only able to awaken the Rinnegan per se through this artificial means, but he needed someone who naturally possesses both Senju and Uchiha DNA to awaken its' full powers, meaning the Uzumaki blood that Nagato has is the original bloodline of the Sage of the Six Paths.

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Err Nagato already had Uchiha DNA in him along with Senju....

The Rinnengan eyes belong to Madara which clearly contain Uchiha DNA and he was an Uzumaki which are related to the Senju. So with those eyes he had the potential to unlock it's abilities completely, if he actually did or not remains to be seen.....

Madara was saying with both Senju and Uchiha DNA he could control the Gedo without the Rinnengan and was able to unlock his own Rinnengan given the Senju in his body

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Nah man. Nagato was the perfect suitor because of his traits. Uzumaki have an incredible life force and enormous chakra pools, so that makes him a desired candidate. Nagato would be able to use Rinne Tensei without sacrificing himself, which konan said that nagato dies because he already used up much of his chakra fighting naruto. Bringing back an entire village of people isn't something that an uchiha can do. He could use Rinnegan to it's fullest extent.

No, the uzumaki cannot awaken the rinnegan. The manga says that the sage "appeared" in a time of endless war. The sage was just one of those guys that just showed up one day. His origins are not important, only his actions. Until the manga says that he came from some special clan, or his bloodline was special then no. Not only that, but naruto is not getting rinnegan, I thought this was obvious. That would destroy his character, and his whole premise was to be a body representation of the SO6P. What the hell does he need rinnegan for? That what sasuke's purpose is, to be the eyes.

It's not at all impossible for the Sage to belong to a familial clan during that time.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

This was a very nice theory, but I doubt we'll find out whether the sage wan an Uzumaki or not. It was said he was a travelling monk, who taught people the ways of ninjutsu, doesn't sound like a clansman to me. Anyway, I enjoyed this theory.

He certainly was more akin to a priest which is exactly what the uzumaki were like.

 

[Kazekage Tony Uchiha]

This is because the Uzumaki is a direct bloodline of the sage

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Err Nagato already had Uchiha DNA in him along with Senju....

The Rinnengan eyes belong to Madara which clearly contain Uchiha DNA and he was an Uzumaki which are related to the Senju. So with those eyes he had the potential to unlock it's abilities completely, if he actually did or not remains to be seen.....

Madara was saying with both Senju and Uchiha DNA he could control the Gedo without the Rinnengan and was able to unlock his own Rinnengan given the Senju in his body

But Obito already has both Senju and Uchiha DNA in him too, why not retrieve the Rinnegan and have Obito awaken it if all that was needed was senju and uchiha dna?

 

[Chīkara]

But Nagato didn't have a Sharingan, yet he was able to fully awaken it.

true. but he cant put it off like madara. he was able to use it because he get it early in his life and because the huge chakra the uzumaki clan posses.
but actually its the same as kakashi he implanted obito's eye but os not able to undo it he cant use it as much because he is low on chakra

 

[hamer34]

why can't i hold all these theories

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

true. but he cant put it off like madara. he was able to use it because he get it early in his life and because the huge chakra the uzumaki clan posses.
but actually its the same as kakashi he implanted obito's eye but os not able to undo it he cant use it as much because he is low on chakra

That's not the point, the point is possessing both uchiha and senju dna, even if we assume that the Rinnegan was purely Uchiha DNA and Nagato by virtue of being an Uzumaki possesses Senju dna, then why not take it back and give it to Obito who fully possesses both Senju and Uchiha instead of the diluted Senju blooded Nagato, unless the bloodline itself of the Uzumakis was not diluted but rather the original bloodline.

 

[Waltz]

Nagato was new at using gedo mazoo and konan warned nagato not to use that jutsu for gedo mazo to use that jutsu it needed chakra and nagato was the only chakra source as the bijju were not sealed in gedo mazo
obito on the other hand got gedo mazo with the bijuu that s why he was able to use it without damaging his body

Nope, also wrong.


