[VS] Hashirama vs 5 kage, sannin, muu, 2nd mizukage and 3rd raikage

[Kages]

Oonokis largest scaled Jinton had half of the perfect Susanoos size. :|

That dust release technique you are talking about was accomplished like this:

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In all these images, he accomplished the task through Tsunade's Chakra. Not by himself.

He wasn't talking about his own chakra alone. His chakra + Tsunade's + Third Raikage's + Sage Jiraiya's + Orochimaru's + A's + Mei Terumi's + Gaara's + Muu's + Second Mizukage's would be 10+ times bigger than that 1000 arm thing. His and Tsunade's chakra were about 1/4 of the size of that, imagine with all those others INCLUDING 3rd Raikage... Lol... Hashirama gets stomped

 

[shelke]

^ Yes, because Hashirama would stand like a third grade buffoon and would allow them to make a friendly single file line to pump Onoki's chakra, while he stands there doing nothing? You can't be serious. You do know Madara was just playing with them, right?

 

[Kages]

^ Yes, because Hashirama would stand like a third grade buffoon and would allow them to make a friendly single file line to pump Onoki's chakra, while he stands there doing nothing? You can't be serious. You do know Madara was just playing with them, right?

Lol. Tsunade and 3rd Raikage's chakra are enough. They don't need to make a line. The starting distance is 100 meteors, Hashirama can't touch them from far away Lawls. Beside Oro's Triple Rashomon would stop the technique, also, Hashirama has nothing to hurt 3rd Raikage

 

[ItachiStyle]

I give Mu and Onoki a tonne of credit, and rank them around 15 or so. I've spent time torching USSJ and others here about how good Mu is, and how he'd own Kabuto effortlessly. However, that said, the way Hashirama is being depicted makes me struggle to believe he could lose to these guys.

To people saying how great Jinton is, my reply is "if Jinton is so great, how come Mu and Onoki combined were effortlessly owned by a (not trying) Madara with only EMS?" There are counters to jinton, and limits... especially when you can overwhelm everyone on the battlefield in the opening seconds of the fight by spamming spike filled, crushing forrests, and hiding atop giant mountain sized summons, and sense your opponents coming with Sage mode, and jump huge distances to dodge attacks.

 

[Joki]

hashirama cant see mu, cant see the massive nuke being formed, and cant do anything to survive being disintegrated on an atomic level. even madara got hit by this and lost an arm but being an edo he regenerated. also 3 people on team 2 are edos. show me how hashirama can counter them

I'm going to wait until you stop ignoring the clear words on the pages instead of only being capable of blindly looking at the pictures. I know something like reading what Madara, the only guy to actually fight and get raped by Hashirama on panel tossing around dozens of casual mountain busters, is SAYING is a little hard to understand for someone such as yourself. But you can do it if you try. There's things to a manga fight other than just pictures, one day maybe you will comprehend such a thing. <3

and manga fact 10 chapters later,the kages deserved their name and nearly cornered edo madara, forcing him to use the power he used to put hashirama on the back foot and use HIS full power which is SM

Where the hell did you get that fanfiction, oh so you're telling me Edo Madara was actively fighting powerfully with Perfect Susano'o, Kurama, even the rinnegan that he TOTALLY was actively using a bunch against the kages?!

Exactly, nearly cornering a Madara who was bullshitting them using only his most fodder attacks and not trying in the slightest calling them fodder in comparison to Hashirama isn't the same thing. That's ALSO not the same thing as saying they deserve the name of hokage. Unless of course you have a panel but HAHAHAshirama says you don't, because it didn't happen.

Then he went off to completely rape them leaving them incapacitated without a scratch and didn't use anything near what he was FORCED to use WITH Kurama and STILL got destroyed by Hashirama. This:

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is a HELL of a lot different than this.

