[Theory] Why An Uzumaki Is The Only One Who Can Fully Awaken The Rinnegan's Power

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I find it odd that Madara didn't retrieve the Rinnegan from Nagato when he acquired the allegiance and servitude of Obito. Madara needed Nagato to further awaken the Rinnegan's power, but if all the Rinnegan needed was the combination of both Senju and Uchiha DNA to awaken its' full potential then he could've given it to Obito instead.

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Take a look at Madara's statement, he said that Obito's half is made of Hashirama's cells, and the other half is definitely Uchiha DNA, which makes him Senju+Uchiha in one body, if this is what's all that's needed to awaken the Rinnegan's full power, then why didn't Madara ordered Obito to retrieve the Rinnegan from Nagato? (considering that if Nagato only has Senju DNA through his Uzumaki ancestry, then Obito being both Uchiha+Senju would be a better host) but Madara didn't order Obito to retrieve the Rinnegan, and in fact, he pointed out the fact that Obito couldn't have awaken the Rinnegan's full powers, but he was only able to control the Gedo Mazo by having both Senju+Uchiha DNA within him. So why then didn't Madara order Obito to retrieve it? and, even if we work on the premise that Obito didn't follow Madara's orders, then he surely would have taken the Rinnegan himself without having to wait for Nagato to fully awaken its' power if Obito was able to do it himself.

Which leads me to believe that Obito, even having both Senju+Uchiha DNA, would still have been incapable to further awaken the Rinnegan.

Why then was Nagato the only suitable host of the Rinnegan's awakening?

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It is my suspicion, that Nagato, being an Uzumaki, was the only one capable of awakening the Rinnegan's full powers because Rikudou Sennin himself was an Uzumaki It would make logical sense since what Madara did to initially awaken the Rinnegan was reverse engineering the original Rinnegan of Rikudou Sennin by combining both the dominant genetic traits of Uchiha and Senju: The Eyes(Yin) and the body(Yang) of the Sage, Madara was only able to awaken the Rinnegan per se through this artificial means, but he needed someone who naturally possesses both Senju and Uchiha DNA to awaken its' full powers, meaning the Uzumaki blood that Nagato has is the original bloodline of the Sage of the Six Paths.

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PS: Rikudou Sennin's Image in the Gedo Mazo in ch. 606, The Uzumaki Symbols appear on Rikudou Sennin:

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Along with what appears to be a scroll on his back, probably the Scroll of Seals that Naruto stole in chapter 1:

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Madara never hinted that Obito has the capacity to awaken his own Rinnegan

What applies to Madara doesn't necessarily apply to Obito, and I don't think that in any dialogue Madara gave any hint that Obito could unlock the Rinnegan himself, even for the sake of argument we assume Madara was referring to Obito's potential of awakening the Rinnegan in that panel, why would he verbalize hesitation of Obito's capacity to awaken it "even if you don't awaken the Rinnegan" instead of "Even if you don't immediately awaken the Rinnegan" if it was really just senju+uchiha dna that's all that's needed to unlock it? Therefore, it is only logical for Madara to refer to his own Rinnegan's further awakening and not Obito's.







 
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Possible, but I doubt that we will ever find out by true fact from Kishimoto that Rikudou Sennin is/was an Uzumaki :|

Anyway, good theory!
 

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I was waiting for someone to say this. If you really think of it, Naruto and Nagato are the only suitable hosts for the Rinnegan because of their immense chakra levels.

I agree so much.
 

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you know that the senju and uzumaki's are reletives right? and the sotsp was both senju and uchiha. the elder son become uchiha and the younger son uzumaki/senju
 

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Derp, you're really putting everything into the "Sage was an Uzumaki" theories, huh?

I have no problem with that though, they're very nice reads :D
 

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Nope.

Nagato couldn't even summon the Gedo and use it for battle as Obito did without it sucking on his life force and chakra. Even though he spurred it to perform the technique it immediately disappeared after, he couldn't even use it for battle. It came from underground ...possibly madara's layer, not a big "poof!" of smoke as any normal summon should nor as when Obito summoned the gedo . Obviously a setup. With this fact, Madara stand corrected with the fact that Senju DNA grants true mastery over the Rinnegan. Also, the Sage wasn't an uzumaki.

Saying that it only happened because of the Mazou required chakra is also falsity. Mokuton . Also, Didn't that he was absorbing chakra from the mazou? there's no denying that the Mazou itself is an eternal fountain of chakra being the shell of the juubi, that is expected.
 
