[Discussion] Is Gray and Mirajane underestimated by Hiroshima and Fans?

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Gray's powers to me seem like they have depriciated rather than increased. In the begining of the series gray was able to create multiple objects with his ice make but now it seems like he only creates swords and spears. I feel like the ulimited swords move gray performed is somthing he could have preformed pre time skip it would have just deplited more of his magical powers. Also Gray seems to have lost his cleverness in battle. Pesonally i would of liked him to train rather than recieve second orgin due to that fact it would of probably did more for him. He could of learned Dynamic Ice-Make increasing his vertilaty with ice make magic. Gray would make an excellent s class wizard due to his matery over his magic. Gray has bronze and smarts but it tends to get overshadowed do to him not being protrayed to relize his true protential. If gray would of train he would have not only been able to use more magic but he would of got better aquainted with his magic probably to the point were he could make moving fist out of ice like jura did with rocks. Him training vs second orgin could have possibly been the deference from reaching s class level or just becoming somewhat stronger.

Mirajane to me seems to be underestimated due to her fights which from what i know she nevers fights at her fulliest like some other mages. during her fight with azuma she lost but what doesnt really make sense to me is why she didnt use any of the other stronger forms we have seen. I mean you would think if her sister was in trouble should would go all out like erza did but no she stayed in her regualar satan soul. Even with this why didnt she use some lighting attacks against azuma. Even if she had fought before why didnt she just change into her strongest form which probably would have been more effective once she relized her regular satan soul wasnt doing the trick. Also why cant she give jura a hard time or beat jura in a fight. Mirajane has been shown to be able to break through solid rock in her satan soul forms so why couldnt she break through juras. I am not saying that she has as much magical power as jura but her magic is perfectly suited to fight him to a draw or possibly win. Mirajane strength and speed alone should give jura a hard time. Jura is really strong dont get me wrong but some mages magic could definitly pose a problem for him. Such as those who have speed on thier side and those who could break through solid rock. From the feats i have seen i can honestly say that mirajane could give jura a good fight.(without any body being trolled everything based off of feats)
 

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please put spoiler alert above for the people only watching the anime.
 

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what anime are you talking about?
 

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I agree, Gray is falling behind on Natsu. They were supposed to be equal, but now Natsu is loaded with power-ups and Gray is actually going downhill. Although, he could easily become S-class considering that Juvia was S-class during the Phantom arc.

As for Mira, wasn't she sort of retired? She never takes jobs and she's the master's assistant. So I guess she isn't as skilled as she used to be.
 

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fuuuck i only watch anime dude cmon ****
 

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jura hardens the earth so it would not be the same as normal rock. And your underestimating gray he beat ultear like it was nothing, plus you
shouldn't underestimate him because he was taught by Ul who was at the level of one of the ten wizard saints. Put spoiler on it because I only watch anime
 

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I think Mirajane is stronger than Erza. She has Satan soul which is very strong and she still has two stronger forms left.

The only reason she lost to Azuma was because she had little magic power left and couldn't waste it on big attacks..
But she doesn't like to fight and only does so when her family is in danger.
 

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if you read the manga more carefully, there was a sentence in the Asuma/Mira fight where she told him, her satan soul is not something that could be activated just like that. she needs something to trigger it, maybe some mental stance or whatnot, but at their fight she couldn't maintain it.

even if she retired, she's still an s-class wizard. her skills won't fade away that easily. she most probably could stand up for a good fight against Jura, but they never fought before and probably never will. also Jura is a wizard saint which suggests he's more than was shown.
 
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