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hashirama still cant destroy mountains, not with goddamn wood. also we are only jsut now seeing what he can do. and nothign sugests he beating a jiton user and 3 edos

lol hur my name is ussj and i can only look @ picshers, i cant even use common sense to reach the conclusion that since Madara in the future is saying Hashirama raped him, current scans are showing Hashirama and Madara on the highest level battle in the entire manga, eveyrone else concludes Hashirama is the god of shinobi, a bunch of kage level hokages crap themselves by just his chakra level spike, Madara says repeatedly hashirama makes the Kages look like trash and is on a whole other level, but nope! We haven't literally specifically seen Hashirama using something on panel despite this so obviously he's genin level.

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Duurrrp

how? whats his answer for onokis jinton which resisted and destroyed hshiramas only chance of taking them out quickly which is pollen?

Being Hashirama isn't enough for you for what reason other than being in denial and a massive Hashirama hater who can't stand the fact he basically solos the rest of the Narutoverse by himself?

its all but stated in VIZ he used PS to beat them offscreen. also show me where its stated they are dead

Hah, keyword, "all BUT STATED". You know your arguments are crap when you are literally admitting yourself it wasn't even said. I know bro, I know damn well you're right and that he never used PS on them. exactly, you literally just said yourself it was all but stated.

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you think using rinnegan, meteors, forests, regular susano, magatama, genjutsu and huge katons was him being inferior?

Now you're getting it! damn right it was, meteor gets cut in half by perfect susano'o effortlessly, regular susano'o gets vaporized instantly, genjutsu gets broken instantly, huge katons are literally NOTHING compared to bijuu damas, perfect susanoo swords, kurama, don't bullshit yourself. His forests are tiny fodder compared to Hashirama's. oh, and when was he actively using all the pathso f the rinnegan. Your lack of common logic is astounding when in denial of Hashirama and SERIOUS Madara's CLEAR superiority.

he went right to relying on kurama vs hashi which probaly was his undoing.

Bullcrap. It did NOTHING but help him. The fight between 100% Kurama and the gokages wouldn't last more than a few seconds.

moreover, they werent crapped on. he went all out

OH REALLY? Please show me the panels of him doing ANYTHING close to this:

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Maybe that's a bit much, that might be overkill. I should have posted anything IMMENSELY less impressive than that, so your post wasn't completely destroyed and you had a SLIGHT chance to show me a jutsu in madara's arsenal that he USED on them that's not COMPLETE fodder! Well what about this

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Oh or.... THIS, you know, the thing that he literally was using all out ACTIVELY, at FULL POWER TRYING TO KILL, GOING FOR THE KILL against Hashirama, WITH FULL 100% KURAMA? That he didn't use in the SLIGHTEST against the Gokages and used FAR inferior jutsu? (but I'm giving you a chance to show a panel of him using 1% or more of his power compared to what he did against hashirama, but lololol we know it's not happening. as you are a Hashirama hater separated from all logic)

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, or as all out as someone whos immortal and knows it would go. i cant see him goign PS right away if he were to fight alive hashirama right now either. HOW WAS MADARA NOT SERIOUS?

HOW WAS HE NOT SERIOUS? Let me show you! In one fight, he was using a bunch of weak katon, and REGULAR SUSANOO, and was hardly using any jutsu, laughing at the fodder Gokages at how Hashirama completely shat on them and that they were a game in comparison. Then they tried a little harder and he said "Oh dear, I guess you were stronger than I thought, impressive teamwork. Now allow me to use ONE of my many completely godly jutsu that I used against Hashirama that would completely wipe out this entire battlefield".

Then he showed off one second of PS which completely destroyed 2 mountains effortlessly WITH A SINGLE SLASH. DESPITE THE FACT HE WAS ACTIVELY SPAMMING IT AGAINST HASHIRAMA, 2 BLADES, KEEPING IT OUT, DESTROYING A BUNCH OF MOUNTAINS, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING SERIOUSLY WITH IT.