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that he was absorbing chakra from the mazou? there's no denying that the Mazou itself is an eternal fountain of chakra being the shell of the juubi, that is expected.

 

[Sephy100]

It's already been established that So6P was a combination of Senju and Uchiha so stop thinking that he was Uzumaki.

 

[MyPainHurtsMe]

I only disagree with Uzumakis possessing both Senju and Uchiha DNA.

The sage was originally an uzumaki but his DNA changes when he sealed the juubi in him.

Great work as always

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Nah man. Nagato was the perfect suitor because of his traits. Uzumaki have an incredible life force and enormous chakra pools, so that makes him a desired candidate. Nagato would be able to use Rinne Tensei without sacrificing himself, which konan said that nagato dies because he already used up much of his chakra fighting naruto. Bringing back an entire village of people isn't something that an uchiha can do. He could use Rinnegan to it's fullest extent.

No, the uzumaki cannot awaken the rinnegan. The manga says that the sage "appeared" in a time of endless war. The sage was just one of those guys that just showed up one day. His origins are not important, only his actions. Until the manga says that he came from some special clan, or his bloodline was special then no. Not only that, but naruto is not getting rinnegan, I thought this was obvious. That would destroy his character, and his whole premise was to be a body representation of the SO6P. What the hell does he need rinnegan for? That what sasuke's purpose is, to be the eyes.

The uchiha can very well do this they are the masters of the eyes anyways, its only obvious that they can. and Sasuke will awaken rinnegan but something else that makes him even more powerful than madara (not susanoo, i think)

 

[Nupp]

But Obito already has both Senju and Uchiha DNA in him too, why not retrieve the Rinnegan and have Obito awaken it if all that was needed was senju and uchiha dna?

Because it was already a plan in action and having a kid who might join you is hardly reason to mess about with it

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

It's already been established that So6P was a combination of Senju and Uchiha so stop thinking that he was Uzumaki.

And couldn't the Uzumakis be that original bloodline? seems very probable.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Because it was already a plan in action and having a kid who might join you is hardly reason to mess about with it

If you are referring to Obito he's not just some "kid" he is Madara's protege and successor.

 

[staticdash22]

But Nagato didn't have a Sharingan, yet he was able to fully awaken it.

Did you miss the part where Madara told obito he gave his eyes to someone else? This was supported when he showed obito his eyes and said the one he has now is a spare. Nagato was physically given his eyes by Madara or Zetsu who performed the operation. Madara said he awakened Rinnegan near the end of his life.

 

[Booker]

He needed Nagato to have the Rinnegan so he could revive Madara right?

 

[3MESSIAH]

Damn! not these sage being an uzumaki threads again! i like your thread btw,but it has been stated by obito that nagato is of SENJU lineage.so that means uzumaki is connected to the SENJU,which could be comprehended as that UZUMAKI and SENJU are clans deriving from the younger son because of their strong bodies and life force just like uchiha and probably hyuuga clans are deriving from the elder son because of eyes and spiritual power.

madara would have given the rinnegan to obito if he had met him first,but he gave it to nagato first....so why would obito bother stealing nagato`s eyes(which would be f%(/&)cking hard to do considering nagato is a strong dude)when he could win nagato to his cause,let him develop his already developed powers,use him,and take his eyes when he died?? i think this is a way smarter choice because there is no way obito could take nagato`s eyes at that time.

but you`re probably right on the account that nagato had a better body to develop and use rinnegan`s powers on a greater scale because afterall obito just had some portions of SENJU DNA,while nagato had entire body and stamina of the younger son because of being an uzumaki

 

[The Western Wheel]

he summoned the 2 meteorites with rinnegan and obito stated he could revive madara with his rinnegan they are connected to juubo that was the reason why.they cant use it might come now

The meteors are creation of all time, no paths, and the rinne tensei is the 7th path. Again not one of the six paths. IMO, but maybe your right. I am talking about the full scale use of the six paths(at the same time) like 6POP, or Nagato.

 

[Gaara]

nice thread as usual.