Galactusss
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Perhaps the the summoning of the 1000 hand statue will enable some kind of Sage form, but I think the facial changes are a result of an advanced chakra storage release like Tsunade's
[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions
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what saddens me is that , i think, we just saw maybe the climax of their battle which created the Valley if the End! Because Madara's EMS full power is the complete Susano and he united with Kurama who can only be summoned for short period of time! As for Hashirama entering SM almost instanly and making a TITANIC jutsu like that..... well i cant imagine more in terms of attacking prowees from both of them! Unless things go so far as to tajitsu fight or swordfight! That would be cool !
Nope it was his sage mode. One only he could do it was not storing. The facial markings just appeared from no where(like Jiraiya incomplete sage mode), where as when Tsunade is storing chakra it puts a dot on her forehead, that's where the most concentrated chakra is built up. Combined with the fact that Kishimoto called it Sage Art.
TheRedHotHabanero
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Mixed feelings about this chapter as well. The fight was totally awesome. A Susanoo covered Kurama, say what? :whoa: But it went crazy quick and the ending was cheesy. Its cool seeing them as kids, but lets get back to Sasukes question. I have been waiting for this information between hashi and madara for a while, but there are so many other intense things going on that I just really want to see more of the 4th and some more movement towards Sasukes resolve. BUT patience is a virtue :scorps:
it was great but would have loved it if there were more pages of the actual battle between the two super aweaome summons, the Susanoo armored Ninetails and the out of this world thousand hand buddah.... great chapter..
Galactusss
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I was thinking, what if they weren't for actual taijutsu attacks, but they all formed handsigns instead, Hashirama provided the necessary chakra, and performed hundreds of very powerful ninjutsu all at onceMaybe it has something to do with using the thousand hands ya think?U_U
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xenoman1127
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Pretty good chapter, I especially liked how at the end they put both of them as kids, that was neat. I liked the epic battle Nd the fact that hashirama has sage mode, thats cool. I give this chapter 4/5 though because it needed more pages. I just dont like when they put on picture for a whole page.
Hiruzen Is Awesome
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How dare you make such a mistake this is yu gi I mean poke :shrug: wait I forgotI did not forget anything I am fully aware what battle that was but way too Op. The fun used to be guessing who can beat who then the battles would keep you in suspense. Plus this chapter was shorter than tobiramas temperxd
A 5/5 is way to high for this chapter however even though you and the majority overrated this chapter I have got to tell you that is one funny animated sig you have
New knight48
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amazing chapter! Hashirama was a bad ass even as a kid lmao! I really like his personality though and how he is so noble and powerful and tells madara he doesn't wanna kill him
Lost Woods Denizen
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Hashirama was right: this world is always warring. The individuals on this forum that enjoy a chapter and the people that dislike it are constantly warring and trying to verbally one-up one another. I admit, I don't like really like seeing people complaining about the manga (though I don't mind people complaining about individual characters), but seeing as this is a discussion thread, complaints are part of discussion. I will just say, however, that no one here is the author of Naruto, and you could not make the story any better, because then it would stop being "Naruto." We as fans have biases/fantasies of what we would like to happen, but that doesn't make us editors or mangaka ourselves.
In terms of the chapter, I gave it a 4. I can appreciate people's concerns that the scale of power was ramped too high. At the same time we have to realize that these were the two strongest shinobi after the sage of the six paths. The end results of centuries of specialized breeding to preserve/augment bloodlines are Hashirama and Madara themselves. The ultimate eye techniques and the ultimate body techniques. Naturally, their techniques are on a scale beyond the regular ninja. The usage of shuriken, swords, exploding tags are made obsolete before their abilities. And I think this ties in well with Sasuke's "what are shinobi" question. Because then we ask ourselves, can these two men that are compared to gods even be considered "shinobi" anymore?
I don't advise comparing chapters and fights now to chapters and fights when the manga first came out. It is unfair to compare fights between genin, chuunin hopefuls, and jounin, to fights between the two avatars of the two concepts of the first "god of shinobi." And also, both of the main characters of this manga are the current avatars of their respective concept, and have displayed abilities accordingly. Naruto and Sasuke also forego fighting with shuriken and swords in serious fights in favor of Susanoo and Bijuu mode. It's the same concept. They are now going beyond the realm of "shinobi." Hashirama was apparently a sage, just like Naruto. His eyes changed color from black to gold, and he also gained the facial markings of a sage. That, and he said "senpou," which really leaves out any room for argument. It is not the same as Tsunade's mark, as her technique involves releasing a seal, whereas sage mode is a different form of fighting altogether.
Lastly, I was not too keen on the idea of Hashirama and Madara having met as children. Kishimoto could have used a less blatant way of showing that history is repeating itself. It's almost as if everyone within a relatively close age group knows everyone else within that group, which is absurd. But, this storyline does have some potential. I await to see where Kishimoto takes it.
In terms of the chapter, I gave it a 4. I can appreciate people's concerns that the scale of power was ramped too high. At the same time we have to realize that these were the two strongest shinobi after the sage of the six paths. The end results of centuries of specialized breeding to preserve/augment bloodlines are Hashirama and Madara themselves. The ultimate eye techniques and the ultimate body techniques. Naturally, their techniques are on a scale beyond the regular ninja. The usage of shuriken, swords, exploding tags are made obsolete before their abilities. And I think this ties in well with Sasuke's "what are shinobi" question. Because then we ask ourselves, can these two men that are compared to gods even be considered "shinobi" anymore?
I don't advise comparing chapters and fights now to chapters and fights when the manga first came out. It is unfair to compare fights between genin, chuunin hopefuls, and jounin, to fights between the two avatars of the two concepts of the first "god of shinobi." And also, both of the main characters of this manga are the current avatars of their respective concept, and have displayed abilities accordingly. Naruto and Sasuke also forego fighting with shuriken and swords in serious fights in favor of Susanoo and Bijuu mode. It's the same concept. They are now going beyond the realm of "shinobi." Hashirama was apparently a sage, just like Naruto. His eyes changed color from black to gold, and he also gained the facial markings of a sage. That, and he said "senpou," which really leaves out any room for argument. It is not the same as Tsunade's mark, as her technique involves releasing a seal, whereas sage mode is a different form of fighting altogether.
Lastly, I was not too keen on the idea of Hashirama and Madara having met as children. Kishimoto could have used a less blatant way of showing that history is repeating itself. It's almost as if everyone within a relatively close age group knows everyone else within that group, which is absurd. But, this storyline does have some potential. I await to see where Kishimoto takes it.
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