Then he put it away and didn't use it again after the gokages concluded they stood literally no chance and would have been fodderized with ONE second, or ONE swing. Sure says a lot about Hashirama who despite going up against 100% Kurama and PS fighting with PS and not putting it away to use sissy .001% katons(those are reserved for fodder who aren't Hashirama lol). Then he says ON PANEL "I'm not going to use that again vs you", calls them fodder, and leaves to get Kurama while trashing them using a bunch of noob non PS techniques.

Yeah, right because Madara says he won't use it and we've been shown Madara completely raping them and apparently despite literally everything being against him using it there are NO SCANS of it, it totally happened because USSJ wants it to(as if it would change anything on account that he trashed them like the fodder they are, even without the Kurama that he NEEDED and STILL lost with to Hashirama). Ohhhh the glorious double standards.

withholding your final move doesnt mean yuornot serious.

Bullshit it doesn't, how is using a bunch of moves that are 1% of your full power and laughing at them, NOT TRYING AT ALL and HAVING ANOTHER BATTLE RIGHT HERE PROVING THAT HE CAN CASUALLY DISH OUT MOUNTAIN BUSTERS THAT HE DIDNT COME CLOSE TO USING not evidence that he wasn't serious? You'd have to be completely brainless or someone who hates Hashirama to the point where literally nothing he does will get any recognition and you're completely oblivious to anything he can do despite the fact it's damn well MANGA FACT he's god level. Oh wait.

he was serious when he dropped 2 meteors on an exhausted onoki and gaara and resorted to rinnegan to survive against a naruto clone

Hah strange, if that was what you call serious then what do you call the dozens of techs he and Hashirama are throwing back and forth that are on a completely other level and make 20 of those meteors look like shit? Is that another word, what's that word? Whatever that word is puts Madara and Hashirama above any fodder group like this one.

as seen recently, he wasnt "raping", atually heson the back foot. and madara is jsut one kage level. here hashiramas up against SEVERAL, 3 of which are immortal and have unlimited chakra and know everything about him. also bijuudamas a mountain buster when it explodes. not when its still a black ball. tell me about how hashirama seals 3 immortal invincible hokages and counters a jinton from an invisible man

It's clear you're a massive Hashirama hater tt this point, anything you say regarding Hashirama is completely delusional and irrelevant from this point, your opinion on his power is just about as relevant as a log. Even when given manga fact of him tossing jutsu back and forth that are literally>>>>>>>>>anything we've seen this par^1000 you deny it and act like a bunch of fodder "kage levels" will be able to lift a finger to his might.

It's actually sad even going to such lengths of "lol madara>hashirama still".

And here I was last chapter thinking perhaps you had went out and admitted "Alright guys, I wasn't serious, I was just in denial because Hashirama is better than my favorite characters, I know damn well he's absolute top tier and one of if not the strongest Naruto character who solos 99% of other characters single handedly. Because unlike others, I can actually read the words on the pages and conclude it's manga fact as stated by the author repeatedly and basically every character." Like the part where you actually admitted he's laughing at mountain busters and fighting on Madara's level, hmm I guess you took that back for some reason.

Either way, it's fun picking apart such flawed posts due to the fact that there's just so many flaws. Mainly on account that no one in their right mind would actually make such posts. It's not like I ACTUALLY have to respond to any of your points given how ridiculous they are and any sane man who has read the manga should realize you're completely wrong and Hashirama is on another level now.

Just a daily reminder, Hashirama craps on basically everyone since 80+ chapters ago.

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[Icelerate]

I actually agree with Joki. It is true that Hashirama is up against 10 kage levels but quality>>>>>>>>>>quantity. If 10 part 1 Sakura level ninjas ganged up on someone like Kakashi, just because Kakashi is outnumbered doesn't mean he doesn't stomp.

The 25 susanoo clones troubled the kages greatly and they weren't even that impressive. If those susanoo clones were on the same level as Sasuke/Itachi susanoo with amaterasu, enton, legendary weapons, etc. then maybe these guys have a chance. Not to mention that once Madara casually sliced apart two mountains, the Gokage felt terrified. Madara has been using multiple of those slashes as well bijuu damas and other stuff on a much higher level than what he used on the Gokage. Adding a few more kage levels wouldn't even the odds at this point. It is quite clear these two are far stronger than multiple kage level ninjas.

