Why is everyone underestimating the other Hokage?

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Hashirama wanking is so strong on this site it's unbelievable.
Seen threads like Hashirama vs 5kage, Sannin, 3rd raikage, muu and the second mizukage and expecting it to be some what a fair fight.

Or even saying that hashirama is on the Sages level (without the juubi), or that he can defeated the juubi on his own.
Hiruzen wanking and Hashirama hating are even more elite on this site. You know it don't you Exaar ;p
 

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I agree o.p. all the kage were great ibm their own way. hashi used overwhelming power.minato used overwhelming speed.
 

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FIghitng is always won by the stronger opponent.... o_O.

Bleach, Naruto, DBZ, One piece.. all the same.

I wish I could neg rep you again. You will always see and believe what your fanboyism encourages you to.

If what you stated is always the case, then how did Sage Naruto defeat God Mode in the end? How did an old and humiliated Hiruzen defeat Orochimaru and his Hokage puppets? How was Minato able to take on Obito and the Kyuubi by himself and still come out on top? How was Naruto able to defeat the 3rd Raikage? Intellect and Technique is how!

I don't even know why I waste my time replying to you.......>_>
 
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Hiruzen wanking and Hashirama hating are even more elite on this site. You know it don't you Exaar ;p

There are hardly any "hiruzen" fanboys on this site.

I aint seeing no Hiruzen vs 5kage + Sannin + other kages and expecting him to win, I aint seeing no Hiruzen = Base sage or > Juubi threads.

Hiruzen is rarely overrated to that level.
 

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man imo i like them. but hands down to me not cause he is strong its just plain simple i am a water ***** when i comes to styles even in pokemon so tobirama is my favorite cause of how he looks what he about and his water style moves so it to me tobirama senju will forever be my favorite he even dress cool and i wish they would talk more about him im sick of everyone getting the manga time but tobirama he needs more to see just how cool and strong he really is and out of the other villages my favorite kage comes down to Mei Terum he has water fire style i think earth as well not sure so other people like kages for their personal reasons believe me people like naruto cause its nothing like dbz besides Masashi Kishimoto being a fan of dbz but still nothing i dont care how similar things are there are still bigger different stuff
 

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Great theory a bit long but most people here are right why use strategy when you have a monster you can use to wipe out the enemy
 

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Read thru all your txt.
1. Kagebunshin is not forbidden.
2. Fukasako meant that naruto surpassed all before him who tried to master sage mode.
3. Yamato meant naruto's speed.
4. Yeah hiruzen is amazing.
5. Yes, so is minato.
6. But Is your point being hiruzen or minato greater than hashirama? Then show us how those two will manage EMS madara + complete susanoo + the kyubi.
 

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Anyone who thinks Hiruzen, Minato, Tobirama.. with their shown feats and Hype.. have a chance against Hashirama.. are overrating them.

Maaan, didnt hiruzen handle hashi and tobi at the age of 70? I know they werent at full power but even if they were both at half, thats strong, add oro and its safe to assume hiruzen in his PRIME has a chance.

if it was an arm wrestle and the only important attribute is strength then ok but its a fight and intelligence beats strength when strength isnt intelligent. thats why i can pick itachi or minato against almost anyone because they are more intelligent than most, not sayin they would win or that hashi is unintelligent but my point is raw power alone doesnt determine the winner.
 

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I wish I could neg rep you again. You will always see and believe what your fanboyism encourages you to.

If what you stated is always the case, then how did Sage Naruto defeat God Mode in the end? How did an old and humiliated Hiruzen defeat Orochimaru and his Hokage puppets? How was Minato able to take on Obito and the Kyuubi by himself and still come out on top? How was Naruto able to defeat the 3rd Raikage? Intellect and Technique is how!

I don't even know why I waste my time replying to you.......>_>
1. Who the hell is God mode? Definitely not some cripple who had use dead bodies..
2. Hiruzend died.. he never defeated anyone. If you had paid attention.
3. Minato had the whole village helping.. again if you had paid attention
4. Naruto defeated a Edo. Who was being controlled. and had a army behind him
5. Intellect and Technique don't matter if you don't have the power.

