[Spoilers] The Uchiha should've helped with the Kyuubi attack

[WhistleBlower]

:hey: First of , i would like to apologise if this is in the wrong section as i wasn't which section this would go in. U_U

I say, the Uchiha should've helped with the Kyuubi attack that occurred during the reign of Yondaime Hokage, Minato. I know your thinking i'm crazy but i've got a reasonable reason.


Killing Fugaku would have solved nothing. It would have made things much much worse if anything. The Uchiha would have taken action immediately and started the civil war/coup, all guns blazing. Speaking of respect, I have none left for Hiruzen now. Right now, it just absolutely begs the question, why on earth didn’t the Uchiha help with the Kyuubi attack during the 4th’s reign? I really wanna know :silly: . It would have done them a whole world of good if they’d just helped. :devil:

If they just stood back out of sheer spite and schadenfreude for the years of perceived persecution then I’d be inclined to agree with Tobirama and say they deserved what they got (excluding the children of course- I dunno why we have to qualify that we’re excluding the children in this debate, that should be implicit). If Itachi didn’t kill off the entire clan, they would have to fight the entire village on their own, and whether they got the upper hand somehow or not, they’d probably have been killed by other interrupting village forces. :scorps: :izuna:

They literally just sat there on their lazy butts , and waited to be eliminated xd

I’m aware that that’s wrong, based on the translation you’re using. I’m also aware that the vast majority isn’t enough for you to consider “all” of them bad. For one, Tobirama, Danzou, Itachi, and Shisui always said “most” or “some”. This means that not only were there some who abstained from the coup, but they (most likely) knew who they were. :shrug:

 

[Ōkami]

they were to busy having a date night to help

 

[9 tails uzumaki]

Yup I agree with thisU_U

 

[naruto legend]

You have horrible gramar bro you should realy work on it before posting

 

[ballerjordan]

they were to busy cutting themselves aha xD

 

[SageOfTheSixPathz]

You have horrible gramar bro you should realy work on it before posting

grammar* and your saying he has horrible grammar? lmao!

 

[Kages]

:hey: First of , i would like to apologise if this is in the wrong section as i wasn't which section this would go in. U_U

I say, the Uchiha should've helped with the Kyuubi attack that occurred during the reign of Yondaime Hokage, Minato. I know your thinking i'm crazy but i've got a reasonable reason.


Killing Fugaku would have solved nothing. It would have made things much much worse if anything. The Uchiha would have taken action immediately and started the civil war/coup, all guns blazing. Speaking of respect, I have none left for Hiruzen now. Right now, it just absolutely begs the question, why on earth didn’t the Uchiha help with the Kyuubi attack during the 4th’s reign? I really wanna know :silly: . It would have done them a whole world of good if they’d just helped. :devil:

If they just stood back out of sheer spite and schadenfreude for the years of perceived persecution then I’d be inclined to agree with Tobirama and say they deserved what they got (excluding the children of course- I dunno why we have to qualify that we’re excluding the children in this debate, that should be implicit). If Itachi didn’t kill off the entire clan, they would have to fight the entire village on their own, and whether they got the upper hand somehow or not, they’d probably have been killed by other interrupting village forces. :scorps: :izuna:

They literally just sat there on their lazy butts , and waited to be eliminated xd

I’m aware that that’s wrong, based on the translation you’re using. I’m also aware that the vast majority isn’t enough for you to consider “all” of them bad. For one, Tobirama, Danzou, Itachi, and Shisui always said “most” or “some”. This means that not only were there some who abstained from the coup, but they (most likely) knew who they were. :shrug:

Minato and Kushina didn't let Hiruzen interfere because of the barrier. He could have helped, not his fault


OT- They were like at a meeting >.>

 

[ballerjordan]

ahahaha no kidding yo, whatta dumb azz nigga

 

[RockLee the Green Beast]

95% of Uchiha's born are fodder.

Name one Uchiha who's worth mentioning that did not have MS.

Exactly, Bitch.

 

[WhistleBlower]

You have horrible gramar bro you should realy work on it before posting

Sir, could outline one place, where i my grammar is wrong please?

 

[Narutohokage7]

they were to busy having a date night to help

Well, you say dating. Its really just dirty dirty swinging.