Saying all this, by hype Orochimaru's edos can even the odds so by no means is this fight a one sided stomp. Depending on how powerful the other legendary Hokage are, they could still take the battle. I'll go with them but there would be many casualties so kages win with extreme difficulty but without hype, Hashirama stomps.

 

[GiantShuriken]

Mizukage hits him with genjutsu, then the 3rd Lariats his head off.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

ShinshuuSenju, Mokuton Forest, Flower technique, Mokuton clones, Wood Dragon, Goju Rashoumon, Hotei No Jutsu? What are you people on drugs on something? Team two gets fodderized before Madara and Hashirama. The latest chapter should prove this.

mu sneaks up and stabs hashirama through the brain

Only RikudoSage>Hashirama

and kabuto, and obito, and edo madara and oro with edo hokages and mu

Yes, because Hashirama would stand like a third grade buffoon and would allow them to make a friendly single file line to pump Onoki's chakra, while he stands there doing nothing? You

yes because he will be trying to take on immortal hokages

To people saying how great Jinton is, my reply is "if Jinton is so great, how come Mu and Onoki combined were effortlessly owned by a (not trying) Madara with only EMS?" There are counters to jinton, and limits...

there are no counters. its extremely likely mu had not created it at that point in time. madara seemed to not know what it is, but 2nd mizu DID. and he didnt remember mu.

especially when you can overwhelm everyone on the battlefield in the opening seconds of the fight by spamming spike filled, crushing forrests, and hiding atop giant mountain sized summons, and sense your opponents coming with Sage mode, and jump huge distances to dodge attacks.

he wont do that because he will be stabbed in the face by invisible mu before he does any of that

Where the hell did you get that fanfiction, oh so you're telling me Edo Madara was actively fighting powerfully with Perfect Susano'o, Kurama, even the rinnegan that he TOTALLY was actively using a bunch against the kages?!

yes. he used susano and rinnegan alot. and he tried to summon kurama but COULDNT. why would he even want to if they are such flies?

Then he went off to completely rape them leaving them incapacitated without a scratch and didn't use anything near what he was FORCED to use WITH Kurama and STILL got destroyed by Hashirama

actually hashiramas done no real damage to him so far. we dont know why or how he won. and do you want to know hes without a scratch? because hes an immortal zombie who has been wounded at least twice and had to regenerate

Exactly, nearly cornering a Madara who was bullshitting them using only his most fodder attacks and not trying in the slightest calling them fodder in comparison to Hashirama

he was going all out and trying to kill them. he had so many moves he was willing to try them all out while feeling safe in his immortality. and he wasnt calling them fodder when thye were blowing his arm off

since Madara in the future is saying Hashirama raped him

where?

current scans are showing Hashirama and Madara on the highest level battle in the entire manga, eveyrone else concludes Hashirama is the god of shinobi, a bunch of kage level hokages crap themselves by just his chakra level spike

obito madara juubi vs naruto, bee is the highest level battle in the manga. rinnegan, ten tails, two perfect jins, nothing compares to that. also VIZ makes it clear hashirama is A god, not THE god. THE god is the sage of six paths.

Madara says repeatedly hashirama makes the Kages look like trash and is on a whole other leve

and nothing suggests to me he has a counter for jinton whereas madara did. you keep braying about statements without actual factual evidence he'd survive being disintegrated by an invisible kage. also madara immediately said tsunade wasnt as weak as he thought one chapter after he said this.

who can't stand the fact he basically solos the rest of the Narutoverse by himself?

i dont need to stand it when it cannot happen

Now you're getting it! damn right it was, meteor gets cut in half by perfect susano'o effortlessly, regular susano'o gets vaporized instantly, genjutsu gets broken instantly, huge katons are literally NOTHING compared to bijuu damas, perfect susanoo swords, kurama, don't bullshit yourself

its still him going all out if he has to go to his final eye stage. he would have stayed in 3 tomoe sharingan if the kages arent anything.

