Hashirama >> Nagato?

[Naruto9001]

Now we all know Hashirama was able to break Orochimaru's restraint something that non of Kabuto's edos were able to do even Nagato who's the strongest edo that Kabuto was controlling and lets not forget Kabuto dosen't even have senju dna he was using Orochimaru's dna to control them and Hashirama's not even at full power! So that means Hashirama is much stronger than even a rinnegan user?

 

[mun]

obviously.

 

[Danxen]

this kind of post make's me think many people are really dumb.

 

[Kyoto Samurai]

he always has been....

 

[portgas d luffy]

itachi was the strongest at that moment

 

[Naruto9001]

obviously.

Not really before this chapter it was debatable wheither Hashirama could take on a rinnegan user but after reading this chapter any doubt I had about his power has faded away.

this kind of post make's me think many people are really dumb.

Yeah because someone disagrees with you that makes them dumb, why does everyone on here have to be a butt?

 

[Troyg39]

Not quite. Madara broke out of the Edo tensei. And Nagato's will was taken away before he had a chance reach full power. And there are 3 Rinnegan users, Madara, So6p and Nagato. I definately think Hashi is stronger than Nagato, but since we don't know the sages power and Madara didn't have Rinnegan when he fought Hashi so we don't know who would win now. So saying that Hashi is stronger than a Rinnegan user is far fetched

 

[mun]

Not really before this chapter it was debatable wheither Hashirama could take on a rinnegan user but after reading this chapter any doubt I had about his power has faded away.



Yeah because someone disagrees with you that makes them dumb, why does everyone on here have to be a butt?

actually smart people who read the manga correctly, would've known 50 chapters ago that hashi is stronger than nagato. It was never debatable.

yeah, you are dumb if you disagree cause facts were already given in the manga and somehow your opinion is fked, its like me saying sakura is stronger than hashi you see how dumb that is?

 

[Naruto9001]

actually smart people who read the manga correctly, would've known 50 chapters ago that hashi is stronger than nagato. It was never debatable.

yeah, you are dumb if you disagree cause facts were already given in the manga and somehow your opinion is fked, its like me saying sakura is stronger than hashi you see how dumb that is?

The fight was never shown. Hashirama's hype came from Madara and Kabuto. Madara had to stay in cave hooked up to the gedo mazo after his fight with Hashirama thus never saw any of the top tier shinobi today. Kabuto said that there was no shinobi on his level anymore Nagato was already dead when he said that and he never saw BM Naruto or Current Obito fight which makes that statement pretty vague. So this is the first time when we get a clear indication about how Hashirama stacks up aganist the top tiers.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

kabuto strengthened his hold on edos because he didnt just have his own power but also oro's, karin's, anko's and the snake sage's. oro by himself probably doesnt have talismans as good as kabuto's. kabuto was able to have all edos respond to his commands without question. the last time someone actually overrode him was hanzo and that was before absorbing anko.
madara didnt break out. so by your logic hashirama > edo madara whos pretty much a fusion of both

. I definately think Hashi is stronger than Nagato

nope

Kabuto dosen't even have senju dna he was using Orochimaru's dna to control them

and his own DNA. and karins uzumaki life force. and nature. and different talismans to the ones oro has.

So that means Hashirama is much stronger than even a rinnegan user?

come to me when hashirama solos two villages in a weak state and controls dead bodies

 

[Naruto9001]

kabuto strengthened his hold on edos because he didnt just have his own power but also oro's, karin's, anko's and the snake sage's.

All of those people you just named still dont hold a candle to having Hashirama's dna. Tobirama also said that his body is almost completely made out of it so we know he has alot more of it than everyone else.

oro by himself probably doesnt have talismans as good as kabuto's.

Do you have any proof to back this statement up of Kabuto's tailsmans being better than Oro's?

kabuto was able to have all edos respond to his commands without question

Exactly and he dosen't even have Hashirama's dna but yet Orochimaru someone who does cant get one man to respond. That's beast.

come to me when hashirama solos two villages

Well we know a bijuudama is strong enough to bust atleast a village and he blocked that easily.

and controls dead bodies

What does controlling dead bodies have to do with him beating Hashi?

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama is the strongest, of course he is stronger than Nagato.

 

[Boston Rob]

You fail about everything what you said about Nagato

 

[Frikid]

indeed.

 

[VongolaX]

Hashrimama is god of all shinobi's, of course he is stronger than nagato

 

[vaibhav16591]

Now we all know Hashirama was able to break Orochimaru's restraint something that non of Kabuto's edos were able to do even Nagato who's the strongest edo that Kabuto was controlling and lets not forget Kabuto dosen't even have senju dna he was using Orochimaru's dna to control them and Hashirama's not even at full power! So that means Hashirama is much stronger than even a rinnegan user?

Bro... Hashirama's strength is not only the chakra but his knowledge of jutsus and seals , which is atleast believed to be on par with madara.... hashirama is the leader of the senju clan which is known to master all three forms of combat...... so being their leader he should be able to master them much better than others...... and as far as strength goes ..... nagato lacks speed and experience even itachi was able to trump him using this weaknesses hashirama will take no time in inserting a thorny wood in his A$$.....