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nice thread. but think obito wasnt able to get the rinnegan because you have to hit the final stage of the sharingan.
he also only had 1 sharingan eye. it could be dangerous for obtio to get the rinnegan from minato
because he was a skilled ninja after all. so the best thing was to let him just.join
 

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Yes. It is otherwise strange at least that neither Uchiha's have used all paths, just limit themselves to summoning the Gedo. Madara used the Rinnegan to absorb, but that's as far as it goes, right?

I think it would take really long for a non-Uzumaki to gain full control of the Rinnegan abilities. And it otherwise just doesn't add up. Rinnegan=eye of samsara=6 paths=eyes of the sage= the only conclusion that fits is indeed the sage being an Uzumaki.

personally I think Madara wiped the entire Uzumaki clan out, except Nagato, and rewired his memories with genjutsu...
 

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I was waiting for someone to say this. If you really think of it, Naruto and Nagato are the only suitable hosts for the Rinnegan because of their immense chakra levels.

I agree so much.
or uchiha's with senju dna who managrd to get ems
 

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nice thread. but think obito wasnt able to get the rinnegan because you have to hit the final stage of the sharingan.
he also only had 1 sharingan eye. it could be dangerous for obtio to get the rinnegan from minato
because he was a skilled ninja after all. so the best thing was to let him just.join

But Nagato didn't have a Sharingan, yet he was able to fully awaken it.
 

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Nope.

Nagato couldn't even summon the Gedo and use it for battle as Obito did without it sucking on his life force and chakra. Even though he spurred it to perform the technique it came from underground...possibly madara's layer, not a big "poof!" of smoke as any normal summon should nor as when Obito summoned the gedo . With this fact, Madara stand corrected with the fact that Senju DNA grants true mastery over the Rinnegan. Also, the Sage wasn't an uzumaki.

Nagato was new at using gedo mazoo and konan warned nagato not to use that jutsu for gedo mazo to use that jutsu it needed chakra and nagato was the only chakra source as the bijju were not sealed in gedo mazo
obito on the other hand got gedo mazo with the bijuu that s why he was able to use it without damaging his body
 

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This was a very nice theory, but I doubt we'll find out whether the sage wan an Uzumaki or not. It was said he was a travelling monk, who taught people the ways of ninjutsu, doesn't sound like a clansman to me. Anyway, I enjoyed this theory.
 

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Nah man. Nagato was the perfect suitor because of his traits. Uzumaki have an incredible life force and enormous chakra pools, so that makes him a desired candidate. Nagato would be able to use Rinne Tensei without sacrificing himself, which konan said that nagato dies because he already used up much of his chakra fighting naruto. Bringing back an entire village of people isn't something that an uchiha can do. He could use Rinnegan to it's fullest extent.

No, the uzumaki cannot awaken the rinnegan. The manga says that the sage "appeared" in a time of endless war. The sage was just one of those guys that just showed up one day. His origins are not important, only his actions. Until the manga says that he came from some special clan, or his bloodline was special then no. Not only that, but naruto is not getting rinnegan, I thought this was obvious. That would destroy his character, and his whole premise was to be a body representation of the SO6P. What the hell does he need rinnegan for? That what sasuke's purpose is, to be the eyes.
 

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Yes. It is otherwise strange at least that neither Uchiha's have used all paths, just limit themselves to summoning the Gedo. Madara used the Rinnegan to absorb, but that's as far as it goes, right?

I think it would take really long for a non-Uzumaki to gain full control of the Rinnegan abilities. And it otherwise just doesn't add up. Rinnegan=eye of samsara=6 paths=eyes of the sage= the only conclusion that fits is indeed the sage being an Uzumaki.

personally I think Madara wiped the entire Uzumaki clan out, except Nagato, and rewired his memories with genjutsu...
he summoned the 2 meteorites with rinnegan and obito stated he could revive madara with his rinnegan they are connected to juubo that was the reason why.they cant use it might come now
 

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SOON EVERYONE WILL HAVE TO FACE THE INHERENT TRUTH

Sage(Uzumaki) + Juubi = Senju & Uchiha Ancestors

Uchiha take more characteristics from the juubi while the Senju take more characteristics from the sage himself.

This is why Naruto has the sages silhouette shroud.
He himself is already an uzumaki which subsides the need for senju dna and having all the chakra of every tailed beast subverts his need for uchiha dna.Right now Naruto is the closest to the sage since he inhibits all the chakra the sage had.
 
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