Hah, keyword, "all BUT STATED". You know your arguments are crap when you are literally admitting yourself it wasn't even said

its implied. he said it was embarrasing for him tohave to pull out PS twice but the scene cut off before he could say he was in fact, going to

His forests are tiny fodder compared to Hashirama's.

his forests are more than enough when spammed by an immortal. in a few secs he can cover a country in forests if he felt like it

Bullcrap. It did NOTHING but help him.

it got wrapped up and supressed at some point. all hes really been using it for is bijuudams. which hashirama is BARELY managing to change the trajectory of.

oh, and when was he actively using all the pathso f the rinnegan

he used preta in 560. if hes so superior to them, why?

? Let me show you! In one fight, he was using a bunch of weak katon, and REGULAR SUSANOO, and was hardly using any jutsu, laughing at the fodder Gokages at how Hashirama completely shat on them and that they were a game in comparison.

in one fight he went all out and uysed all his most powerful moves till he had NO CHOICE but to resort to PS. giant forests, meteors, regular susano, 25 moku susano clones, rinnegan. none of this is "hardly using any jutsu" and neevr did he laugh at them considering he was praising their lava style, regeneration and saying they deserved to be kages. but i guess you ignored the entire fight post 575

Then he showed off one second of PS which completely destroyed 2 mountains effortlessly WITH A SINGLE SLASH. DESPITE THE FACT HE WAS ACTIVELY SPAMMING IT AGAINST HASHIRAMA, 2 BLADES, KEEPING IT OUT, DESTROYING A BUNCH OF MOUNTAINS, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING SERIOUSLY WITH IT.

a susano thats stablised and much stronger/taller than the still incomplete one used on hashirama.

Then he put it away and didn't use it again after the gokages concluded they stood literally no chance and would have been fodderized with ONE second

probably because they had been fighting for hours vs someone who will never tire or die no matter what they do apart from sealing him. hashirama would be in the same boat if it was him

Sure says a lot about Hashirama who despite going up against 100% Kurama and PS fighting with PS and not putting it away to use sissy .001% katons(those are reserved for fodder who aren't Hashirama lol). Then he says ON PANEL "I'm not going to use that again vs you",

its implied he would and did. only reason he felt like he shouldnt is because your supposed to die against it, not see it twice. its insulting PS's legend for someone to get past it. and kages will get past it as they will survive this thanks to tsunade. so in the end the fact he was forced to resort to it at all was acknowledging they were of a sufficent closeness to hashi's level

Yeah, right because Madara says he won't use it and we've been shown Madara completely raping them and apparently despite literally everything being against him using it there are NO SCANS of it, it totally happened because USSJ wants it to(as if it would change anything on account that he trashed them like the fodder they are, even without the Kurama that he NEEDED and STILL lost with to Hashirama). Ohhhh the glorious double standards.

he didnt completely rape them. he used everything in his arsenal and still lost an arm twice. he relied on his infinite stamina and immortality to beat them. he shouldnt have needed PS considering he was of a level so far above that of his prime thanks to mokuton and rinnegan and immortality. and he didnt compleltely rape them considering the fight dragged on to 9pm despite starting in the afternoon. obviously they kept the fight fun for him for quite a while

Hashirama craps on basically everyone since 80+ chapters ago.

hashirama hadnt done anything till 2 chapters ago

Bullshit it doesn't, how is using a bunch of moves that are 1% of your full power and laughing at them

he used 99%. how is rinnegan 1%? how is flower tree world 1%? how is meteors 1%? how was he laughing at them when he got his arm blown off and got himself nearly sealed?

as if it would change anything on account that he trashed them like the fodder they are,

and yet they are kages. he didnt trash them, he went all out and barely won despite his immortality and infinite chakra. they are literally as far from fodder as anyone can possibly get

ne of if not the strongest Naruto character who solos 99% of other characters single handedly. Because

mu is in that 1%. same with immortal infinite chakra hokages

even without the Kurama that he NEEDED and STILL lost with to Hashirama).

