Is the kyuubi part of madara's power?

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Do you think its fair that madara has the kyuubi to fight against hashirama?

Do you think the fight is: madara + kyuubi VS hashirama

Or do you think: its fair that madara uses the kyuubi its his summonning, just like naruto has the toads. He worked hard for getting this summon so its only natural he uses it, it belongs to hid power
 

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Fair or not the fact is mandara + kybi vs hashirama = hashirama win.
 

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No, it should be like this: "Is it fair that Kishimoto made Hashirama much stronger than Madara + Kurama?" :y
 

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Its his summoning dude so it does count.But he doesn't have access to that anymore just like Manda not being able to be summoned by Sasuke.
 

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If your askign if it was a 2vs1 yes it was
Madara doesnt own Kurama
He felt uncomfortable of taking on hashi alone so he took prep but stil failed.
 

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Yeah i know but what i mean is: hashirama >>>>>>> madara + kyuubi

But if madara would just be on his own without kyuubi, he is a gennin fodder compared to hashi
 

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The Kyuubi did nothing great in the fight. Madara had to protect it, I don't see why he just didn't spam his Perfect Susano'o sword slash and kill Hashirama.
 

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The Kyuubi did nothing great in the fight. Madara had to protect it, I don't see why he just didn't spam his Perfect Susano'o sword slash and kill Hashirama.

DUDE have you not seen the last page of the current chapter o_O?
 

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The Kyuubi did nothing great in the fight. Madara had to protect it, I don't see why he just didn't spam his Perfect Susano'o sword slash and kill Hashirama.

Because Kishi decided that it would be useless because Hashi>Madara so whatever your craving Uchiha fantasy scenarios are going on in ur mind are of no value so u better accept the truth.
 

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The kyuubi didn't contribute much in that fight based on what we have seen other than split madara's concentration. And it was his power not anymore though.
 

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DUDE have you not seen the last page of the current chapter o_O?

Yes, did you not see one swing of Perfect Susano'o sword slice clean through six mountains? Plus he has two swords.
Because Kishi decided that it would be useless because Hashi>Madara so whatever your craving Uchiha fantasy scenarios are going on in ur mind are of no value so u better accept the truth.

I know he didn't want Madara to own him.
 
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He summoned it, so of course. The fact remains that Madara, throughout his life, has always lost to Hashirama - in everything. He always has and plot will ensure he always will.
 

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This whole "is it his power or not" idea really is one of my pet peeves. It's only really viable in versus threads or a tier list but having the Kyuubi or not should be stated anyways. Battles run off scenarios, and the Kyuubi might or might not be accessible in these scenarios. You have to define "earning something" since it's more of a subjective thing. For example, I don't think simply training 24/7 at a gym is the only way to earn a power.
 

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wow are you dumb you asked a question and I answered it. not mad fyi

:| No!

I just gave a suggesting how the question should have been and to kidaround with it :y :D
 

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Well, he kinda trained a lot and did other random sh*t to attain his ocular prowess, so he has every right to use it to control Kurama.

Yup, part of his power.
 

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if madara+kyuubi<hashirama
i.e madara<hashirama...

a simple maths eq. which is enough to prove that madara is nothin bu a piece of shit in front of hashirama...
 
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