iSpeak the Truth
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Jiraiya beat Pain, but then his other Pain clones stepped in. So I guess Jiraiya beat Pain too.
So...out of all the jutsu in the Narutoverse....
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i beleive genjutsu to be the deadliest of all jutsu's... I want to see someone take a tsukuyomi (with intent to kill) and try to keep standing let alone walk away from it... *the (with intent to kill) does negate sasuke's little triumph as itachi was just playing around with sasuke... as well as how many ppl died from the mizukage, and that was with him sitting there and announcing all of his attacks and weaknesses, wat if he just fought and let them try to figure it out on thier own, how many more would of died... the small trick genjutsu's that always leave easy kill shot openings on ppl... unless ur a sensory type, or a sharingan user genjutsu usually kills once applied... and sensory users are usually too weak to fight anyway... and the OP trump card of the uchiha is a rare event to run into...
iFlowMotion
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DAMN skippy
Exactly
THIS ^^^
Itachi himself stated this ^^
The bold makes it very obvious your trolling.
Pertaining to Hashirama...the first Naruto Databook says he died in battle.
RasenUchihaChaos
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how do you win agaisnt a dead body win the live one isnt there he beat the 3 but still lost naruot lost ot pain kurama won
he didnt even beat nagato nagato beat himself
Itachi Rane
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i don't think natural chakra and kurama chakra are compatible.....wasn't it mentioned somewhere that while using sage mode naruto can't go use kurama chakra?? If that's so then BM+SM shouldn't be possible unless plot...
it wasn't possible becase the fox resisted, but now they're friends so theoretically he could do it now, he's already done it before, and kishi is never the kind of guy to give such a major transformation a minor part, like when naruto resisted pein.
iSpeak the Truth
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Jutsu = Technique
Sage Techniques allow all jutsu to be enhanced through it, doesn't mean it isn't a technique. And there are some Sage jutsu exclusive techniques as well, so it is a type of jutsu. If Sasuke uses a Genjutsu or Ninjutsu through his Dojutsu, does that mean eye techniques can't be counted as real techniques? lol And you say I fail? You hatred of me is blinding you. Still mad over that other thread?
Itachi Rane
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well...those who say naruto won against pein...let me tell you...naruto does deserve credit..he perfected sage mode and did kill some of the pein paths BUT BEFORE THAT
1. Naruto had intel on pein....he knew about pein's techniques, 5 sec interval b/w consecutive deva path techs, each of the pein having a unique ability, one of them having the ability to revive the other peins etc. So with that i think beating atleast 4 of the peins is easy, jiraiya himself could beat 3 of them by analysing ON SPOT and unaware of the existence of 3 more peins, plus he let his guard down.
2. Naruto actually lost to pein...basically nagato was the enemy right??? nagato started controlling his peins AT A STRETCH FROM THE INVASION. So basically nagato controlled his peins to fight all of konoha ninjas including kakashi, tsunade, etc with the chakra he had before the start of the invasion. His chakra started depleating after that....and by the time naruto came, nagato was already left with atmost half of his actual chakra...if not less....and after that he controlled his paths to fight against naruto. Still after that he had to deal with 8 tails.....his deva pein was fighting 8 tails but basically it was nagato's chakra that was being used for that. So already he was weakened and then his final pein was destroyed. So i don't think naruto actually defeated nagato...in fact even BM naruto cannot defeat healthy Nagato alone with his path abilities....
1. Naruto had intel on pein....he knew about pein's techniques, 5 sec interval b/w consecutive deva path techs, each of the pein having a unique ability, one of them having the ability to revive the other peins etc. So with that i think beating atleast 4 of the peins is easy, jiraiya himself could beat 3 of them by analysing ON SPOT and unaware of the existence of 3 more peins, plus he let his guard down.
2. Naruto actually lost to pein...basically nagato was the enemy right??? nagato started controlling his peins AT A STRETCH FROM THE INVASION. So basically nagato controlled his peins to fight all of konoha ninjas including kakashi, tsunade, etc with the chakra he had before the start of the invasion. His chakra started depleating after that....and by the time naruto came, nagato was already left with atmost half of his actual chakra...if not less....and after that he controlled his paths to fight against naruto. Still after that he had to deal with 8 tails.....his deva pein was fighting 8 tails but basically it was nagato's chakra that was being used for that. So already he was weakened and then his final pein was destroyed. So i don't think naruto actually defeated nagato...in fact even BM naruto cannot defeat healthy Nagato alone with his path abilities....
iSpeak the Truth
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Look, you never make any logical sense. That point doesn't even refute anything nor does it have any relevance, you just threw it out there and now expect me to make something of it? I'm just gonna block you. Good riddance.
Itachi Rane
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if SM+BM at all happens it only means naruto will gain more raw power..that's all...like a superman. Because in SM we haven't seen naruto use any sage techniques like jiraiya and in BM we have bijuu dama....plus naruto's own techniques....so won't make much of a difference other than increase in raw power....