scans of him losing please. wait we know nothing about that or why. also rinnegan/mokuton > kurama

Hah strange, if that was what you call serious then what do you call the dozens of techs he and Hashirama are throwing back and forth that are on a completely other level and make 20 of those meteors look like shit

hah strange. because madaras not using anything we havent already seen him do. and none of its on a level where itd mean ems madara would beat edo cos he cant

, NOT TRYING AT ALL and HAVING ANOTHER BATTLE RIGHT HERE PROVING THAT HE CAN CASUALLY DISH OUT MOUNTAIN BUSTERS THAT HE DIDNT COME CLOSE TO USING

how was he not trying when he went all outy and nearly lost several times despite being immortal?

Like the part where you actually admitted he's laughing at mountain busters and fighting on Madara's level, hmm I guess you took that back for some reason.

he did that but it doesnt mean he can beat people who can kill him like edo madara and mu

Because unlike others, I can actually read the words on the pages and conclude it's manga fact as stated by the author repeatedly and basically every character

exactly. i do exactly that. the problem is the author hasnt said anything and characters are fallible/not omniscient.

any sane man who has read the manga should realize you're completely wrong and Hashirama is on another level now.

any sane man knows hashirama cant survive being atomised

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Not to mention that once Madara casually sliced apart two mountains, the Gokage felt terrified

they were out of chakra. its no wonder

I'll go with them but there would be many casualties so kages win with extreme difficulty but without hype, Hashirama stomps.

hashirama is disintegrated by mu in seconds

Madara has been using multiple of those slashes as well bijuu damas and other stuff on a much higher level than what he used on the Gokage.

if he was on that high a level why was he using his most powerful eye stage? surely 3 tomoe madara solos. but he couldnt and didnt

 

[ItachiStyle]

I give Mu and Onoki a tonne of credit, and rank them around 15 or so. I've spent time torching USSJ and others here about how good Mu is, and how he'd own Kabuto effortlessly. However, that said, the way Hashirama is being depicted makes me struggle to believe he could lose to these guys.

To people saying how great Jinton is, my reply is "if Jinton is so great, how come Mu and Onoki combined were effortlessly owned by a (not trying) Madara with only EMS?" There are counters to jinton, and limits... especially when you can overwhelm everyone on the battlefield in the opening seconds of the fight by spamming spike filled, crushing forrests, and hiding atop giant mountain sized summons, and sense your opponents coming with Sage mode, and jump huge distances to dodge attacks.

Think you missed this. Like I say, I've spent many threads torching people here (you particularly USSJ) about how good Muu and the 2nd Mizukage are... I had the 2nd Mizukage over a literal army of good foes. So my record on rating these guys is very solid. But your scenarios are just ridiculous, and you ignore the clear power scale difference between the two.

 

[Jin Kurosaki]

Whoa hard to say..

 

[Joki]

yes. he used susano and rinnegan alot. and he tried to summon kurama but COULDNT. why would he even want to if they are such flies?

Oh really? I'd love to see all those scans of even 100 regular Susano'os being anywhere near even 5% of Perfect Susano'os power. Or maybe something that puts the very few rinnegan techs he actually used(again, I said where did you get this fanfiction from, saying he used it a lot when he used it like twice doesn't help you prove its canoninity) somewhere close to the level of massive explosions getting casually sent back and forth in the god level battle quote and I quote "on another scale" of the puny Gokage match?

