Rikudou Sennin Is Definitely An Uzumaki

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It's scary how much this makes sense.
 

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Since the Senju Ancestor and the Uzumakis share their common beliefs of goodness and peace, they remained as allies throughout the centuries, while the Uzumaki's other branch relative: The Uchihas believed in the antithesis of love and peace which is war and hatred, they were still related by blood, but not by beliefs: hence they claim only the Senjus as their common relatives and not the Uchihas. Since warring clans already existed prior to the founding of Shinobi villages, it's possible that the Sage also belonged to a clan, a clan that specializes in sealing jutsus: The Uzumaki Clan.

Great theory, i really like this part ^ :D it counters all the rebuttals saying that the sage was not a part of the uzumaki clan ;)
 

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NO NO NO NO NO.
NONONONONO.
NO.
If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

Like I said, the Rinnegan was exclusive only to the Sage, not to his parental family or clan, therefore it is only logical that the Sage's personal genetic
material was passed down to his two sons, not to his Clan. Therefore only the unification of the blood between his two sons had the power to awaken it :)
 

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He's saying uzumaki's where not known for their chakra quantity!

He was saying it's vague. They are known better for the force of their chakra rather than quantity.
 

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Maybe because the Rinnegan didn't came from the Sage?

Stated that the Sage had both the blood and the powers of the Uchiha/Senju. What were the Uchiha's powers revolved around? The sharingan.

What does Uchiha + Senju equate to? The rinnegan, as shown in Madara's case. And they did live for extremely long, so why didn't anybody except the SO6P and Madara awaken the rinnegan?
 

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He's saying uzumaki's where not known for their chakra quantity!

I was not saying that, someone brought up the Uzumaki's inherited the Uchiha's chakra and I was merely pointing out that Senju's are more known for having huge amounts of chakra than the Uchiha.

read my comment right before you respond as your last few post have nothing to do with what I was talking about.
 

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Stated that the Sage had both the blood and the powers of the Uchiha/Senju. What were the Uchiha's powers revolved around? The sharingan.

What does Uchiha + Senju equate to? The rinnegan, as shown in Madara's case. And they did live for extremely long, so why didn't anybody except the SO6P and Madara awaken the rinnegan?

Like I said in my previous post, the Rinnegan was exclusively and originally the Sage's power, it does not belong to his clan or family, it is only logical to assume that genetic inheritance from the original genetic material of the Sage would enable the awakening of the Rinnegan, through his two sons, not from his other family members.
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I was not saying that, someone brought up the Uzumaki's inherited the Uchiha's chakra and I was merely pointing out that Senju's are more known for having huge amounts of chakra than the Uchiha.

read my comment right before you respond as your last few post have nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Oh my bad! Sorry!
Its midnight,am sleepy that's why!
 

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Stated that the Sage had both the blood and the powers of the Uchiha/Senju. What were the Uchiha's powers revolved around? The sharingan.

What does Uchiha + Senju equate to? The rinnegan, as shown in Madara's case. And they did live for extremely long, so why didn't anybody except the SO6P and Madara awaken the rinnegan?

Yes but neither Uchiha nor Senju have powerful sealing techniques, which the Sage had.
That could pretty much be gained by the Sage after sealing the Juubi inside him.
And as we see, the Juubi had the eye.
I am quite sure that the Sage was an Uzumaki that gained all those powers given the Juubi.
Look at Naruto. How his eyes transform, what powers he got, so on and so forth.
That can also be applicable to the Sage.
 

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Yes but neither Uchiha nor Senju have powerful sealing techniques, which the Sage had.
That could pretty much be gained by the Sage after sealing the Juubi inside him.
And as we see, the Juubi had the eye.
I am quite sure that the Sage was an Uzumaki that gained all those powers given the Juubi.
Look at Naruto. How his eyes transform, what powers he got, so on and so forth.
That can also be applicable to the Sage.

Nicely said!
 

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NO NO NO NO NO.
NONONONONO.
NO.
If Uzumaki truly had the powers and blood of both Uchiha and the Senju, then explain why they lack dojutsu? More specifically, why do they lack the rinnegan?

The Rinnegan is exclusively the Sage's, given that he had a parental family or clan, it does not follow that they would also awaken the Rinnegan, only through his two offsprings: The Elder and Younger Son, is it possible to awaken their father's eyes: The Rinnegan.
 
