[Theory] The Scroll of Seals, Rikudou Sennin and the Uzumakis

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Oh c'mon King, don't tell me you truly believe that Mokuton binding by itself was enough to restrain Kurama or the other Bijuus forever? right?:confused:

O-o. Who said they were gonna be restrained in Mokuton the entire time? lol.. It was only till the fight was over..
 

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O-o. Who said they were gonna be restrained in Mokuton the entire time? lol.. It was only till the fight was over..

So after that what? what would Hashirama do with Kurama when it breaks free from the mokuton binding? doesn't that entail the necessity of a Jinchuuriki to host them like Mito?
 

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So after that what? what would Hashirama do with Kurama when it breaks free from the mokuton binding? doesn't that entail the necessity of a Jinchuuriki to host them like Mito?

How should i know .. dang man. shit. Kurama CAN'T break from the Mokuton dragon.. lol. And also, no the tailed beast doesn't have to be sealed inside a jinchuriki alone.

Just like the Sand's shukaku.
 

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How should i know .. dang man. shit. Kurama CAN'T break from the Mokuton dragon.. lol. And also, no the tailed beast doesn't have to be sealed inside a jinchuriki alone.

Just like the Sand's shukaku.

Because I find it odd that Hashirama who Mokuton binded Kurama after fighting with Madara would either just let Kurama be binded forever which is unlikely, or if it breaks away, just let it go! what is Hashirama some sort of Bijuu Sports Hunter of letting go of a dangerous prey afterwards? lol, isn't it more likely that afterwards he needed Mito to seal Kurama away for good inside her? and also Shukaku had two previous Jinchuurikis before Gaara.
 
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Because I find it odd that Hashirama who Mokuton binded Kurama after fighting with Madara would either just let Kurama be binded forever which is unlikely, or if it breaks away, just let it go! what is Hashirama some sort of Bijuu Sports Hunter of letting go of a dangerous prey afterwards? lol, isn't it more likely that afterwards he needed Mito to seal Kurama away for good inside her? and also Shukaku had two previous Jinchuurikis before Gaara.

He actually only binded Kyuubi because of the potential danger it possessed if controlled..And also, he didn't need Mito to seal it.. he could've done it himself.. Uzumaki and Senju clan are very close to each other.. Minato didn't have a Uzumaki clan to learn from.. but only his wife.. applying the same concept to Hashirama is a flaw.

Shukaku was also sealed inside a container/jar.


Jinchuriki are basically "nuclear weapons" for a village. Hashirama did not need Jinchurikis.
 

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I do agree that Rikudō Sennin has some type of relation with uzumaki, but I do not think Rikudō Sennin was originally a uzumaki though. Remember Rikudō Sennin kekkei genkai was both senju and uchiha, which is how he was able to awaken the rinnegan.
 

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Awesome sauce. The uzumaki clan are related to the so6p somehow, someway. I'm jus waiting for Kishi to confirm it. Good stuff tho. I wonder who has that scroll now. + rep tho
 

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He actually only binded Kyuubi because of the potential danger it possessed if controlled..And also, he didn't need Mito to seal it.. he could've done it himself.. Uzumaki and Senju clan are very close to each other.. Minato didn't have a Uzumaki clan to learn from.. but only his wife.. applying the same concept to Hashirama is a flaw.

Shukaku was also sealed inside a container/jar.


Jinchuriki are basically "nuclear weapons" for a village. Hashirama did not need Jinchurikis.

The villages needed jinchuurikis to utilize the bijuus powers properly in the first place, so the bijuus indeed needed jinchuurikis if they were going to use them as weapons, let me ask you this, do you think Hashirama wouldve just accepted Mito's offer to become Kurama's host, his wife who will burden that great hardship and responsibility, if it wasnt absolutely needed in the 1st place? You think Hashirama would just accept Mito's sacrifice if he could perpetually bind or control the bijuus all by himself?
 

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The villages needed jinchuurikis to utilize the bijuus powers properly in the first place, so the bijuus indeed needed jinchuurikis if they were going to use them as weapons, let me ask you this, do you think Hashirama wouldve just accepted Mito's offer to become Kurama's host, his wife who will burden that great hardship and responsibility, if it wasnt absolutely needed in the 1st place? You think Hashirama would just accept Mito's sacrifice if he could perpetually bind or control the bijuus all by himself?

However only a PERFECT Jinchuriki can utilize the bijuu's power properly. And only 3 have been named so far.

However, Hashirama did not need their power.. since he was already superior to them...

It was her Choice..... Hashirama probably wouldn't even have made anyone a jinchuriki.... lol.

The Kyuubi is a curse and a blessing. lol. Hashirama was already busy with a fight..... it was MITO's choice.. why are you bringing Hashirama into this?
 

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However only a PERFECT Jinchuriki can utilize the bijuu's power properly. And only 3 have been named so far.

However, Hashirama did not need their power.. since he was already superior to them...

It was her Choice..... Hashirama probably wouldn't even have made anyone a jinchuriki.... lol.

The Kyuubi is a curse and a blessing. lol. Hashirama was already busy with a fight..... it was MITO's choice.. why are you bringing Hashirama into this?

Well, it's just that I think Hashirama would not have allowed his wife Mito to take on the burden of becoming Kurama's Jinchuuriki unless it was absolutely necessary for her to be one in order to properly seal and control Kyuubi.

And btw, did not Mizuki state the scroll (or the information contained in it) was used to seal Kurama inside Naruto?

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DUN DUN DUN nice theory
i would give you rep but the music scared me
jk you already have too much rep
 

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And doesn't the image of the Rikudou Sennin on the Gedo Mazo resemble the said scroll?

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I liked the theory but you made a mistake that unties the scroll to the Sage. That thing behind his back is not a scroll it's his arms. Notice how there are hands sticking out from both ends, and how on the left side the hand is holding the staff. So no, it's not the scroll.

On the other hand the So6P was the very first Host, and we admit that all other hosts became so with a technique based on Rikudo's. That the scroll would have been seen by many people and originated all the different ways of sealing a beast. That is unrealistic.

I'm not saying I don't agree with you, the Sage being an Uzumaki is quite plausible at this stage, but the arguments you brought aren't strong enough to provo or give this theory any special edge over any other. :)
 

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I liked the theory but you made a mistake that unties the scroll to the Sage. That thing behind his back is not a scroll it's his arms. Notice how there are hands sticking out from both ends, and how on the left side the hand is holding the staff. So no, it's not the scroll.

On the other hand the So6P was the very first Host, and we admit that all other hosts became so with a technique based on Rikudo's. That the scroll would have been seen by many people and originated all the different ways of sealing a beast. That is unrealistic.

I'm not saying I don't agree with you, the Sage being an Uzumaki is quite plausible at this stage, but the arguments you brought aren't strong enough to provo or give this theory any special edge over any other. :)

I think the hands are protruding from the robe, and you can clearly see the image is in a sitting position and the square image is clearly above the shoulders, so its an object i think :)
 
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where have you taken that image from? Can you provide the unedited manga scan? So I can try and see what you are saying..

Because to me it looks like a stylized depiction of this:

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Um the one I edit on google it should have a blank background also look for my stolen kyuubi mode rikudousennin
 
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