They didn't actually fight yet, in fact the Gokages weren't even near the battlefield when he attempted to summon Kurama. More proof you should l2read

actually hashiramas done no real damage to him so far. we dont know why or how he won. and do you want to know hes without a scratch? because hes an immortal zombie who has been wounded at least twice and had to regenerate

You said so yourself, jinton broke his arm. If they got past Susano'o and got any hit on him there's no technique that wouldn't one shot Madara's real body. He never got scratched by them if he had been scratched in the slightest he would have been sealed, but it didn't happen because Madara trashed them. And guess what! I can claim Madara summoned a flying godly unicorn that smite the Gokages and instantly destroyed them with a rainbow beam from the heavens, and that's just as damn valid as you trying to claim Madara clearly was GOING ALL OUT AT HIS FULLEST and utilizing Perfect Susano'o vs them and using rinnegan "a lot" off panel? Haha nice try but no, he called them fodder and destroyed them like fodder without using any of those techniques at all.

he was going all out and trying to kill them. he had so many moves he was willing to try them all out while feeling safe in his immortality. and he wasnt calling them fodder when thye were blowing his arm off

What the hell are you even talking about, see above, look at literally EVERY SINGLE SCAN, tell me what part about the gokage fight is "going all out"? Those Madara's are pussies compared to the one that fought Hashirama, did they seriously even graduate Academy school, maybe when Madara was brought back he lost 99% of his most powerful jutsu and lost 95% of his chakra, maybe then it'd equal "going all out" on the gokages.

Delusional USSJ, unable to actually pay attention to what's happening on the scans, it's not doing well proving you right.
where?

obito madara juubi vs naruto, bee is the highest level battle in the manga. rinnegan, ten tails, two perfect jins, nothing compares to that. also VIZ makes it clear hashirama is A god, not THE god. THE god is the sage of six paths.

Cool I enjoy the jutsu you posted that was even remotely on the scale of Hashirama's sage jutsu.

and nothing suggests to me he has a counter for jinton whereas madara did. you keep braying about statements without actual factual evidence he'd survive being disintegrated by an invisible kage. also madara immediately said tsunade wasnt as weak as he thought one chapter after he said this.

And you know what he did the VERY NEXT CHAPTER? Completely destroyed them without a scratch, without using PS in the slightest and proceeded to walk away and go deal with business elsewhere as they weren't good enough for his presence. I want a scan of him "going all out" because unless you're retarded what Kishi "implies" is obvious, it's not even implication it is literally straight up said they are on another level.

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i dont need to stand it when it cannot happen

Cannot happen based on your non canonical ridiculous fanfictions where a mid kage level somehow craps on a literal god level beast who made 3 of the other hokages crap themselves and start crumbling the entire foundation around them by increasing his chakra? Also did I mention casually breaking free of a senju cell enhanced ET and do whatever he wants because he's Hashirama, despite the fact not even someone like Nagato could even HOPE of breaking out of the far inferior ET?

its still him going all out if he has to go to his final eye stage. he would have stayed in 3 tomoe sharingan if the kages arent anything.

As a good man once said, I guess EMS Sasuke barely beat the Zetsus with extreme diff because he clearly had to go all out and use EMS against them.

its implied. he said it was embarrasing for him tohave to pull out PS twice but the scene cut off before he could say he was in fact, going to

I enjoy the scan you posted that actually proves that!
Cool story, way to ignore the scans as usual, as you literally acknowledged none of them

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his forests are more than enough when spammed by an immortal. in a few secs he can cover a country in forests if he felt like it

OH THE DOUBLE STANDARDS!

it got wrapped up and supressed at some point. all hes really been using it for is bijuudams. which hashirama is BARELY managing to change the trajectory of.

And how does getting suppressed(AKA being made Hashirama's bitch) after some point in the long battle mean it hindered Madara in any way when clearly it increases his power massively, oh yeah it didn't, because you're wrong, but what else is new.

he used preta in 560. if hes so superior to them, why?