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Oh my bad! Sorry!
Its midnight,am sleepy that's why!

lol, no prob, I thought you were going into illiterate fanboy mode on me... thought I was gonna have to getcha, lol
 

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Re: Rikudou and Uzumaki: Sealing Jutsus

Can someone tell me why kushina has an ability synonymous to Gedo chakra chains?
 

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The Rinnegan is exclusively the Sage's, given that he had a parental family or clan, it does not follow that they would also awaken the Rinnegan, only through his two offsprings: The Elder and Younger Son, is it possible to awaken their father's eyes: The Rinnegan.

Could be what you say, could be what I say.
In the end, many many things point at the fact that the Sage was an Uzumaki.
I mean, hell, the hero of this manga is an Uzumaki, of course the most bad-ass shinobi would be related to him.
It's like "duuh", you know?

Can someone tell me why kushina has an ability synonymous to Gedo chakra chains?

Gedo chakra chains?! Hmm... can't remember that part well. A link with an example?
That would help a lot ^^
 

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Nice theory!
 

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lol, no prob, I thought you were going into illiterate fanboy mode on me... thought I was gonna have to getcha, lol

Uh! Am am glad someone thinks so highly of me.
 

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Could be what you say, could be what I say.
In the end, many many things point at the fact that the Sage was an Uzumaki.
I mean, hell, the hero of this manga is an Uzumaki, of course the most bad-ass shinobi would be related to him.
It's like "duuh", you know?



Gedo chakra chains?! Hmm... can't remember that part well. A link with an example?
That would help a lot ^^

I was just answering Omnipotent's inquiry, he asked if the Uzumakis had both Senju and Uchiha DNA, then why didn't they awaken the Rinnegan? my answer is because the Rinnegan is exclusively the Sage's, so it only naturally follows by the law of genetic inheritance, that his direct relatives The Uchiha and Senju Ancestors, had the potential to awaken it. :)
 

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Could be what you say, could be what I say.
In the end, many many things point at the fact that the Sage was an Uzumaki.
I mean, hell, the hero of this manga is an Uzumaki, of course the most bad-ass shinobi would be related to him.
It's like "duuh", you know?



Gedo chakra chains?! Hmm... can't remember that part well. A link with an example?
That would help a lot ^^

Am very sorry,too tired.its midnight!
Kushina used one against kurama
Obito used it againt four tails(son goku) and againts naruto while freeing Son goku.that's before he attained BM
 

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I was just answering Omnipotent's inquiry, he asked if the Uzumakis had both Senju and Uchiha DNA, then why didn't they awaken the Rinnegan? my answer is because the Rinnegan is exclusively the Sage's, so it only naturally follows by the law of genetic inheritance, that his direct relatives The Uchiha and Senju Ancestors, had the potential to awaken it. :)

I know, that's why I said that it can be either of the variants.

Am very sorry,too tired.its midnight!
Kushina used one against kurama
Obito used it againt four tails(son goku) and againts naruto while freeing Son goku.that's before he attained BM

Aaah, back then! Hmm, let me check.
But my opinion is that it is a sealing jutsu performed basically by Uzumakis, however, nothing says that others can't do it as well.Same as with Death God. So yes, it is basically an Uzumaki sealing, however Obito would know how to use it also.
 
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Yes but neither Uchiha nor Senju have powerful sealing techniques, which the Sage had.
That could pretty much be gained by the Sage after sealing the Juubi inside him.
And as we see, the Juubi had the eye.
I am quite sure that the Sage was an Uzumaki that gained all those powers given the Juubi.
Look at Naruto. How his eyes transform, what powers he got, so on and so forth.
That can also be applicable to the Sage.

So you're saying that becoming the Juubi's jinchuuriki altered his DNA somehow?
Naruto doesn't have a dojutsu, though.

Yes, the Uzumaki excelled in sealing, and had exceptionally long lives as well as an impressive recovery power.

But can you really compare them to the Sage of the Six Paths, who sealed all of the Juubi into himself? Even the Yondaime Hokage was overwhelmed by half of but a fraction of the Juubi's power. The only explanation for the Sage's power would be for the two strongest (and mainstream) clans together.
 
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