There are hardly any "hiruzen" fanboys on this site.

I aint seeing no Hiruzen vs 5kage + Sannin + other kages and expecting him to win, I aint seeing no Hiruzen = Base sage or > Juubi threads.

Hiruzen is rarely overrated to that level.

Must be a joke. All the Hiruzen wankers stopped when Hashirama got hyped up.

Hiruzen has no reason to be overrated.. that is the point.

Hashirama = Base sage.. is actually sensible.. its only not sensible to people keep on denying that Hashirama's powers were superior to that of tailed beasts. Hell in fact the Juubi is being controlled with Mokuton...

Hashirama > all the 9 tailed beasts. He was about to Solo Kyuubi dude...

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Maaan, didnt hiruzen handle hashi and tobi at the age of 70? I know they werent at full power but even if they were both at half, thats strong, add oro and its safe to assume hiruzen in his PRIME has a chance.

if it was an arm wrestle and the only important attribute is strength then ok but its a fight and intelligence beats strength when strength isnt intelligent. thats why i can pick itachi or minato against almost anyone because they are more intelligent than most, not sayin they would win or that hashi is unintelligent but my point is raw power alone doesnt determine the winner.

All i recall is Oro toying with Hiruzen , and waiting for Hiruzen to him the jutsu that Hiruzen was talking about.. =]


And Tobirama and Hashirama are undoubtedly one of the smartest people of naruto-verse.
 
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FIghitng is always won by the stronger opponent
wrong... A-B-C logic doesn't work in Naruto
for example Chiyo and Sakura could beat Sasori because they were medics which made Sasori's most dangerous weapon (poison) useless but there are shinobis who would lose to Sasori but win against Sakura effortlessly
Itachi could beat Orochimaru because mental attacks (genjutsu + sealing) are incredibly useful against an opponent who has defense against almost every physical attacks (regenerating himself without seals, blocking a bijuudama without hands) but against a suiton user who is immune to genjutsu Orochimaru has a higher chance than Itachi but Itachi still wins against Oro
 

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man imo i like them. but hands down to me not cause he is strong its just plain simple i am a water ***** when i comes to styles even in pokemon so tobirama is my favorite cause of how he looks what he about and his water style moves so it to me tobirama senju will forever be my favorite he even dress cool and i wish they would talk more about him im sick of everyone getting the manga time but tobirama he needs more to see just how cool and strong he really is and out of the other villages my favorite kage comes down to Mei Terum he has water fire style i think earth as well not sure so other people like kages for their personal reasons believe me people like naruto cause its nothing like dbz besides Masashi Kishimoto being a fan of dbz but still nothing i dont care how similar things are there are still bigger different stuff

tobirama is a douche
 

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wrong... A-B-C logic doesn't work in Naruto
for example Chiyo and Sakura could beat Sasori because they were medics which made Sasori's most dangerous weapon (poison) useless but there are shinobis who would lose to Sasori but win against Sakura effortlessly
Itachi could beat Orochimaru because mental attacks (genjutsu + sealing) are incredibly useful against an opponent who has defense against almost every physical attacks (regenerating himself without seals, blocking a bijuudama without hands) but against a suiton user who is immune to genjutsu Orochimaru has a higher chance than Itachi but Itachi still wins against Oro

your reading the wrong manga.. if you think A > B > C doesn't work in Naruto.
 

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Hiruzen and Hashirama are the strongest.
 

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1. Who the hell is God mode? Definitely not some cripple who had use dead bodies..
2. Hiruzend died.. he never defeated anyone. If you had paid attention.
3. Minato had the whole village helping.. again if you had paid attention
4. Naruto defeated a Edo. Who was being controlled. and had a army behind him
5. Intellect and Technique don't matter if you don't have the power.

Ok.......... if it wasn't before, it's definitely official now, you will always be biased and say outrageous things in a desperate attempt to convince yourself of something when you feel like the argument is lost from you. Whatever......

And did you really just call God Mode "just a dead body'"? That's pretty bad, even for you.

I'm not even gonna open your posts anymore, stay blocked and stay hidden from me.
 
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