Because he had been chilling not using any techniques that he could have in the Hashirama fight such as perfect susano'o cloaked Kurama, dual swords that rip mountains apart with each casual slash that he is REPEATEDLY USING AGAINST HASHIRAMA, ONE OF THEM SOLOS GOKAGES, MANGA FACT

Plenty of options here, USSJ "Unable To Acknowledge Any Scans Involving Hashirama Because I Hate Him And Think Someone Like Muu Can Beat Him In Second Lol Wtf" Future Trunks clearly doesn't understand that though.

in one fight he went all out and uysed all his most powerful moves till he had NO CHOICE but to resort to PS. giant forests, meteors, regular susano, 25 moku susano clones, rinnegan. none of this is "hardly using any jutsu" and neevr did he laugh at them considering he was praising their lava style, regeneration and saying they deserved to be kages. but i guess you ignored the entire fight post 575

I already replied to this crap. It's literally dead wrong, it doesn't even need to be addressed it's like calling Naruto's hair blue, you can claim or believe something that retarded all you want but anyone worht their salt will know the obvious truth here, which is LolUSSJ we all know your feelings for Hashirama.

meteor gets cut in half by perfect susano'o effortlessly, regular susano'o gets vaporized instantly, genjutsu gets broken instantly, huge katons are literally NOTHING compared to bijuu damas, perfect susanoo swords, kurama, don't bullshit yourself. His forests are tiny fodder compared to Hashirama's. oh, and when was he actively using all the pathso f the rinnegan. Your lack of common logic is astounding when in denial of Hashirama and SERIOUS Madara's CLEAR superiority.

In one fight, he was using a bunch of weak katon, and REGULAR SUSANOO, and was hardly using any jutsu, laughing at the fodder Gokages at how Hashirama completely shat on them and that they were a game in comparison. Then they tried a little harder and he said "Oh dear, I guess you were stronger than I thought, impressive teamwork. Now allow me to use ONE of my many completely godly jutsu that I used against Hashirama that would completely wipe out this entire battlefield".

Then he showed off one second of PS which completely destroyed 2 mountains effortlessly WITH A SINGLE SLASH. DESPITE THE FACT HE WAS ACTIVELY SPAMMING IT AGAINST HASHIRAMA, 2 BLADES, KEEPING IT OUT, DESTROYING A BUNCH OF MOUNTAINS, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING SERIOUSLY WITH IT.

Then he put it away and didn't use it again after the gokages concluded they stood literally no chance and would have been fodderized with ONE second, or ONE swing. Sure says a lot about Hashirama who despite going up against 100% Kurama and PS fighting with PS and not putting it away to use sissy .001% katons(those are reserved for fodder who aren't Hashirama lol). Then he says ON PANEL "I'm not going to use that again vs you", calls them fodder, and leaves to get Kurama while trashing them using a bunch of noob non PS techniques.

a susano thats stablised and much stronger/taller than the still incomplete one used on hashirama.

Tell me more about said "INCOMPLETE" Susano'o that replicated the shit it pulled vs the Gokages by a dozen? Did you seriously just say the perfect susano'o Madara pulled out against the gokages was SUPERIOR to the one he used against Hashirama? Let's count:
Madara vs Gokages: 1 blade, slashed ONCE with it, ripped apart 2 mountains(was never used again, madara used far weaker jutsu after this poin
Madara vs Hashirama: 2 Blades, Kurama cloaked, slashing away ripping apart 10+ mountains and shooting off bijuu damas

I was going to reply to the rest of your post but LOL. Can't believe you actually just went this far but I shouldn't be surprised, you've said other crap like this but it proves you're completely BSing and are as usual massively downplaying Hashi. Basically everything you say regarding Hashi is always 100% wrong and just downplaying him because you can't stand his massive strength.

You should learn to accept Hashirama, you're going to have a bad time trying to claim Mu can solo Hashirama in a few seconds or Kakashi snipes him with Kamui before he can do anything, you must not be able to handle the wood it's ok, his wood's too much for a lot of people.

I noticed you erased 90% of the points you couldn't counter from my post, if you're gonna do that then I sure as hell have this right. counter the rest of my points if you want a reply. But you won't, because you can't, because as usual you're 99% wrong. Screw this, I didn't even read the rest of your post I'm done.

 

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orochimaru doesnt have edo tensei