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

It's not like if it was planned. They were all shocked by the Nine-Tails apparition. Maybe it was an attack by another village who got their hands on the Nine-Tails, they didn't know no shit about what was happening. I think they prefer defending the leaf village which they build with the Senju instead of being invaded by the enemies. However, if Tobi organised a plot with the uchiha, things would be different in that case. But they refused when Madara tryed to rebel over the Senju's so I doubt they would participate with Tobi who is 100x less trust worthy than Madara who was their leader.

 

[Regulus]

grammar* and your saying he has horrible grammar? lmao!

Technically his grammar is fine, it is his spelling that needs work.

OT: From the Uchiha point of view, it would have been better in the long run to attack the village at the time. However, they might not of had plans for a coup at the time. Also, they would not know what was happening when the Kurama attacked. However from the village point of view it was better they did not attack. That would have made a unfortunate situation worse. It would*haveof also further persecuted them when they were already outcasts of the village

 

[RetarbAlert]

grammar* and your saying he has horrible grammar? lmao!

You're* and you're laughing at his grammar?

 

[Naru2GT]

Who cares about grammar/spelling, this is not composition class.

I agree uchiha would have help to make themselves look good or at least show up in the scene.

 

[ItachiStyle]

For all we know they were in on it, and planned to take over after the village leadership was killed.

There is room to argue about the Uchiha being treated a little harshly, but at the end of the day everyone in the village respected (or at least feared) the genius of their clan, and they got the protection and peace from the village being created. What did they lose? They had to live in a "ghetto" (a very nice looking one, really just a different district of the village), and the village was a bit suss about letting one of them become Hokage. They got to act as the police force though, and clearly many Uchiha had chances to excel in the village. Remember when Sasuke is taken to the academy by his father? Nobody treats him as an outsider, everyone loves the guy... "he's so amazing!", etc. Sasuke was the popular kid. He receives no discrimination, he gets top grades, and the villagers by and large love him (even if a few of the adults are very concerned about the clan). The teacher has nothing but praise for Itachi, and both the objective Uchiha's (Itachi and Shi Sui) seem to have decided their clan was sacrificing the village's interests for petty reasons.

To add to this:
- The village elders (non-Uchiha ones) had good cause to be worried about the Uchiha apparently, as many of them went crazy, of whom Madara was but one. We hear the same not only from Tobirama, but Itachi, who among other things explains the origin of Izanami (to stop Uchiha who became power mad with Izanagi).
- We don't know that any Uchiha were overlooked as Hokage either. It seems like Hashi was legitimately more powerful (as well as more popular) with the villagers. No Uchiha we know of during Tobirama's reign stand out as stronger as far as we know, and the same holds true of Hiruzen (mainly because we know so little about him). There were other ninja who stand out as great Hokage candidates, like the Sannin and Minato. For all we know Itachi and Shi sui would have been chosen as Hokage's if they had stayed, so maybe if the Uchiha had been patient they'd have gotten what they wanted anyway. Minato even takes an Uchiha into his team, to mentor him, and as we all know the students of a Hokage often end up being Hokage themselves, so I still fail to see the justification for a coup. Their complaints amount to "we never got a Hokage" (out of what, 3 goes at the time?), and "we had to live in a somewhat isolated district". Doesn't the majority count at all? Clearly the majority were very happy with the 5 Hokage chosen.

 

[yoshimitsu]

They had no knowledge of the attack and thus haven't prepared anything whatsoever. Even if they did partake, why would the Kyuubi not attack the Uchiha as well? It's not like one of them even had the MS. If they did try, most likely it would be a 3 way battle and even if they did win, they wouldn't actually maintain the village since everyone would be pissed off at them.

 

[ItachiStyle]

Chapter 620 establishes very clearly that the 1st and 2nd Hokage were almost certainly legit choices for Hokage, both seem to be the strongest in their village at the time they were chosen (even without factoring in leadership, popularity, other things). Minato seems to have a legit case too, we know of no Uchiha in the village at the time who was stronger (and when he was appointed Shi Sui wouldn't have been old enough). All the Uchiha were wiped out by the time Tsunade is chosen (or too young and weak to be considered). So at most they could be grumpy about 1 Hokage choice (Hiruzen), and it remains to be seen how reasonable their annoyance is at his selection.