ive debunked your garbage about 30 times already and i dont care if you leave. you are just another ignorant, biased, madara fanboy.
edo madaras full power is still PS just like at VOTE and hashirama is above that. in conclusion, since madaras new techs are weaker than PS, they cannot kill hashirama. simple.
No you didnt. look at the damage hashi sustained during the VOTE fight, if he got that badly damaged then how can he beat an edo madara who's obviously stronger than ems madara? Explain or stfu
your logic: edo madara=ems madara......................lol thats straight fanboying or hating, I cant tell which one because you seem to be in love with hashi but butthurt about madara
Hashirama beats Perfect Susanoo, and has just wasted a lot of chakra. Edo Madara takes advantage of his unlimited chakra and wins. Madara simply won't be stabbed by Hashirama because he won't tire, whereas Hashirama will eventually tire.
Whether he's above his full power or not is negated as the fact that Edo Madara has unlimited chakra and an undying body allows him to hypothetically... well, spam it every time it's taken down. And Hashirama's just not getting through that.
No you didnt. look at the damage hashi sustained during the VOTE fight, if he got that badly damaged then how can he beat an edo madara who's obviously stronger than ems madara
your logic: edo madara=ems madara......................lol thats straight fanboying or hating, I cant tell which one because you seem to be in love with hashi but butthurt about madara
madaras full power never changed with his powerups. only his stats when he isnt using perfect susano has changed. hashiramas full power surpasses madara therefore he is stronger than him. me, madara & kishimoto dont see the problem.
madaras full power never changed with his powerups. only his stats when he isnt using perfect susano has changed. hashiramas full power surpasses madara therefore he is stronger than him. me, madara & kishimoto dont see the problem.
Yugito's full power surpasses kakuzu/hidan's, they won too
Just because somebody can overpower doesn't mean they can win the fight, once hashi wastes his chakra taking down PS madara can then just spam meteors/mokuton. He can switch from eye to eye, and there's no manga proof stating that hashi knows about the rinnegan, so madara would DEFINITELY use it as his trump card, thereby killing hashi because he wont be able to analyze theese new attacks and regain chakra at the same time. Lets also not forget he can use 25 mokuton clones too (in which hashi cant tell the difference from the real one/the clones), meaning that hashi would have to deal with those as well as the rinnegan techniques...There's no denying it, edo madara wins because chakra isn't a factor, but for hashi it is.
Yugito's full power surpasses kakuzu/hidan's, they won too
Just because somebody can overpower doesn't mean they can win the fight, once hashi wastes his chakra taking down PS madara can then just spam meteors/mokuton. He can switch from eye to eye, and there's no manga proof stating that hashi knows about the rinnegan, so madara would DEFINITELY use it as his trump card, thereby killing hashi because he wont be able to analyze theese new attacks and regain chakra at the same time. Lets also not forget he can use 25 mokuton clones too (in which hashi cant tell the difference from the real one/the clones), meaning that hashi would have to deal with those as well as the rinnegan techniques...There's no denying it, edo madara wins because chakra isn't a factor, but for hashi it is.
yup chakra is a factor to someone that fought for a whole day against the strongest tailed beast and uchiha at VOTE and whose dna allowed someone to wield 13 sharingan. stop the nonsense.
its surprising that this outlasting tactic hasnt worked for any edo tensei in the series ever but its supposedly going to work here without a doubt 100% of the time despite not being an argument supported by canon.
@bold- no you are wrong. the strength of hashiramas nukes surpasses the strongest power that madara has. what do you not understand?
when has madara spammed meteors? i thought that i taught you better. he never did this in canon.
where are the feats to support madara using these imaginary rinnegan techs? 25 V2 susano mokuton clones cant compare to perfect susano.
you should be aware that perfect susano effortlessly obliterated the meteor and madaras mokuton along with a few mountains and this is a power that hashirama surpasses.
yup chakra is a factor to someone that fought for a whole day against the strongest tailed beast and uchiha at VOTE and whose dna allowed someone to wield 13 sharingan. stop the nonsense.
its surprising that this outlasting tactic hasnt worked for any edo tensei in the series ever but its supposedly going to work here without a doubt 100% of the time despite not being an argument supported by canon.
@bold- no you are wrong. the strength of hashiramas nukes surpasses the strongest power that madara has. what do you not understand?
when has madara spammed meteors? i thought that i taught you better. he never did this in canon.
where are the feats to support madara using these imaginary rinnegan techs? 25 V2 susano mokuton clones cant compare to perfect susano.
you should be aware that perfect susano effortlessly obliterated the meteor and madaras mokuton along with a few mountains and this is a power that hashirama surpasses.
Woah woah woah what the f*** did i just read!? what nukes does hashirama possess? I would LOVE to know...For all we know hashi could've used mokuton to supress his PS. I now realize that youre a fanboy because you tell me to bring canon evidence when clearly you're delusional enough to think hashi has ANY nukes
Madara/Hashi fought for a whole day, big whoop madara can fight for weeks now that he has unlimited chakra, theres nothing holding him back. The other edo's got blitzed because they're significantly weaker than madara, hes still around so this point is invalid anyways. Hashi barely survived that VOTE fight yet you claim he can still beat madara...after hashi wastes his chakra on PS (because edo tensei wont cancel, forcing madara to stop), how is he going to survive multiple meteors (yes he can call upon more than two, whats stopping him from doing so? please tell me).
He didnt bring another one because he didnt need to...you make it seem as though its illogical for him to grab another one. If you believe this to be true then give me an explanation instead of "hes only been shown to use 2 meteors" because theres absolutely no reason why he cant whip out susanoo again and do the same thing.
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BOLD: his V2 mokuton clones will be his trump card, he will use it after PS because hashi already knows about this technique..you think that just because hashi beats PS he wins the fight...that's an incredible fail because like the original fight, madara wont be exhausted after using his PS but hashi will be after fighting it, as ive already proven to you multiple times but you seem to ignore it for some reason
Woah woah woah what the f*** did i just read!? what nukes does hashirama possess? I would LOVE to know...For all we know hashi could've used mokuton to supress his PS. I now realize that youre a fanboy because you tell me to bring canon evidence when clearly you're delusional enough to think hashi has ANY nukes
Madara/Hashi fought for a whole day, big whoop madara can fight for weeks now that he has unlimited chakra, theres nothing holding him back. The other edo's got blitzed because they're significantly weaker than madara, hes still around so this point is invalid anyways. Hashi barely survived that VOTE fight yet you claim he can still beat madara...after hashi wastes his chakra on PS (because edo tensei wont cancel, forcing madara to stop), how is he going to survive multiple meteors (yes he can call upon more than two, whats stopping him from doing so? please tell me).
He didnt bring another one because he didnt need to...you make it seem as though its illogical for him to grab another one. If you believe this to be true then give me an explanation instead of "hes only been shown to use 2 meteors" because theres absolutely no reason why he cant whip out susanoo again and do the same thing.
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BOLD: his V2 mokuton clones will be his trump card, he will use it after PS because hashi already knows about this technique..you think that just because hashi beats PS he wins the fight...that's an incredible fail because like the original fight, madara wont be exhausted after using his PS but hashi will be after fighting it, as ive already proven to you multiple times but you seem to ignore it for some reason
hashirama is only called a god of shinobi. doesnt mean he actually is one or that its referring to raw power. he could just be godlike in his great wisdom and nobility. anyway obito and madara still win with juubi on their side
Hehehe well assuming thats real then, I cant wait to see that fight. Because if hashi dominates madara i will admit that i could be wrong and that hashi would stand a chance, however if hashi comes from that battle almost defeated you have to admit that i was right. Its only fair